Otis
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At least wait for the science. Seems a lot of scientists are saying they think it's too early now.
At least wait for the science. Seems a lot of scientists are saying they think it's too early now.I don't think an ongoing legal obligation to self-isolate is reasonable for too much longer and agree that it should be dropped at some point in time. I'd probably wait until the spring though.
There absolutely has to be a conversation about what living with covid means long term but given the comments from SAGE etc that conversation clearly hasn't taken place and Johnson is just trying to distract from the mess he's in.I don't think an ongoing legal obligation to self-isolate is reasonable for too much longer and agree that it should be dropped at some point in time. I'd probably wait until the spring though.
I don't think an ongoing legal obligation to self-isolate is reasonable for too much longer and agree that it should be dropped at some point in time. I'd probably wait until the spring though.
Also if this is the level we are settling on as living with covid we're averaging over 200 deaths a day, that equates to well over 70K deaths a year which would take it above heart disease and dementia as the biggest killers in the UK. Don't we therefore then need a huge capacity increase in the NHS to accolade this?
I don't think an ongoing legal obligation to self-isolate is reasonable for too much longer and agree that it should be dropped at some point in time. I'd probably wait until the spring though.
...but (dons foil hat) I'm still a little concerned that the Chinese appear to be the only nation not prepared to live with it and continue to pursue a zero covid approach.....its almost like they know something we don't....
At least wait for the science. Seems a lot of scientists are saying they think it's too early now.
There absolutely has to be a conversation about what living with covid means long term but given the comments from SAGE etc that conversation clearly hasn't taken place and Johnson is just trying to distract from the mess he's in.
IMO we need to look at sick pay and the attitude we have in general, not just with covid, of forcing people into work who are sick who then spread whatever they've got around. Early on in the pandemic the government were talking that post-covid we'd use the newly created testing capacity for things like flu (actual flu, not man flu) and encourage people with other contagious diseases to stay at home but that seems to have completely dropped off the radar.
Also if this is the level we are settling on as living with covid we're averaging over 200 deaths a day, that equates to well over 70K deaths a year which would take it above heart disease and dementia as the biggest killers in the UK. Don't we therefore then need a huge capacity increase in the NHS to accolade this?
Girlfriend confirmed as being positive today after a couple of LF tests; pretty sure I am positive as well.
Her symptoms are just a heavy cold.
Cheers, mate, luckily i'm still testing negative.That's shit mate. Hopefully just mild and out the other side asap.
Cheers, mate, luckily i'm still testing negative.
We were supposed to be off to New York this upcoming Sunday; our first attempt at going in March 2020 got cancelled as well.
We've already cancelled it, hotel was refundable up until this Friday and managed to get credit for the flights, so will try again in September! Originally her re-test to leave isolation was for next Monday but got brought forward to this Saturday with the result coming through on Sunday - she has to do a PCR test, which I think would be more likely to still test positive.She might be clear by then, my Daughter was testing clear after6 days.
Cheers, mate, luckily i'm still testing negative.
We were supposed to be off to New York this upcoming Sunday; our first attempt at going in March 2020 got cancelled as well.
We've already cancelled it, hotel was refundable up until this Friday and managed to get credit for the flights, so will try again in September! Originally her re-test to leave isolation was for next Monday but got brought forward to this Saturday with the result coming through on Sunday - she has to do a PCR test, which I think would be more likely to still test positive.
Hope she is ok mate and you don't get it.Girlfriend confirmed as being positive today after a couple of LF tests; pretty sure I am positive as well.
Her symptoms are just a heavy cold.
It’s appearing to be that way now. We won’t know the full impact of the pandemic for many years and in this post truth world we probably won’t ever agree. It’s clear that long covid is having a debilitating effect on many many people who have had covid and any action to reduce transmission is sensibleBig protests across France & the Netherlands at the weekend against the draconian (& yet totally ineffective) covid passes.......all power to them!
I read something from the express I think over the weekend about a Danish report) study which I think expressed this but can't remember for sure however there was a very large one from the states possibly 11M people studied and the prevelance was higher among those who'd had it .It’s appearing to be that way now. We won’t know the full impact of the pandemic for many years and in this post truth world we probably won’t ever agree. It’s clear that long covid is having a debilitating effect on many many people who have had covid and any action to reduce transmission is sensible
It’s appearing to be that way now. We won’t know the full impact of the pandemic for many years and in this post truth world we probably won’t ever agree. It’s clear that long covid is having a debilitating effect on many many people who have had covid and any action to reduce transmission is sensible
Just got it for first time, feels like I’ve run 5 marathons in a daycan see how it could be dangerous for someone with underlying conditions
Same here... took two years to get me.Just got it for first time, feels like I’ve run 5 marathons in a daycan see how it could be dangerous for someone with underlying conditions
Just like a cold apparently! Hopefully you have a speedy recovery
I’m still testing negative and girlfriend has started shouting again, so seems to be on the mend. It’s really strange that we’ve carried on as normal yet I don’t seem to have caught it.
I’ve had an on and off sore throat and a general feeling of being under the weather but this was before she tested positive (she had symptoms like a really bad heavy cold); personally I reckon I could have had it too or because I had my 3rd vaccine at the end of December it couldn’t get through properly.As far as you know, anyway. If 1 in 3 cases are asymptomatic the true number of infections will be staggering
Another one bites the dust?Queen’s got it!
She’ll be fine. It’s just the sniffles. Besides there’s always horse wormer according to Britain’s eminent scientist Laurence Fox.Another one bites the dust?
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the B/Yamagata lineage has not been isolated from April 2020 to August 2021, suggesting that this influenza lineage may have become extinct
Face nappies don't work though.Saw this being discussed earlier today and thought it was interesting so looked it up and the study does seem to back up the claims. Increased mask wearing has led to one of the major strains of flu disappearing.
Influenza lineage extinction during the COVID-19 pandemic? - Nature Reviews Microbiology
The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic has seen a notable global reduction in influenza cases of both influenza A and B viruses. In particular, the B/Yamagata lineage has not been isolated from April 2020 to August 2021, suggesting that this influenza lineage may have become extinct, which may provide...www.nature.com
Face nappies don't work though.
FFP2 and higher are most effective, hardly anyone in the UK seems to wear them.Out of interest why do you think Scotland and Wales have had very little differences in COVID stats vs the U.K. despite a more stringent approach in that aspect
FFP2 and higher are most effective, hardly anyone in the UK seems to wear them.
No idea but hospital staff wear them to treat covid positive patients with minimal infections.Has that actually translating into improved reductions in transmission in countries in Europe who mandate them?
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