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clint van damme

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,246
Grendel said:
The concentration camp leaflet comparing people having jabs like Jews going to gas chambers was bad enough but he’s also fairly obviously part of that shocking incident the other week
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Which contradicts anti vaxxers who were wearing yellow stars. They need to get their stories straight. Or better still stop ludicrous and offensive comparisons to the victims of concentration camps.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,247
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You pretty much could not get any harder in terms of lockdown than you can here right now.

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You’re ‘talking’ to someone who couldn’t even leave their home for exercise in the first lockdown.
It’s a temporary situation that will soon pass, just hang in there.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,248
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Very lazy posting Grendel. Comparing someone who is rallying for violence to a poster on SBT questioning the vaccine as a solution to end the pandemic is the real whack take.
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I think quoting straight from the piers Corbyn handbook of tin foil bollocks is pretty lazy and as for “whack take” oddly that tends to be people in a very minority position on such things. Have a look in the mirror,
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,249
Sick Boy said:
You’re ‘talking’ to someone who couldn’t even leave their home for exercise in the first lockdown.
It’s a temporary situation that will soon pass, just hang in there.
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Who on the planet wouldn’t “defend” the vaccine
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,250
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That's a very specific set of words, but then you know that.

It is very underwhelming at stopping infection clearly.
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Well ‘they said it would be over’ is as open ended as it gets.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,251
@shmmeee

On mask wearing in schools-the issue I have is disrupting education so much that yes people are physically in school but the experience is crap. The DfE wants teachers to keep delivering lessons simultaneously to people in the room and at home and talk about merging classes if too many teachers are off. It’s a farce of a system that for whatever effect it has on Covid transmission will still ruin the experience of school for most.

My view remains we need to go the opposite way. End isolation in schools and give children the normality and routine they need. Catching this will affect them the least out of all of us.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,252
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What impresses me is the ability of people to keep defending its use when clearly there are some question marks. For young people, and for its purpose of getting life back to normal. Only to then u-turn on it when it's pointed out that it isn't the case.
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What question marks remain for you?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,253
Grendel said:
Who on the planet wouldn’t “defend” the vaccine
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Boris Johnson’s climate change advisor?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,254
Brighton Sky Blue said:
@shmmeee

On mask wearing in schools-the issue I have is disrupting education so much that yes people are physically in school but the experience is crap. The DfE wants teachers to keep delivering lessons simultaneously to people in the room and at home and talk about merging classes if too many teachers are off. It’s a farce of a system that for whatever effect it has on Covid transmission will still ruin the experience of school for most.

My view remains we need to go the opposite way. End isolation in schools and give children the normality and routine they need. Catching this will affect them the least out of all of us.
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There is also the knock on issue if a child has to isolate.

My daughter got it in the holidays but if it was school time then she would need 10 days isolation, then it means somebody having time off work to look after her. All she had was a headache for 2 days.

Then you times that by how many other kids test positive with little to no symptoms and how many parents are also having time off from work to be there with them.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,255
Nick said:
There is also the knock on issue if a child has to isolate.

My daughter got it in the holidays but if it was school time then she would need 10 days isolation, then it means somebody having time off work to look after her. All she had was a headache for 2 days.

Then you times that by how many other kids test positive with little to no symptoms and how many parents are also having time off from work to be there with them.
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Imagine if we did this isolation policy in a normal school year for outbreaks of flu, cold and norovirus. You’d have empty buildings some of the time. Children getting infections at school helps to build up their immunity more generally in any case.

The damage these rules and regs are causing will last for a long time. As said before but much more experienced colleagues than me haven’t seen mental health so poor among the children as it has been since 2020. Without exaggerating there’s a fair number even in the younger ones self harming or seriously thinking about it.

Really pisses me off that we’re going in the opposite direction.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,256
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Imagine if we did this isolation policy in a normal school year for outbreaks of flu, cold and norovirus. You’d have empty buildings some of the time. Children getting infections at school helps to build up their immunity more generally in any case.

The damage these rules and regs are causing will last for a long time. As said before but much more experienced colleagues than me haven’t seen mental health so poor among the children as it has been since 2020. Without exaggerating there’s a fair number even in the younger ones self harming or seriously thinking about it.

Really pisses me off that we’re going in the opposite direction.
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I think things are just happening too quickly. The next major jump is to manage isolation with minor / mild symptoms. It’s madness to do anything other than manage infection in school
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,257
Sky Blue Pete said:
I think things are just happening too quickly. The next major jump is to manage isolation with minor / mild symptoms. It’s madness to do anything other than manage infection in school
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Children should only be absent if they're physically ill and under those circumstances they shouldn't be expected to log in to a badly microphoned lesson at school. The quality of education is so compromised with the rules as they will be there's almost little point having them in. With people masked up I struggle to hear answers and responses, can't judge the room as effectively and of course you're always having to keep reminding people to keep them on when they don't want to wear them.

If you're going to have schools open, let them offer a normal service. For children this really is like any other illness and in many cases easier than a cold or flu.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,258
Nick said:
There is also the knock on issue if a child has to isolate.

My daughter got it in the holidays but if it was school time then she would need 10 days isolation, then it means somebody having time off work to look after her. All she had was a headache for 2 days.

Then you times that by how many other kids test positive with little to no symptoms and how many parents are also having time off from work to be there with them.
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I fucked up using a forum but the original post was a thread with studies showing masks in schools reduced the numbers of cases (and hence amount of isolation) significantly. That’s why I wanted BSBs input, which seems to be more that masks in schools make the in school experience crap. Whether that’s as important as reducing isolation probably depends if you’re a teacher/kid or a parent.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,259
shmmeee said:
I fucked up using a forum but the original post was a thread with studies showing masks in schools reduced the numbers of cases (and hence amount of isolation) significantly. That’s why I wanted BSBs input, which seems to be more that masks in schools make the in school experience crap. Whether that’s as important as reducing isolation probably depends if you’re a teacher/kid or a parent.
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My broader point is the kids shouldn't have to isolate in the first place.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,260
Brighton Sky Blue said:
My broader point is the kids shouldn't have to isolate in the first place.
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Thats fair too. Did we ever get to the bottom of the schools as vectors issue?

I guess I’m saying if that’s off the table, masks are a shinier turd than not.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,261
shmmeee said:
Thats fair too. Did we ever get to the bottom of the schools as vectors issue?

I guess I’m saying if that’s off the table, masks are a shinier turd than not.
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They may well be, but adults and now secondary school children have all had the chance to be vaccinated, and boosted in the case of adults. Stop ruining education for these people, basically.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,262
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What impresses me is the ability of people to keep defending its use when clearly there are some question marks. For young people, and for its purpose of getting life back to normal. Only to then u-turn on it when it's pointed out that it isn't the case.
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What’s there to defend - the millions of lives it’s saved? Its ability to open up our economies again? The question marks are so insignificant in comparison they’re barely worth thinking about. Oh, two shots of the vaccine didn’t wipe out Covid overnight, boo hoo. Why focus on that when I can just get vaccinated, get boosted if I have to later, and enjoy my life again? I know the Netherlands has it shit right now, but maybe if they’d boosted people to the level that England has, things would be better there right now.

And to return to my original question, is there any vaccine in history that you’d be comfortable with? Any efficacy rate that would make you want the Covid shot? (Which I thought you’d already had)
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,263
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Children should only be absent if they're physically ill and under those circumstances they shouldn't be expected to log in to a badly microphoned lesson at school. The quality of education is so compromised with the rules as they will be there's almost little point having them in. With people masked up I struggle to hear answers and responses, can't judge the room as effectively and of course you're always having to keep reminding people to keep them on when they don't want to wear them.

If you're going to have schools open, let them offer a normal service. For children this really is like any other illness and in many cases easier than a cold or flu.
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Yep
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,264
Felt OK yesterday , felt OK this morning , feel wank now again , making me anxious tbh
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,265
Evo1883 said:
Felt OK yesterday , felt OK this morning , feel wank now again , making me anxious tbh
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Chin up mate,I'm sure you'll be over it soon enough.
 
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Kneeza

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,266
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,267
Kneeza said:
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Well I have no idea if any of that is reputable but it's the question I've asked many times when all we have heard is about vaccine escape and reducing antibody levels .
Sounds hopeful to me and also may back up the views certain folks like the lady from Oxford who suggested the rush to boosters were ,well questionable , can't remember the stance of the JVC1 but thought there may have been some reluctance from one of the authorizing bodies also.
 

jordan210

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,268
I see the same old scare mongers are going
I’m about the scary new French strain. Dr ding and so on.

yet this has been around since November Chise has done a few posts on different studies of the strain.


Amazing how ding and so on are still allowed to spread fear.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,269
jordan210 said:
I see the same old scare mongers are going
I’m about the scary new French strain. Dr ding and so on.

yet this has been around since November Chise has done a few posts on different studies of the strain.


Amazing how ding and so on are still allowed to spread fear.
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Yeah he definitely deserves to be the focus of condemnation rather than those inciting violence and spreading dangerous misinformation about vaccines.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,270
Thought this was interesting. UK vaccination programme currently seeming to show good outcomes given the case rates.

 
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ajsccfc

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  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,271
Suck it Belgium!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,272
2 deaths per million. FFS
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,273
Brighton Sky Blue said:
2 deaths per million. FFS
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yep...exactly.....how long before its finally accepted that this far milder Omicron is no match for a population with 90% vaccination coverage + widespread natural immunity from past infection.......

Surely its time to bin off the requirement to isolate for non-symptomatic cases across the board.....especially as theres good evidence that you're actually most contagious in the couple days before you test positive anyhow....

Isolation is currently fucking the health & education systems more than covid + the tories put together.....
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,274
Think we need a version of this played to the country over and over:

 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,275
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Isolation is currently fucking the health & education systems more than covid + the tories put together.....
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It was obvious that was going to be the case from the start of "Omicron" as well.

If the actual illness from it isn't bad from it, why hide so much?

"It's not the illness it's about protecting the NHS"

Kind of pointless when thousands from the NHS are at home with a headache and runny nose.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,276
Nick said:
Think we need a version of this played to the country over and over:

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Somehow I can't see people in the UK giving up alcohol due to the negative impact it has on your immune system.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,277
chiefdave said:
Somehow I can't see people in the UK giving up alcohol due to the negative impact it has on your immune system.
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Plenty of other options as well as give up the beers completely.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,278
Some teacher union guy on 5 live saying masks should be mandatory in schools for “the next few years” to save teachers lives and from crippling long Covid
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,279
Grendel said:
Some teacher union guy on 5 live saying masks should be mandatory in schools for “the next few years” to save teachers lives and from crippling long Covid
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Was he being serious?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #56,280
Nick said:
Was he being serious?
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Yes. He was in full rant mode. “Members need protecting” said anyone who says live with the virus is disgraceful.
 
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