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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,156
Sick Boy said:
Clearly your main priority is making yourself feel better, so best to leave it.
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As opposed to being petrified about something that there is about 0.03% chance of killing me?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,157
Nick said:
As opposed to being petrified about something that there is about 0.03% chance of killing me?
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There’s a middle ground between these positions. Personally still think if you’re not ill you shouldn’t be staying away from school or work unless you’re in a care home or the NHS.
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,158
I dont see why it cant just be

Normal life can crack on. If you feel ill test and stay away from people.

If you want to take a test before attending a concert, or football game etc, do it. Not mandatory.

We have to live with this
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,159
Nick said:
As opposed to being petrified about something that there is about 0.03% chance of killing me?
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Point proven, thanks.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,160
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There’s a middle ground between these positions. Personally still think if you’re not ill you shouldn’t be staying away from school or work unless you’re in a care home or the NHS.
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Big risk to unvaccinated people coming into contact especially if they are also vulnerable
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,161
Sky Blue Pete said:
Big risk to unvaccinated people coming into contact especially if they are also vulnerable
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Pete, if they have done that out of choice then I’m sorry but it’s never going to end. If they are vulnerable they’ll have been vaxxed to the hilt.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,162
For most people surely we are about 95% back to normal other than I guess the WFH thing which does need to end. What else is actually a problem now?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,163
Saddlebrains said:
I dont see why it cant just be

Normal life can crack on. If you feel ill test and stay away from people.

If you want to take a test before attending a concert, or football game etc, do it. Not mandatory.

We have to live with this
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Why not mandatory? It’s hardly an imposition. It’s this hard line refusal to do basic stuff like testing and masks that’s dragging this on. There’s no reason not to unless you’re hell bent on infecting people rather than having a minor inconvenience.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,164
Grendel said:
For most people surely we are about 95% back to normal other than I guess the WFH thing which does need to end. What else is actually a problem now?
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Classrooms full of masked students who have to isolate even if they aren’t ill
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,165
Grendel said:
For most people surely we are about 95% back to normal other than I guess the WFH thing which does need to end. What else is actually a problem now?
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WFH isn’t ending even if covid does, large swathes of the workforce aren’t going back and company practices have changed.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,166
Grendel said:
For most people surely we are about 95% back to normal other than I guess the WFH thing which does need to end. What else is actually a problem now?
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Why does WFH need to end?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,167
Nick said:
As opposed to being petrified about something that there is about 0.03% chance of killing me?
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Bingo!
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,168
Grendel said:
For most people surely we are about 95% back to normal other than I guess the WFH thing which does need to end. What else is actually a problem now?
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Even the wfh, surely the default *should* be wfh if you can?

If you can't, don't!
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,169
Grendel said:
For most people surely we are about 95% back to normal other than I guess the WFH thing which does need to end. What else is actually a problem now?
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The majority of companies I do business with in the UK are moving to full time WFH or a hybrid in shared workspaces.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,170
SBAndy said:
Why does WFH need to end?
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A lot of people do not like it - I think FP said he would leave his job if he had to carry on without colleague interaction - its causing a lot of issues at my old company in the staff areas and a lot of animosity with the hourly paid who have to work in the building - some staff are now demanding to not have meetings that effect their ability to take children to their schools. Others are saying they have to WFH or would have to re-instate child care and want compensating.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,171
I do find it funny the so called "all in it together left" become cosy middle class "Im alright Jack" when it suits

Hourly paid serfs go and do the dirty work while I order a cappuccino and croissant and pick my kids up and still get paid more than the oiks actually working
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,172
Grendel said:
I do find it funny the so called "all in it together left" become cosy middle class "Im alright Jack" when it suits

Hourly paid serfs go and do the dirty work while I order a cappuccino and croissant and pick my kids up and still get paid more than the oiks actually working
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Don't forget Avocados.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,173
Skybluefaz said:
Don't forget Avocados.
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Mashed on toast as I am SOOOO much more productive at home boss honest
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,174
Nick said:
Certainly looks to be a good thing so far that people have got Omicron instead of previous variants.
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It's a good thing that people are getting Omicron having been vaccinated. An Omicron outbreak at the start of 2020 would have been catastrophic given its virality. While it's certainly not as severe as Delta, this national perception that Omicron is just a mild virus has more to do with the protection from the vaccines than anything else.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,175
Grendel said:
I do find it funny the so called "all in it together left" become cosy middle class "Im alright Jack" when it suits

Hourly paid serfs go and do the dirty work while I order a cappuccino and croissant and pick my kids up and still get paid more than the oiks actually working
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Not all middle class professions are WFH
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,176
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not all middle class professions are WFH
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No hourly paid ones are
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,177
Grendel said:
No hourly paid ones are
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There's plenty that are.
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,178
shmmeee said:
Why not mandatory? It’s hardly an imposition. It’s this hard line refusal to do basic stuff like testing and masks that’s dragging this on. There’s no reason not to unless you’re hell bent on infecting people rather than having a minor inconvenience.
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Do we have mandatory tests for any other illness that we can live with before we do anything?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,179
Grendel said:
No hourly paid ones are
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Even when teaching was it was horrible
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,180
Nick said:
There's plenty that are.
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Are there - in what sectors? Not self employed but employed?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,181
Nick said:
The reporting also needs to change from with and within 28 days to people going to hospital because of COVID and dying because of COVID.
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That data already exists. The problem is cause of death is back filled for weeks or even months so it is pretty useless for making decisions based on the current situation.

Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics

Provisional number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the latest weeks.
www.ons.gov.uk
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,182
Grendel said:
Mashed on toast as I am SOOOO much more productive at home boss honest
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‘Smashed’
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,183
Sick Boy said:
‘Smashed’
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‘While I smash this avocado don’t forget to smash that like button and subscribe’
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,184
Grendel said:
Are there - in what sectors? Not self employed but employed?
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Fair few customer services type roles.
Virtual Assistant roles.
Graphic designers.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,185
What exactly is it people are wanting to do that they are being prevented from doing with the current rules in place?
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,186
chiefdave said:
What exactly is it people are wanting to do that they are being prevented from doing with the current rules in place?
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Vaccine passports need binning off asap lets be fair.

Aswell as being divisive they're pointless.

I had covid over Xmas as we know. If I hadn't tested due to a heavily pregnant friend due to visit I wouldn't have had a clue I had it. Yet I'm double jabbed. I could have spread the virus willy nilly to all and sundry, and not had a clue. Yet apparently someone unvaccinated, through their own choice, is deemed more of a risk than me because I've been jabbed

Doesn't sit right with me
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,187
Sky Blue Pete said:
How many people have died in the last month within 28 days of a positive covid test?
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The same ammount that probably would have died during a bad flu season, 15k deaths for a bad flu season and flu seems to kill 0 right now so its just that, hopefully deaths drop dramatically soon but no one is a fortune teller.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,188
There are a few who are really annoyed at the WFH bods. Price of fuel/travel they are in effect getting a pay rise. There's definately some animosity built up over the last couple of years, you know the jokers that slacked when they HAD to come in lol. Nobody knows if they are doing work, gardening, sorting the kids out etc. It's not as manic here these days, less idiots bugging you, so £50 odd a week for petrol has some benefits lol.
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,189
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not all middle class professions are WFH
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He probably thinks im middle class yet i have worked feom home even before pandemic , (web developer front and back)
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #57,190
Kieranp96 said:
The same ammount that probably would have died during a bad flu season, 15k deaths for a bad flu season and flu seems to kill 0 right now so its just that, hopefully deaths drop dramatically soon but no one is a fortune teller.
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I could have guessed at the figures. Let’s assume:

Most of the deaths covid contributed to them where there was a positive test
Covid has contributed an additional number of deaths
The increases transmissions and cases led to more death than if it hadn’t happened

So I’m pretty sure that there were about 1500 a week for the last 2 weeks so an annualised figure of 80,000 so somewhat more than an heavy annual flu season

Hence the question
 
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