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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,211
Saddlebrains said:
What a shit analogy.

Again, scientifically proven, il find the article if you like.

Those with 2 jabs and then infection have antibodies 10000x stronger than just jabbed. The booster also waning after 10 weeks doesnt exactly inspire confidence in those being asked to come forward does it?
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It does shock me to be honest how short term the immunity seems to be. An odd virus
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,212
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It does shock me to be honest how short term the immunity seems to be. An odd virus
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I personally dont see how its good for the immune system to have 4 jabs in a year (Israel i think are now doing this?)
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,213
Brighton Sky Blue said:
BCG protection lasts for about a decade and for those who do still get it we can treat it with antibiotics
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Yet people still think Right said Fred know more about this than virologists!
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,214
Saddlebrains said:
What a shit analogy.

Again, scientifically proven, il find the article if you like.

Those with 2 jabs and then infection have antibodies 10000x stronger than just jabbed. The booster also waning after 10 weeks doesnt exactly inspire confidence in those being asked to come forward does it?
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Don’t confuse getting lucky with Covid as evidence that you never needed the booster. You made a dumb decision and got away with it - I’m glad for you, but don’t expect to be lauded for it, and certainly don’t start lecturing others for “shitting themselves” as you continue to justify your own fear of a perfectly safe booster shot.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,215
clint van damme said:
Yet people still think Right said Fred know more about this than virologists!
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Antibiotics for now can still deal with most bacterial diseases but we aren’t far from the point where people not finishing their treatment and GPs over prescribing them makes them powerless against future infections. That concerns me more than future viral variants
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,216
The mask in schools I really don't get, especially if they are testing too.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,217
Nick said:
The mask in schools I really don't get, especially if they are testing too.
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They hate it, I hate it and I really hate enforcing it. Still making them drench desks in the surface wipes too
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,218
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They hate it, I hate it and I really hate enforcing it. Still making them drench desks in the surface wipes too
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My daughter has just had it, she needs a negative test to be able to go back for the new term anyway.

I just don't see the point in making them all sit with masks (teachers too) during lessons.

It's as if it's just something to say "Look we are trying in schools" and tick a box.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,219
Saddlebrains said:
Well turns out i dont need the booster now doesnt it .

Fair points on the rest
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Its an odd argument as many still do and the virus still needs protecting against.

You could drive 100 mile on a motorbike without a helmet and be fine - one day
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,220
Nick said:
My daughter has just had it, she needs a negative test to be able to go back for the new term anyway.

I just don't see the point in making them all sit with masks (teachers too) during lessons.

It's as if it's just something to say "Look we are trying in schools" and tick a box.
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Easiest group to enforce something on is kids. Feels like it's a bit of a token gesture to say they did something.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,221
Nick said:
My daughter has just had it, she needs a negative test to be able to go back for the new term anyway.

I just don't see the point in making them all sit with masks (teachers too) during lessons.

It's as if it's just something to say "Look we are trying in schools" and tick a box.
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That’s exactly what it is. Schools have been disease spreading centres every year before now and nobody cared
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,222
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Who claimed it could prevent all infection?
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That's a very specific set of words, but then you know that.

It is very underwhelming at stopping infection clearly.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,223
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That's a very specific set of words, but then you know that.

It is very underwhelming at stopping infection clearly.
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Really? What vaccines from history and what efficacy rates would impress you? Or is it 100% or nothing for you?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,224
shmmeee said:
It says in the article you linked that it came in when a new team arrived.

Why do you expect the science on a brand new disease to be “consistent”? Everyone involved has been very clear on the unknowns. The vaccine is the end, that’s why we aren’t locked down right now. The restrictions that do exist are because we aren’t out of the woods yet. There’s still unknowns with omicron though the initial signs look good, and there’s still a good chunk of the population that need boosting for the vaccine to be effective against it.

Look at the direction of travel, we’ve got antivirals coming online, we’ve got effective vaccines, we’ve got new dominant strains being weaker. I really don’t get how you can be down about this.
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How can people be encouraged to get the vaccine when there has been an outbreak in Antarctica. It's laughable and makes a mockery of the vaccine.

When people say 'thank god cases are only mild', I doubt these guys are in their 80s and overweight. They are scientists based in one of the most gruelling and remote locations on the planet.

As for the vaccine being the end, look at Europe. Restrictions everywhere. It is never going to end. The go to response is 'not enough people have had the jab'. Then, when you point out examples of circumstances where the uptake is high, the narrative changes again and we begin the circle from the beginning.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,225
SBT said:
Really? What vaccines from history and what efficacy rates would impress you? Or is it 100% or nothing for you?
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What impresses me is the ability of people to keep defending its use when clearly there are some question marks. For young people, and for its purpose of getting life back to normal. Only to then u-turn on it when it's pointed out that it isn't the case.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,226
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What impresses me is the ability of people to keep defending its use when clearly there are some question marks. For young people, and for its purpose of getting life back to normal. Only to then u-turn on it when it's pointed out that it isn't the case.
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Are you regretting taking the vaccine?
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,227
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What impresses me is the ability of people to keep defending its use when clearly there are some question marks. For young people, and for its purpose of getting life back to normal. Only to then u-turn on it when it's pointed out that it isn't the case.
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Defending it? What an odd thing to say given the lives it has saved.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,228
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What impresses me is the ability of people to keep defending its use when clearly there are some question marks. For young people, and for its purpose of getting life back to normal. Only to then u-turn on it when it's pointed out that it isn't the case.
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OK you’re in full on Piers Corbyn mode now. No point talking to you. Hope you’re OK man.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,229
Grendel said:
Defending it? What an odd thing to say given the lives it has saved.
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Yeah it’s incredible that life has more or less returned to normal thanks to the vaccine but there are still those trying to rubbish it.
The no-vaxx brigade also enjoy the freedoms that the vaccine has allowed, yet are too scared to get it themselves the greater good - usually hidden behind fake bravado.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,230
Joe Rogan has a lot to answer for.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,231
shmmeee said:
OK you’re in full on Piers Corbyn mode now. No point talking to you. Hope you’re OK man.
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Funnily enough I was going to say why has Piers Corbyn hacked the idiots account. Why isn’t Corbyn in prison now. He influences morons like this
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,232
Grendel said:
Funnily enough I was going to say why has Piers Corbyn hacked the idiots account. Why isn’t Corbyn in prison now. He influences morons like this
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Did he get arrested for telling people to burn down MPs offices or whatever? If not he should’ve been. White middle class Abu Hamza that guy.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,233
shmmeee said:
Did he get arrested for telling people to burn down MPs offices or whatever? If not he should’ve been. White middle class Abu Hamza that guy.
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I saw the video, I don't think there could be a clearer example of inciting violence.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,234
shmmeee said:
OK you’re in full on Piers Corbyn mode now. No point talking to you. Hope you’re OK man.
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Sick Boy said:
Yeah it’s incredible that life has more or less returned to normal thanks to the vaccine but there are still those trying to rubbish it.
The no-vaxx brigade also enjoy the freedoms that the vaccine has allowed, yet are too scared to get it themselves the greater good - usually hidden behind fake bravado.
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Life has not returned to normal whatsoever, and pointing that out does not make someone Piers Corbyn. It is just a lazy way to get out of responding to genuine and reasonable questions regarding the efficiency of this vaccine to end the pandemic.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,235
shmmeee said:
Did he get arrested for telling people to burn down MPs offices or whatever? If not he should’ve been. White middle class Abu Hamza that guy.
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He was but then I think was walking maskless down a tube train singing a song about a mask being like trying to keep a fart in a pair of trousers.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,236
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Life has not returned to normal whatsoever, and pointing that out does not make someone Piers Corbyn. It is just a lazy way to get out of responding to genuine and reasonable questions regarding the efficiency of this vaccine to end the pandemic.
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Compared to the early lockdowns of 2020, yes it has done. It’s a global pandemic and is going to take time to get back to where we were pre-2020.
If it wasn’t for the vaccine we’d been in harsher lockdowns now across the whole of Europe with thousands more dead.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,237
Grendel said:
Defending it? What an odd thing to say given the lives it has saved.
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Grendel said:
Funnily enough I was going to say why has Piers Corbyn hacked the idiots account. Why isn’t Corbyn in prison now. He influences morons like this
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Very lazy posting Grendel. Comparing someone who is rallying for violence to a poster on SBT questioning the vaccine as a solution to end the pandemic is the real whack take.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,238
clint van damme said:
I saw the video, I don't think there could be a clearer example of inciting violence.
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Is that the old fella trying to rap looking like he was having a stroke?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,239
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What impresses me is the ability of people to keep defending its use when clearly there are some question marks. For young people, and for its purpose of getting life back to normal. Only to then u-turn on it when it's pointed out that it isn't the case.
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Think omicron has changed the dynamics of the conversation too. Always been conflicted about children having vaccines for covid when it has no effect on them
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,240
Nick said:
Is that the old fella trying to rap looking like he was having a stroke?
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That's him, though the rap video isn't 5he one Im referring to. That's probably not a criminal offence, but it should be.
 
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stupot07

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,241

UK Covid test distributor shut for Christmas after receiving 2.5m kits

Alliance Healthcare took delivery on 24 December and then closed for four days, amid nationwide shortage
www.theguardian.com

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,242
shmmeee said:
Did he get arrested for telling people to burn down MPs offices or whatever? If not he should’ve been. White middle class Abu Hamza that guy.
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The concentration camp leaflet comparing people having jabs like Jews going to gas chambers was bad enough but he’s also fairly obviously part of that shocking incident the other week
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,243
Sick Boy said:
Compared to the early lockdowns of 2020, yes it has done. It’s a global pandemic and is going to take time to get back to where we were pre-2020.
If it wasn’t for the vaccine we’d been in harsher lockdowns now across the whole of Europe with thousands more dead.
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You pretty much could not get any harder in terms of lockdown than you can here right now.

 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,244
clint van damme said:
That's him, though the rap video isn't 5he one Im referring to. That's probably not a criminal offence, but it should be.
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Yeah was going to say that rapping should be criminal on it's own.

Deffo get him in a home.
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #56,245
Sky Blue Pete said:
Think omicron has changed the dynamics of the conversation too. Always been conflicted about children having vaccines for covid when it has no effect on them
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Yeah I think Omicron has changed a lot with it being really mild.
 
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