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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,506
baldy said:
After hounding those who didn’t want them for ages….horrible tactics
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That hounding might well have saved the lives of some workers who hadn’t planned to get jabbed and this gave them the kick up the arse needed

I’m glad they’re not enforcing the rule though. We can’t afford to lose the numbers of workers involved
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,507
Evo1883 said:
Fantastic news NHS staff and care home workers will be keeping their jobs..
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It’s an awful backtrack that’s:
Clinically bad
Bad for patients
Confusing for staff
Undermining of the rule of law
Makes nhs leadership look stupid

But hey his backbenchers will be happy ffs
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,508
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s an awful backtrack that’s:
Clinically bad
Bad for patients
Confusing for staff
Undermining of the rule of law
Makes nhs leadership look stupid

But hey his backbenchers will be happy ffs
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Don't agree , correct decision
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,509
Evo1883 said:
Don't agree , correct decision
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Why does it only apply to one vaccine and not others?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,510
Evo1883 said:
Don't agree , correct decision
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Got this from a senior nhs manager but we can agree to disagree

I think it was the wrong decision initially and it exacerbates things to change their mind but that’s just for me personally
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,511
It is the wrong decision, but the government can't afford to potentially lose staff.

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baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,512
stupot07 said:
It is the wrong decision, but the government can't afford to potentially lose staff.

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Why‘s it the wrong decision? Why should people get a jab they don’t want for something that’s not killing people?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,513
baldy said:
Why‘s it the wrong decision? Why should people get a jab if they don’t want for something that’s not killing people?
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See the reasons above
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,514
baldy said:
Why‘s it the wrong decision? Why should people get a jab they don’t want for something that’s not killing people?
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Same reason they have to get all the other jabs: because they work in healthcare around vulnerable people.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,515
Have to be honest , when i was in hospital last week it never once crossed my mind about the staffs vaccination status ..
The nurse who took my bloods and another that did an ECG both told me in chatting they found it disgusting and didn't agree with it .. hopefully these fantastic people get to stay in work as they are already , vaccinated or not ..they do a great job and we need them
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,516
baldy said:
Why‘s it the wrong decision? Why should people get a jab they don’t want for something that’s not killing people?
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Apart from the fact it is killing people.

Why should people get jabs they don't want like MMR, BCG, polio, tetanus, HPV etc which are killing less people than Covid?

Oh yeah, because the reason they're not killing as many people is because we're making sure people are vaccinated against them.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,517
Evo1883 said:
Have to be honest , when i was in hospital last week it never once crossed my mind about the staffs vaccination status ..
The nurse who took my bloods and another that did an ECG both told me in chatting they found it disgusting and didn't agree with it .. hopefully these fantastic people get to stay in work as they are already , vaccinated or not ..they do a great job and we need them
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When you go to parents day does it cross your mind to check the teachers' DBS status? Or does it not cross your mind cos you expect the school will have done it for you as a duty of care to ensure their safety?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,518
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
When you go to parents day does it cross your mind to check the teachers' DBS status? Or does it not cross your mind cos you expect the school will have done it for you as a duty of care to ensure their safety?
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Never tbh , either way , it looks as though sanity will prevail .. as much as a few on here may not like it .

You are always free to ask for their vaccination status and then decline their care if it doesn't fit your opinion

I reckon in an emergency , it wouldn't even cross your mind
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,519
Evo1883 said:
Never tbh , either way , it looks as though sanity will prevail .. as much as a few on here may not like it .

You are always free to ask for their vaccination status and then decline their care if it doesn't fit your opinion

I reckon in an emergency , it wouldn't even cross your mind
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Of course it wouldn't cross my mind in an emergency. In an absolute emergency I wouldn't care if the person walking past had any medical or first aid training at all. I'd just want someone to help.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,520
stupot07 said:
It is the wrong decision, but the government can't afford to potentially lose staff.

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It is the right decision then based on the balance of issues
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,521
fernandopartridge said:
It is the right decision then based on the balance of issues
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It is the lesser of two evils.

Ideally you'd want them vaccinated, but the danger to patients of all ailments from a massive reduction in doctors/nurses is far higher.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,522
Shows how delicately balanced the NHS is. I think I read somewhere that the NHS employs 1.4 million people and it was going to collapse if 80000 suddenly lost their job.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,523
skybluetony176 said:
Shows how delicately balanced the NHS is. I think I read somewhere that the NHS employs 1.4 million people and it was going to collapse if 80000 suddenly lost their job.
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Well the ward I was in last weekend had 1 nurse dealing with 51 patients for some 5 or 6 hours
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,524
I hadn't really heard of/seen much of Lozza Fox before but he's a proper weird guy.
 
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baldy

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  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,525
shmmeee said:
Same reason they have to get all the other jabs: because they work in healthcare around vulnerable people.
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I work in the NHS & I've never once been forced or coerced into taking any other jab
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,526
Evo1883 said:
Well the ward I was in last weekend had 1 nurse dealing with 51 patients for some 5 or 6 hours
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My point exactly. Scandalous. The patients deserve better and so do the front line staff.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,527
baldy said:
I work in the NHS & I've never once been forced or coerced into taking any other jab
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How many pandemics have you worked through?

If you worked with people vulnerable to a disease you’d have needed vaccinations. Now it’s a pandemic everyone’s vulnerable.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,528
Evo1883 said:
Don't agree , correct decision
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It's a sad state of affairs when tens of thousands of people entrusted with safeguarding the health of others have raised the middle finger to doing something that would enhance it. But it's simply too many people collectivising their selfishness and stupidity
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 31, 2022
  • #57,529
shmmeee said:
How many pandemics have you worked through?

If you worked with people vulnerable to a disease you’d have needed vaccinations. Now it’s a pandemic everyone’s vulnerable.
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None as he's lying again
 
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Frostie

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,530
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,531
Johnson and his cronies really are detestable scumbags. It’s a shocking state of affairs that he’s still in a job.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,532
That it either can't be or won't be recovered is unbelievable and would result in a sacking for even junior management. The fact that that inability to recover was probably deliberate so their mate's could keep the cash just makes your blood boil.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,533
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That it either can't be or won't be recovered is unbelievable and would result in a sacking for even junior management. The fact that that inability to recover was probably deliberate so their mate's could keep the cash just makes your blood boil.
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The paying inflated prices one is bad on two fronts, bad enough that they were dishing out contracts to their mates but even if you justify that as an emergency situation the pandemic planning exercise they did a few years ago highlight a lack of PPE and should therefore have been sorted at that point rather than waiting until prices went through the roof.
 

baldy

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,534
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's a sad state of affairs when tens of thousands of people entrusted with safeguarding the health of others have raised the middle finger to doing something that would enhance it. But it's simply too many people collectivising their selfishness and stupidity
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It‘s their basic human rights not to have it though for whatever reason they chose - funny how the mainstream media hardly mentioned the ending of the mandates either - hope all the careworkers get their jobs back too
Dunno why people have to constantly interfere & stick their beak into what other people are choosing
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,535
baldy said:
It‘s their basic human rights not to have it though for whatever reason they chose - funny how the mainstream media hardly mentioned the ending of the mandates either - hope all the careworkers get their jobs back too
Dunno why people have to constantly interfere & stick their beak into what other people are choosing
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Got to be honest, I’m not seeing “infect people” in the list of human rights. But why do you care about human rights anyway? Bunch of dogooders sticking their beak in, no?

Also not sure how mainstream you’re looking for but it was headline news of R4 the last couple of days.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,536
baldy said:
It‘s their basic human rights not to have it though for whatever reason they chose - funny how the mainstream media hardly mentioned the ending of the mandates either - hope all the careworkers get their jobs back too
Dunno why people have to constantly interfere & stick their beak into what other people are choosing
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The most basic human right is the right to life. If you have people who are the most vulnerable in your care and your TikTok science beliefs mean you won’t take a jab to increase their safety it doesn’t say much.

Simply too many people were being selfish to be dismissed.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,537
Imagine kicking off about NHS staff (who by the way are there to care for us, save our lives, look after our loved ones) not being sacked for personal choice

Some strange people on here.

If i had a cardiac i couldnt give 2 fucks if the person attempting to save my life had a vaccine, or was into shagging cats, or shoplifted some cheese.

Fuck me, unreal what im seeing here
 
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JAM See

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,538
Saddlebrains said:
Imagine kicking off about NHS staff (who by the way are there to care for us, save our lives, look after our loved ones) not being sacked for personal choice

Some strange people on here.

If i had a cardiac i couldnt give 2 fucks if the person attempting to save my life had a vaccine, or was into shagging cats, or shoplifted some cheese.

Fuck me, unreal what im seeing here
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I'd be upset if my 85 year old Mother in Law went in for for her 6 monthly check up for hers eyes and came home with the virus.
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,539
Saddlebrains said:
Imagine kicking off about NHS staff (who by the way are there to care for us, save our lives, look after our loved ones) not being sacked for personal choice

Some strange people on here.

If i had a cardiac i couldnt give 2 fucks if the person attempting to save my life had a vaccine, or was into shagging cats, or shoplifted some cheese.

Fuck me, unreal what im seeing here
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Unless of course the unvaccinated person had covid and then gave you a stronger dose of it than if they had been vaccinated which caused you to die

If you become a medical professional you should by definition do everything to help the people you treat and being vaccinated against covid is definitely one of those things (as is vaccination against other diseases)

If someone personally choose to ignore the advice and research of their peers then you probably don't want to be medically treated by them
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #57,540
baldy said:
It‘s their basic human rights not to have it though for whatever reason they chose - funny how the mainstream media hardly mentioned the ending of the mandates either - hope all the careworkers get their jobs back too
Dunno why people have to constantly interfere & stick their beak into what other people are choosing
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‘The mainstream media’ - spoken like a true sheep.
 
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