OK, so what about Obese people? At what point do they get refused treatment and categorised for clogging up the NHS because they chose to keep eating and choosing not to exercise etc.
There's an obsession with "clogging up beds" but how many are obese and how much could be prevented if they weren't?
Will that really get mentioned much?
Where does it end?
…let’s not forget the attempted ongoing acts of violence and intimidation and talk of hanging doctors and nurses too.
Impossible Pandora box to openSame here by all accounts Sick Boy (I heard 80-90%+). I think it should be made clear that vaccinated and/or other non Covid patients will have to take priority with ICU beds. It’s each to their own if people want to take the vaccine or not but everyone knows they are at higher risk of severe illness if they don’t, so these people* have got to accept if ICUs are full/filling up they have to wait in line. Sounds brutal but the fairest solution
If they aren’t worried about Covid most/all should be happy to accept this
*unless they cant for medical reasons
Obesity is a much more complicated than taking scientific advice of Right Said Fred over actual scientists.I didn't say it was contagious. However if it's about clogging up the NHS and COVID then you are way more likely to be doing that if you are obese.
That's the thing, people go on about the strain on the NHS but if you mention obesity it's "but that isn't contagious". No, it isn't but if you are obese and catch something that is (not just COVID) then you are much more likely to be hospitalised / seriously ill from it compared to somebody who isn't obese.
I don’t agree with differential treatment. That’s one hell of a slippery slope. Obesity and smoking are both side effects of untreated mental health issues IMO (I say that as a fat smoker), arguably anti vax sentiment is a side effect of a failed education and public health system.
I’ve not seen anyone say lock people up either. But if restrictions can be lifted for those who are vaccinated and if business want or need vaccinated staff that’s just the consequences of your own actions.
Let’s be honest as a fatty smoker if I could take a shot to put me at normal weight and never smoke again I’d take it today. But I can’t so it’s not comparable really.
Taking a shot doesn't mean you won't ever get COVID or Transmit COVID either though.
I think that’s the point I’m trying to make. Drink driving is criminal but there’s a level of alcohol in the blood that’s ok
Speeding is similar 10% above the minimum is criminal but seems to be ok
So the equivalent of not having a vaccine wouldn’t be driving drunk I don’t think
There's a metaphor for the ages.Wearing a condom doesn’t mean you won’t get someone pregnant or get an STD but you still wrap up before shagging a rando in the Colly toilets.
Impossible Pandora box to open
Obesity is a much more complicated than taking scientific advice of Right Said Fred over actual scientists.
Sorry to hear that, the only incident I’ve had was overhearing a security guard in a supermarket in Hove making a comment about me wearing a mask while over there in September. Not sure it’s a good idea for me to go back there again.I've had some pretty obnoxious things directed my way mainly not on here for defending the vaccine.
I didn't say it was contagious. However if it's about clogging up the NHS and COVID then you are way more likely to be doing that if you are obese.
That's the thing, people go on about the strain on the NHS but if you mention obesity it's "but that isn't contagious". No, it isn't but if you are obese and catch something that is (not just COVID) then you are much more likely to be hospitalised / seriously ill from it compared to somebody who isn't obese.
Wearing a seatbelt doesn’t mean you won’t die in a car crash, wearing a crash helmet doesn’t mean that you won’t die in a motorcycle accident. Both significantly increase your chance of survival and reduce your chance of serious injury though. You could literally do this all day.Taking a shot doesn't mean you won't ever get COVID or Transmit COVID either though.
Wearing a condom doesn’t mean you won’t get someone pregnant or get an STD but you still wrap up before shagging a rando in the Colly toilets.
Sorry to hear that, the only incident I’ve had was overhearing a security guard in a supermarket in Hove making a comment about me wearing a mask while over there in September. Not sure it’s a good idea for me to go back there again.
Look at the numbers in the thread Iposted, can you find any examples of the NHS being put under that much sustained pressure by obesity, or smoking or alcohol related issues?
It/they, are really shit comparisons. This is a once in a lifetime global pandemic.
The diet industry in the UK alone is worth £2m. I'm pretty sure if you told people they just needed to turn up at their doctors every 6 months for a jab you'd pretty much eliminate obesity overnight.OK, so what about Obese people? At what point do they get refused treatment and categorised for clogging up the NHS because they chose to keep eating and choosing not to exercise etc.
So why is there no massive push for people to lose weight to also protect them from COVID? Why aren't people being shamed for that? If anything in the first lockdown, it was almost encouraged the way there was the "one walk a day" type shite.
Nobody sane shags in those toilets, clearly it's the park up the road.
Wearing a seatbelt doesn’t mean you won’t die in a car crash, wearing a crash helmet doesn’t mean that you won’t die in a motorcycle accident. Both significantly increase your chance of survival and reduce your chance of serious injury though. You could literally do this all day.
Right said Fred are one of the conduits for the bollocks. Whether you’re specifically listening to them or not you’re clearly listening to the same bollocks and coming to the same ill informed conclusions.Of course in some cases it will be.
Just because people might be wary it doesn't mean they are listening to Right Said Fred though does it?
If you are fairly obese you are much more likely to be seriously ill from COVID (or be clogging up NHS beds)
There’s always been a push for people to lose weight for the benefit of their health.So why is there no massive push for people to lose weight to also protect them from COVID? Why aren't people being shamed for that? If anything in the first lockdown, it was almost encouraged the way there was the "one walk a day" type shite.
Nobody sane shags in those toilets, clearly it's the park up the road.
So why is there no massive push for people to lose weight to also protect them from COVID? Why aren't people being shamed for that? If anything in the first lockdown, it was almost encouraged the way there was the "one walk a day" type shite.
Nobody sane shags in those toilets, clearly it's the park up the road.
Well as someone who has only ever known being overweight I've been shamed and had the piss taken for decades. Do keep making it analogous to believing internet nonsense to not get jabbed
There’s always been a push for people to lose weight for the benefit of their health.
How many hospitalisations per year are due to obesity?
You’ve reached the point where you’re using your own argument to dismiss your own argument. Well done.Yeah, not being obese also reduces your chances significantly too.
Right said Fred are one of the conduits for the bollocks. Whether you’re specifically listening to them or not you’re clearly listening to the same bollocks and coming to the same ill informed conclusions.
I meant in regards to COVID and hospitalisation and strain on the NHS rather than mates taking the piss.
Obesity is a massive factor with COVID.
I'm not saying it's a reason not to get jabbed, I am saying at what point should the rules and treatment be stopped if people refuse to try and lose weight.
Again, just because people are wary for various reasons it doesn't mean they are listening to Right Said Fred.
It's not relevant, not sure what you're not grasping?
This pandemic is putting the NHS under unheard of sustained pressure.
There is nothing to compare it to.
And just for the record I don't want to see anyone denied treatment or pushed to the back of the queue based on vacinne status, weight, being a smoker, being a piss head etc, etc.
It's not like I or others haven't tried...I get you assume everyone's overweight because they're greedy slobs, some sure but it's not that simple most of the time.
Actually Boris after he “caught” covid singled out his weight as a factor and increased funding to the NHS to help fight obesity. Amongst other things.Not so much COVID though? Especially in the younger population where Obesity seems to make more of a difference.
Actually Boris after he “caught” covid singled out his weight as a factor and increased funding to the NHS to help fight obesity. Amongst other things.
Not at all, I fully get it. I have been overweight also. I'm by no means pure muscle or a rake.
Which is exactly what I just pointed out. I clearly said they’re listening to the same bollocks right said Fred spout.Again, just because people are wary for various reasons it doesn't mean they are listening to Right Said Fred.
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