Nick
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Yeah but what will the threshold for that be while people are having to test so much?
Yeah but what will the threshold for that be while people are having to test so much?The end goal is surely rather than eradicate it, weaken it to the point that it doesn't warrant press conferences and daily rates and just becomes something that makes you feel a bit shit in the winter
The main point is that even with 100% vaxx rate, this does not end, as we can see here.
Not a clue what would actually be required to downgrade it, but if positive cases aren't correlating directly with hospital admissions and deaths as appears to be the case with omicron (touch wood) we've got to be well on the wayYeah but what will the threshold for that be while people are having to test so much?
They are correlating but not to the same extent. I do feel like that this is the point where everybody be will have gained some immunity from infection and / or vaccine which means it'll be the last wave that has any major impact (hopefully).Not a clue what would actually be required to downgrade it, but if positive cases aren't correlating directly with hospital admissions and deaths as appears to be the case with omicron (touch wood) we've got to be well on the way
Can only gusss but given the point has always been not to overwhelm the NHS then the threshold will be when we can go about daily life without a risk of the NHS not being able to cope with the number of hospitalisations that generates.Yeah but what will the threshold for that be while people are having to test so much?
…until the world has been vaccinated to the same extent as Europe it won’t be over.
The point of vaccines wasn't to end COVID just limit the impact of it.
The end comes when Covid ceases to have a meaningful impact on your everyday life. Seems like it’s working in the only place in the world with a 100% vaccination rate!
…until the world has been vaccinated to the same extent as Europe it won’t be over.
The vaccine was sold as the end, so the narrative keeps changing. There isn't really any consistency which just fuels skepticism.
How has covid got to Antarctica anyway? I severely doubt a penguin swam from Cape Town carrying it.
The vaccine was sold as the end, so the narrative keeps changing. There isn't really any consistency which just fuels skepticism.
How has covid got to Antarctica anyway? I severely doubt a penguin swam from Cape Town carrying it.
Who claimed it could prevent all infection?
I’d imagine that most COVID infections and deaths go unreported due to limited healthcare facilities.Are Africa having a massive problem with deaths?
Even if it does get vaccinated to the same extent as Europe, I'm not sure how anyone can truly believe it'll be over given the patterns so far.
Omicron is natures vaccine.
Mutated into a much more contagious, however much less serious illness. See Spanish flu, that was 2 years as have been previous pandemics.
We're nearly there, i really do think so
It’s almost like no lessons have been learnt from complacency over the previous 2 years….As others have said, it, C19, is mutating itself steadily into a form which is totally acceptable to the human race, just as so many other initially potentially deadly coronaviruses have done over the years, and are still infecting us with head-colds many years after they lost their original potency.
There will be others, but this one is steadily dwindling into a very infectious, yet very non-agressive (potency wise) version of itself.
It's very nearly time to 'just get on with life'.
It’s almost like no lessons have been learnt from complacency over the previous 2 years….
It says in the article you linked that it came in when a new team arrived.
Why do you expect the science on a brand new disease to be “consistent”? Everyone involved has been very clear on the unknowns. The vaccine is the end, that’s why we aren’t locked down right now. The restrictions that do exist are because we aren’t out of the woods yet. There’s still unknowns with omicron though the initial signs look good, and there’s still a good chunk of the population that need boosting for the vaccine to be effective against it.
Look at the direction of travel, we’ve got antivirals coming online, we’ve got effective vaccines, we’ve got new dominant strains being weaker. I really don’t get how you can be down about this.
It’s almost like no lessons have been learnt from complacency over the previous 2 years….
I’m not talking about the situation in the UK. It’s a global pandemic, which seems to be difficult for some to grasp because they’re so wrapped up in themselves.It's not really being complacent though is it?
People are always going to die with traces of it in their system, especially over winter. People are always going to test positive for it.
Again, the psychology of testing and having COVID rather than a cold will be making this so much worse.
Option 1. "Get some rest, drink plenty of fluids and have a paracetamol and be back on your feet in a couple of days"
Option 2. "You have COVID, it's killing thousands worldwide every day, hundreds of thousands of people have it. Don't see your Gran else you will kill her"
Yeah, it’s a shame you didn’t get the booster in time Evo. Anecdotal but I did and swerved at symptoms (had similar symptoms to you first time I caught it though)
Get well soon
Exactly. Throw in some natural immunity, which might not stop you catching a new variant but looks like it will hopefully keep severe infections down (certainly looking at South Africa figures), it feels like the world is in a far better place than a year ago
Never like to speak too soon with Covid though !
I’m not talking about the situation in the UK. It’s a global pandemic, which seems to be difficult for some to grasp because they’re so wrapped up in themselves.
Christ.What's the location got to do with it?
It looks to be taking over as the primary strain with much less severe symptoms.
My wife has had the booster and she's ill as fuck! Daughter has also had it and she's not been too bad.
Thi k you're right that we're in a better place than a year ago but think sickboy is also right, let's not be complacent.
Christ.
Due to the large differences in access to vaccines and basic healthcare facilities.How does the location make a difference?
Due to the large differences in access to vaccines and basic healthcare facilities.
Due to the large differences in access to vaccines and basic healthcare facilities.
Vaccine hesitancy is huge across much of Africa even the WHO set much lower targets for African countries. Supplies have been arriving in very large quantities.
Again, it's never going to be zero cases and zero deaths with it or from it.
It’s amazing how so many people on here become experts in everything very quickly.You can't say that for sure. I've already given you examples of diseases that have died out.
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