Vaccines are the only thing giving my Mum a fighting chance of a) not catching Covid and b) fighting it off if she does, but people are choosing to belittle and mock, and consciously spread doubt with no basis in reality. It's actually pretty offensive and hurtful.There is no lockdown here Nick. Vaccines enabled the UK to lift restrictions in July, without them we'd be nowhere.
Agree, some of the stuff on here is lurching towards the shite you'd read on paranoid Facebook groups.Vaccines are the only thing giving my Mum a fighting chance of a) not catching Covid and b) fighting it off if she does, but people are choosing to belittle and mock, and consciously spread doubt with no basis in reality. It's actually pretty offensive and hurtful.
Oh so I'm not allowed an opinion and to have doubts then?I'm not trying to make anybody proud.
To be fair, you're spouting more bullshit with stuff like "lockdown ending vaccine". Which one is that?
Vaccines are the only thing giving my Mum a fighting chance of a) not catching Covid and b) fighting it off if she does, but people are choosing to belittle and mock, and consciously spread doubt with no basis in reality. It's actually pretty offensive and hurtful.
What are you asking about it?View attachment 23284
Is this allowed to be asked about?
This is from up to the 12th so will be before the huge booster push so numbers may look a lot different in a couple of weeks when yeah the huge majority will be boosted. It's Omicron variant specific rather than old COVID.
What are you asking about it?
I dunno what are they saying on the group?That if you have never had it before and then get a booster you are much more likely to potentially get Omicron than somebody who might have had it before and is double jabbed for example.
Or are the stats just from FB loons?
I dunno what are they saying on the group?
Is there no reasoning on the page you got the stats from? Can you link to the URL please?No clue. What about yours?
I was more looking for the potential scientific reasoning that could be making it like that.
So cool that the guy who runs this forum spends all day complaining about sensationalist media, then posts random tables about the vaccine that he’s seen online without knowing if it’s just FB loons, but hey, he’s just asking questions ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That if you have never had it before and then get a booster you are much more likely to potentially get Omicron than somebody who might have had it before and is double jabbed for example.
Or are the stats just from FB loons?
Is there no reasoning on the page you got the stats from? Can you link to the URL please?
Scientifically speaking I do not see how the jab itself could lower your immunity even in the initial stages.
I get that it's more infectious, just seems a different type of person it's targeting now with infection (rather than serious illness).
Is it that somebody who is double jabbed and not had it but just had the booster would have less anti-bodies than someone who is double jabbed and had Covid-19, taking into account the 2 week lag that the booster supposedly has to give you max protection?
Aren't those stats independent of each other? You've got probabilities to various vaccination statuses, and the propability of being infected with the variant drops as expected in line with the vaccination schedule. You've then got probabilities for those previously infected, and as we already knew having covid one reduces the probability of catching it again.That if you have never had it before and then get a booster you are much more likely to potentially get Omicron than somebody who might have had it before and is double jabbed for example.
The most up to date version of the data that Nick posted is here. Head to table 2a which gives a similar breakdown as before and now gives 2 weeks after a third dose as among the lowest rates.
Yeah that's just COVID, the one I posted was "Omicron" was specific so why it was slightly different.
2 hits of Moderna the same as 2 and booster as well.
Also, bring back smoking
Ok, but you would assume that all COVID would also include proportionally similar Omicron cases, particularly over tens of thousands of tests.
There weren't that many Omicron cases in November though were there? Guessing that's mostly OG COVID.
That if you have never had it before and then get a booster you are much more likely to potentially get Omicron than somebody who might have had it before and is double jabbed for example.
Or are the stats just from FB loons?
These side effects just get worse.he’s up the duff
Damn he died because he crashed his car, whats the point in seatbelts?My bros stepson has been triple jabbed & has had covid previously & he tested today,(when he didn’t even have to) - lo & behold…he’s up the duff with the Kung flu
What’s the point of the vaccines?
My bros stepson has been triple jabbed & has had covid previously & he tested today,(when he didn’t even have to) - lo & behold…he’s up the duff with the Kung flu
What’s the point of the vaccines?
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