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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 2, 2023
  • #58,241
shmmeee said:
Sorry. If you’re PM you should not be consuming YouTube videos.
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I always remember it being said that Maggie Thatcher survived on 4 hours sleep a night because she was getting on with the job. Boris was surviving on 4 hours because he was sitting up in bed watching YouTube until the early hours. Like a petulant child.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2023
  • #58,242
skybluetony176 said:
I always remember it being said that Maggie Thatcher survived on 4 hours sleep a night because she was getting on with the job. Boris was surviving on 4 hours because he was sitting up in bed watching YouTube until the early hours. Like a petulant child.
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I'm just surprised it wasn't porn.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 2, 2023
  • #58,243
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I'm just surprised it wasn't porn.
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Thatcher or Johnson ? Johnson probably knocked one out after burning himself with his hairdryer
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 3, 2023
  • #58,244
Anyway internally how does a relustance or advice to shift our doing deals the Chinese or buy from them tie itself in with petrodollars?
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 8, 2023
  • #58,245
Liam Kelly has entered the chat. I remember Robins saying something at the time hinting there were anti-vaxxers in the squad.

 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #58,246
Only had a brief glance but the research sited by that article doesn’t actually show what the article seems to think it shows does it?

Don’t normally take my medical advice from footballers and don’t think I’ll start now
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #58,247
chiefdave said:
Only had a brief glance but the research sited by that article doesn’t actually show what the article seems to think it shows does it?

Don’t normally take my medical advice from footballers and don’t think I’ll start now
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That’s where I am
If you don’t trust the medical profession for medical needs then what do you?
If you don’t trust a climate scientist for climate science who do you trust?
we need critical thinking a levels
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #58,248
I dunno how the risk profile compares to other vaccines, I guess not dissimilar.

155m vaccines administered in the UK as of last week. Not sure how many were the AZ one but it'll be a decent number. Given the numbers the adverse events seem very low?
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #58,249
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s where I am
If you don’t trust the medical profession for medical needs then what do you?
If you don’t trust a climate scientist for climate science who do you trust?
we need critical thinking a levels
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This is the way. Almost any topic: trade, climate science, medicine is at a level it’s very hard to fully understand without being steeped in the literature and arguments. Science is full of counter intuitive findings, in fact that’s the entire point of the process.

I think there’s been a massive breakdown of trust in institutions that spread to any and all intellectual authority. I noticed there was a shift where if I spoke about something I obviously knew a lot about people would defer, then it stopped and I got random internet garbage back (even as a teacher!).

I’m not sure how you put that genie back in the bottle. But it’s interesting that Asian countries do so well at for example pandemic response and education because of a deference to authority and a belief they probably know what they’re doing.

You see it all over: parents, teachers, police, scientists, politicians, all with examples of abuse of power/mistakes leading to lack of trust wide scale. I can’t help but feel our social and traditional media has a large amount of blame. We just didn’t know every little mistake in real time before. And it makes us think the present is uniquely useless and corrupt.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #58,250
I had one of the AZ ones - still alive just
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #58,251
fernandopartridge said:
I dunno how the risk profile compares to other vaccines, I guess not dissimilar.

155m vaccines administered in the UK as of last week. Not sure how many were the AZ one but it'll be a decent number. Given the numbers the adverse events seem very low?
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From what I’ve seen the headline is based on what someone non-medical and involved in the case has claimed, so completely misleading.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #58,252
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s where I am
If you don’t trust the medical profession for medical needs then what do you?
If you don’t trust a climate scientist for climate science who do you trust?
we need critical thinking a levels
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My mate thinks that ex nurse with a face full of Botox is the authority on vaccines. The one who got on stage at a protest and with no sense of irony (obviously keeping a straight face, with that much Botox in your system it’s impossible not to) and said that the vaccine was poison, don’t inject yourself self with poison. I pointed out to him that if someone who willingly allows elements of botulism to be injected in their face is claiming don’t get injected with poison the fact that they’re a crank is staring you right in her face. He then continued to tell me that you don’t know what’s in it, while snorting a line of coke which ironically he has no idea what’s in it. Okay the last part has a little poetic license in it but he is, always has been and continues to be a habitual drug user including coke, acid and E’s. Can’t have a drink out without doing at least one line.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #58,253
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s where I am
If you don’t trust the medical profession for medical needs then what do you?
If you don’t trust a climate scientist for climate science who do you trust?
we need critical thinking a levels
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If you don’t trust politicians on political….

oh
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #58,254
You see it on here. Present peer reviewed papers and they’re ignored or dismissed for being too complicated. Remember that there was a huge analysis of 25-30 million vaccine jabs that showed there was a statistically significant increase in risk of cardiac events from the jab. The problem was this increase was even greater from the virus itself. Still, also ignored by some.

It takes painstaking effort to generate this technology and the associated data. So really is frustrating to see idiots on the internet with virtually zero understanding write it off as a conspiracy.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #58,255
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You see it on here. Present peer reviewed papers and they’re ignored or dismissed for being too complicated. Remember that there was a huge analysis of 25-30 million vaccine jabs that showed there was a statistically significant increase in risk of cardiac events from the jab. The problem was this increase was even greater from the virus itself. Still, also ignored by some.

It takes painstaking effort to generate this technology and the associated data. So really is frustrating to see idiots on the internet with virtually zero understanding write it off as a conspiracy.
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Normally it wouldn’t bother me. Knowing those actually acting on the data would be smart and responsible enough to do to. Now it seems just as likely the PM believe in the illuminati as anyone else.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #58,256
shmmeee said:
Liam Kelly has entered the chat. I remember Robins saying something at the time hinting there were anti-vaxxers in the squad.

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I mean the AZ jab i dont blame people for not being a fan. It was soon binned off after the first round wasnt it?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,257


China’s hospitals have been flooded with cases of respiratory illnesses and sick children complaining of pneumonia-like symptoms, leading to increased scrutiny from the World Health Organisation (WHO).

A Beijing children’s hospital told state media CCTV that at least 7,000 patients were being admitted daily to the institution, far exceeding its capacity.

Last week, the largest paediatric hospital in nearby Tianjin reportedly received more than 13,000 children at its outpatient and emergency departments.

Liaoning province, about 690km northeast of the capital, is also grappling with high case numbers.

The increasing number of cases prompted the WHO on Wednesday to issue a formal request for disease data on the respiratory illnesses and reported clusters of pneumonia in children.
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wingy

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,258
chiefdave said:
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Not sure I'd be racing for the vaccine as this is perfectly treatable if it's the regular,or maybe the vaccines okay as it's about a fair while.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,259
Imagine it happens again


The world should fucking shun China completely
 

TomRad85

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,260
China having another totally normal one then.

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SBT

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,261
NULL AND VOID
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,262
chiefdave said:
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Where's it from, the publisher?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,263
Those damn bats again
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,264
wingy said:
Where's it from, the publisher?
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Picked it up on my Apple News feed but the original article is from the Independent
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,265
Randomly came across a Chinese guy on Twitter going mad about this and how it’s another pandemic. But then his feed was full of zero covid types still living in tents so take that for what you will.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,266
Thought this might be of interest. Now this guy has had some, let’s say, non mainstream/unconventional views. I ignore that and was just surprised/shocked at the data


Not sure if Campbell is suggesting these issues are caused but the vaccine or not. I’ve personally* always believed that Covid itself seems to be able to target peoples weak spots (whether that be respiratory, heart etc) and that peoples immune systems have been damaged badly by the virus. Pretty scary either way

Happy Sunday (sorry)

*im no doc or scientist obviously but this is based on personal experience and anecdotal evidence from people I know.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,267
shmmeee said:
Randomly came across a Chinese guy on Twitter
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Dark times.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,268
Nick said:
Dark times.
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They’re just more feminine you know…
 

TomRad85

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,269
shmmeee said:
They’re just more feminine you know…
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More androgynous. East Asian trans are definitely more convincing/sexually confusing.
If the dick is tucked away, it ain't gay is advice to live by.

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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,270
TomRad85 said:
More androgynous. East Asian trans are definitely more convincing/sexually confusing.
If the dick is tucked away, it ain't gay is advice to live by.

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…unless you suck them off
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,271
I feel like I’ve awakened something on the right of SBT here…
 
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TomRad85

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,272
CCFCSteve said:
…unless you suck them off
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This would be the very opposite of keeping it tucked away but yes to confirm, sucking even a small one would be at least a bit gay.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,273
shmmeee said:
Randomly came across a Chinese guy on Twitter going mad about this and how it’s another pandemic. But then his feed was full of zero covid types still living in tents so take that for what you will.
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Oops I said
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,274
If you’ve paid for it and have landed with a big (or small) surprise, you may as well get your money’s worth.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 26, 2023
  • #58,275
shmmeee said:
Randomly came across a Chinese guy on Twitter going mad about this and how it’s another pandemic. But then his feed was full of zero covid types still living in tents so take that for what you will.
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Watch they don't infiltrate you?
 
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