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clint van damme

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,756
Sick Boy said:
Johnson is by far a bigger joke than both of them.
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What makes you say that?

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,757
Sick Boy said:
Johnson is by far a bigger joke than both of them.
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Probably I just generally despair at who’s in charge of the major countries at this point in time when competence is sorely needed.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,758
xcraigx said:
Indeed. If I were to feel rough before a family gathering, COVID times or not, I'm not going over there to give it to everyone else even if I was desperate to meet up with family. It's basic manners, it's common sense.
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Said it before but the pandemic has really highlighted the astonishing levels of selfishness in this country.

As you say even in non-covid times I wouldn't go to my parents if I thought as was ill as I didn't want to pass anything on to them yet people will happily turn up when clearly ill because their Christmas is more important.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,759
Saddlebrains said:
Feel shite today.

Weirdly got achy muscles dont know if thats a symptom or not. General lethargy and cough

Sore throat and headache seem to have subsided though
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They say aching muscles is a sign of the new variant as well as tiredness, you'll be fine in a day or two. I felt the same last week but was -ve on a LFT.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,760
chiefdave said:
Said it before but the pandemic has really highlighted the astonishing levels of selfishness in this country.

As you say even in non-covid times I wouldn't go to my parents if I thought as was ill as I didn't want to pass anything on to them yet people will happily turn up when clearly ill because their Christmas is more important.
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As I said before Christmas I got spoken to like a ‘lockdown lover’ for not wanting to mix much this year. When last year the same people were fine to make me alone on Christmas because I could quarantine for 7 days and not 10.

People still haven’t learned to just be kind to each other
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,761
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Probably I just generally despair at who’s in charge of the major countries at this point in time when competence is sorely needed.
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I feel that. I’m appreciating every day Draghi is in charge her - makes a change to have a serious politician in charge.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,762
Sick Boy said:
I feel that. I’m appreciating every day Draghi is in charge her - makes a change to have a serious politician in charge.
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Bolsonaro, Johnson, Duterte, Macron, Modi, Trump, the Aussie guy. All in charge in 2020 and all just terrible in their own ways.

We have got to stop falling for charisma and personalities and respect that someone who seems ‘boring’ or technocratic is what’s needed to solve the complex global problems most countries now face.

Then again in this country people win votes by being actively anti intellectual
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,763
Brighton Sky Blue said:
His continued presence as PM is an international embarrassment. Or at least it would be if Biden and Macron weren’t competing
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Now I am no fan of Biden or Macron but it's ridiculous to put them in the same category as Johnson
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,764
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Probably I just generally despair at who’s in charge of the major countries at this point in time when competence is sorely needed.
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Biden is very poor but compared to Trump?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,765
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Bolsonaro, Johnson, Duterte, Macron, Trump, the Aussie guy. All in charge in 2020 and all just terrible in their own ways.

We have got to stop falling for charisma and personalities and respect that someone who seems ‘boring’ or technocratic is what’s needed to solve the complex global problems most countries now face.

Then again in this country people win votes by being actively anti intellectual
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Yeah I agree, I was talking to someone recently who said he’d rather have Berlusconi back as PM rather than Draghi as he’s more ‘fun’.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,766
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Bolsonaro, Johnson, Duterte, Macron, Trump, the Aussie guy. All in charge in 2020 and all just terrible in their own ways.

We have got to stop falling for charisma and personalities and respect that someone who seems ‘boring’ or technocratic is what’s needed to solve the complex global problems most countries now face.

Then again in this country people win votes by being actively anti intellectual
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As much as I can't stand Johnson I wouldn't go as far as comparing him to Duterte! Don't think even Trump and Bolsonaro deserve to be lumped in with him, a total maniac.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,767
Deleted member 9744 said:
Now I am no fan of Biden or Macron but it's ridiculous to put them in the same category as Johnson
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In terms of global perception I mean, not what I actually think of each leader. Macron has handled things, not just COVID, very poorly and is clinging on to power by his fingertips. As for Biden he’s there fiddling while his country burns. No he doesn’t make the same ridiculous comments as Trump but he’s also had to be press ganged into even making LFTs free of charge to his own people.


There are very few leaders who even come close to what the world needs now.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,768
Sick Boy said:
Yeah I agree, I was talking to someone recently who said he’d rather have Berlusconi back as PM rather than Draghi as he’s more ‘fun’.
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Exactly the attitude that lead to the chaos that we have. I don't want fun politicians. I want competence and integrity.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,769
clint van damme said:
As much as I can't stand Johnson I wouldn't go as far as comparing him to Duterte! Don't think even Trump and Bolsonaro deserve to be lumped in with him, a total maniac.
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I’m not suggesting Johnson would go as far as pushing people out of helicopters (unless ziplined). Just that the general calibre of world leaders is as low as it has been since WW2
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,770
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m not suggesting Johnson would go as far as pushing people out of helicopters (unless ziplined). Just that the general calibre of world leaders is as low as it has been since WW2
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fair enough, I'd add Modi to your list, another psycho.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,771
clint van damme said:
fair enough, I'd add Modi to your list, another psycho.
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Forgot about him. Someone who wouldn’t think twice about nuking Pakistan and China in one go
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,772
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Bolsonaro, Johnson, Duterte, Macron, Modi, Trump, the Aussie guy. All in charge in 2020 and all just terrible in their own ways.

We have got to stop falling for charisma and personalities and respect that someone who seems ‘boring’ or technocratic is what’s needed to solve the complex global problems most countries now face.

Then again in this country people win votes by being actively anti intellectual
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You forget Lukashenko
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,773
Deleted member 9744 said:
You forget Lukashenko
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I think he’s forgotten himself
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,774
Deleted member 9744 said:
Biden is very poor but compared to Trump?
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He really isn't that bad, he's got issues with 1 person in congress who is blocking 1bill but all in all not doing that bad.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,775
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think he’s forgotten himself
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He doesn't forget his opponents
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,776
David O'Day said:
He really isn't that bad, he's got issues with 1 person in congress who is blocking 1bill but all in all not doing that bad.
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Pretty important bill and last time I checked Joe Manchin wasn’t President. He has done what he said he would do pre-election: nothing fundamentally different.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,777
David O'Day said:
He really isn't that bad, he's got issues with 1 person in congress who is blocking 1bill but all in all not doing that bad.
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Compared to his predecessor he's brilliant but overall he is poor. Afghanistan for example was a disaster.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,778
Bojo announcement at 4
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,779
Deleted member 9744 said:
Compared to his predecessor he's brilliant but overall he is poor. Afghanistan for example was a disaster.
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not really, the US population support him on that.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,780
David O'Day said:
not really, the US population support him on that.
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That doesn't make it right or a success. The majority of them supported Trump
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,781
Sick Boy said:
He would bring them in if he wasn’t in such a weak position. It’s amazing the country is effectively run by some backbenchers.
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I don’t think he would Sick boy and I’m glad he’s sat tight to wait for more data. If backbenchers have encouraged that then so be it.

Id rather that than imposing random nonsensical stuff like fines for people who don’t WFH (Drakeford) or telling football clubs they can only have a maximum of 500 supporters in…where does that figure even come from ?! Same place as her come into a pub but only drink a soft drink earlier in the year ?!! (Sturgeon). What happened to the magical covid passports in the devolved nations ?!!

All for what, mainly to protect people who have decided not to be vaccinated from filling up hospitals ?! From all the info I’ve seen to date and numerous anecdotal evidence, if youre triple jabbed you’ll barely get any symptoms, double jabbed (especially recently) you’re almost certain to avoid severe illness ?! Even no jabs you’re far less likely to end up in hospital with Omicron. Let’s hope it stays that way

This comes down to what country do you want to live in now ? For all Johnson’s faults and he’s got a shitload, his natural instinct is to try not to impose unnecessary restrictions. That cost him/country last winter but this time it feels/appears like it might be different

It remains to be seen whether it was/is the right approach, however, there are plenty of posters on here that don’t usually support the governments actions and yet I can’t recall seeing any/many questioning Johnsons approach this time, which tells its own story.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Dec 27, 2021
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ajsccfc

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,783
Saddlebrains said:
Now i feel fine again.

Really fucking weird it comes in waves
Im assuming its the vaccine as to why that is, instead of feeling wall to wall shit if unjabbed?
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That's one of the things about it I'd heard from people where one day they feel like they're on the mend and then the next day back to square one. This was fairly early on so I think even before the vaccine, but it should hopefully be in your case that the worst parts aren't as bad as they could have been otherwise
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,784

No new Covid rules to be announced in England on Monday

The PM is being briefed on the latest Covid data in England, as the rest of the UK tightens rules.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,785
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,786
Deleted member 9744 said:
That doesn't make it right or a success. The majority of them supported Trump
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It makes it a success in the eyes of the only people that really matter to Biden. The US people
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,787
Yep official

No new measures this year

No new Covid rules in England before new year - Javid

The health secretary's comments come as England reported a record 113,628 cases on Christmas Day.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,788
David O'Day said:
It makes it a success in the eyes of the only people that really matter to Biden. The US people
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Well yes most people in the Philippines like Duterte's crazy ideas that they can kill drug dealers. Doesn't make them right.

So if measures are popular they are a success and right? The world really has gone mad.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,789
Deleted member 9744 said:
Well yes most people in the Philippines like Duterte's crazy ideas that they can kill drug dealers. Doesn't make them right.

So if measures are popular they are a success and right? The world really has gone mad.
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Why should he care what the rest of the world think if what he has done was a popular move with people who can actually vote for him.

Also we couldn't of stayed there forever
 

JAM See

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #55,790
Sick Boy said:
Something like less than 15% of Africa has even had one dose of a vaccine, there’s still a way to go yet, unfortunately.
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Genuine question for the statto's on here

What's the increase in (excess) mortality rate like in Africa compared to Europe?

I'm not even sure I've framed the question correctly. Hopefully you know what I mean.
 
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