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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,981
hill83 said:
Isolation complete.

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Go sort the closed roads in earlsdon
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,982
Nick said:
Go sort the closed roads in earlsdon
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I can see a bloke with a shooter out my bedroom window. I’ll leave them to it
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,983
Hospitalisations got nowhere near last winters wave.

Deaths have stayed Low for a year now.

When are we going to change the status of disease from pandemic, to endemic?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,984
Saddlebrains said:
Hospitalisations got nowhere near last winters wave.

Deaths have stayed Low for a year now.

When are we going to change the status of disease from pandemic, to endemic?
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Just waiting for the next variant
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,985
Nick said:
Just waiting for the next variant
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Grow up.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,986
Nick said:
Just waiting for the next variant
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You are acting like just a bit of a cretinous tosser...
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,987
Deleted member 5849 said:
You are acting like just a bit of a cretinous tosser...
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Oh give it a rest you little gimp.

Did you think of that one all by yourself? Well done.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,988
Il be honest , the first couple days I did think to myself , I wonder how I'd be feeling if I was 80 , because I felt like death and I'm 37 ... the headache will not be forgotten either
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,989
Nick said:
Just waiting for the next variant
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You need to get a hobby.
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,990
Evo1883 said:
Il be honest , the first couple days I did think to myself , I wonder how I'd be feeling if I was 80 , because I felt like death and I'm 37 ... the headache will not be forgotten either
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Just a cold m8
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 10, 2022
  • #56,991
Evo1883 said:
Il be honest , the first couple days I did think to myself , I wonder how I'd be feeling if I was 80 , because I felt like death and I'm 37 ... the headache will not be forgotten either
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Glad you're coming through it mind. Also worth asking how you'd be feeling if you'd had no vaccine, too...
 
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Otis

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  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #56,992
I still have a really bad headache. Not as bad as it was a few days ago, but this is now about 17 or 18 days constant. It's really debilitating.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #56,993
One thing to keep in mind is that Omicron hasn’t actually evolved from the other 2 variants, which is why it’s not going to be treated an endemic for quite a while yet.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #56,994
Hope the IKEA Boycott means I can get round there quicker and double meatballs next time I need to go.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #56,995
Nick said:
Hope the IKEA Boycott means I can get round there quicker and double meatballs next time I need to go.
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To be fair since it left coventry its not a place I think to use anyway
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #56,996
Evo1883 said:
To be fair since it left coventry its not a place I think to use anyway
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It's not as ideal but when I moved I did a couple of trips to Birmingham. #doubleboycott
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #56,997
Nick said:
Hope the IKEA Boycott means I can get round there quicker and double meatballs next time I need to go.
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Did laugh that the anti-vaxxers response to Ikea not wanting unvaccinated people in its stores is to start a boycott
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #56,998
The thing is with that, from how it reads it looks as if they only aren't paying if it's from CONTACT isolation rather than actually having it.

I can see their point as people will just be off work but not actually ill.

However it is just going to mean people don't report they have been in contact and go in anyway.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #56,999
Nick said:
The thing is with that, from how it reads it looks as if they only aren't paying if it's from CONTACT isolation rather than actually having it.

I can see their point as people will just be off work but not actually ill.

However it is just going to mean people don't report they have been in contact and go in anyway.
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I seem to recall a lot of push back on Ikea a couple of years back when they tried to cut sick pay. Suspect the reality is that this is a way of them starting to push that change through but blame it on covid and the unvaccinated.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,000
chiefdave said:
blame it on covid and the unvaccinated.
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Easy tactic, it's the new Brexit.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,001
Saddlebrains said:
Hospitalisations got nowhere near last winters wave.

Deaths have stayed Low for a year now.

When are we going to change the status of disease from pandemic, to endemic?
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Pretty much about now
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,002
chiefdave said:
I seem to recall a lot of push back on Ikea a couple of years back when they tried to cut sick pay. Suspect the reality is that this is a way of them starting to push that change through but blame it on covid and the unvaccinated.
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Agree, it's a slippery slope on the road to erosion of employee rights.
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,003
Sky Blue Pete said:
Pretty much about now
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The politicians definition of endemic rather than the actual scientific one of course.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,004
Frostie said:
The politicians definition of endemic rather than the actual scientific one of course.
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Isn't it only an endemic when people decide it's an endemic?
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,005
Nick said:
Isn't it only an endemic when people decide it's an endemic?
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Doesn't the situation in other countries come into play before its declared endemic? Don't think it gets downgraded just based on what is or isn't happening in the UK.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,006
Nick said:
Isn't it only an endemic when people decide it's an endemic?
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Endemic is a formal term used when talking about a certain disease
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,007
Sky Blue Pete said:
Endemic is a formal term used when talking about a certain disease
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endemic meaning - Google Search

www.google.co.uk
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,008
For it to be an endemic it needs to exist at a predictable level. Constant fluctuations & spikes like we're getting currently mean we're nowhere near that yet as much as some MPs want you to believe.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,009
Frostie said:
For it to be an endemic it needs to exist at a predictable level
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This is my point, it depends who makes the predictions.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,010
Nick said:
This is my point, it depends who makes the predictions.
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It's not a prediction, endemic is a pre defined term based on certain conditions. Someone has just posted the definition.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,011
I think we're all just desperate for someone to come on TV and declare the whole thing is over - I'm definitely guilty of letting myself get excited that way about 'Freedom Day' etc. Reality is that there isn't going to be that one moment where we declare victory over COVID.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,012
clint van damme said:
It's not a prediction, endemic is a pre defined term based on certain conditions. Someone has just posted the definition.
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Dr Peter English, former Public Health England consultant in communicable disease control, adds that several accepted definitions "include a requirement for the disease rate being predictable".

"If that is a key part of the definition, we are very definitely not in endemic phase," he says.

"We know that more variants are arising and will continue to arise. We know the ones that become significant will either be more infectious or better able to evade immunity from previous infection or vaccination.

"There is also no guarantee they won't be more virulent, which means we cannot predict when the next variant or next wave of infection will hit us - or how severely it will affect us."
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Most of it does seem to say it needs to be "predictable".

So it does rely on the predictions.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,013
Nick said:
Most of it does seem to say it needs to be "predictable".

So it does rely on the predictions.
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By "predictable" they mean stays at a fairly constant baseline level.

i.e. Not this.

 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,014
Frostie said:
By "predictable" they mean stays at a fairly constant baseline level.

i.e. Not this.

View attachment 23466
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What if we use this one. Whats more important than cases
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2022
  • #57,015
jordan210 said:
What if we use this one. Whats more important than casesView attachment 23467
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Well no because it specifically refers to transmission rates.

Even still it shows huge peaks & troughs, literally the opposite of what you would find in an endemic.
 
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