David O'Day
Well-Known Member
You do understand modelling? It's not exact and it is based on certain circumstances which mean once those things change i.e.measures are taken then thus the model will be out of date.
This is GCSE stuff
Well they do though dont they?
If Sage were correct throughout this pandemic we"d have about 10 million deaths and the NHS would no longer function.
You love doom and gloom you do
Pretty sure he won't give a shit. People like that dont.
Anyone else now ready to admit that those of us who were saying this was going to be a massive overreaction are right yet?
Cautious optimism. No swinging wildly from reckless abandon to lockdown at a whimAnyone else now ready to admit that those of us who were saying this was going to be a massive overreaction are right yet?
They produce multiple models though don’t they.Well they do though dont they?
If Sage were correct throughout this pandemic we"d have about 10 million deaths and the NHS would no longer function.
You love doom and gloom you do
They produce multiple models though don’t they.
Just if you get your information from tabloids you’d think there would be millions of deaths as they all run with the worst case scenario predictions.
I think it’s also a problem with a profit driven print media that is haemorrhaging money so needs to sensationalise to sell, social media nonsense that people take as fact and a state media that has dropped objectivity for nepotism.This is the issue LG, but not just with the tabloids, a lot of the written and tv media. The modelling info has also been represented/misrepresented by government and scientific advisors to suit
Most people havent got the time or inclination to read through a 40 page doc so are reliant on the info being disseminated in an honest, transparent and digestible way...which hasn’t been the case throughout the pandemic. I personally think the models should have a one or two page summary of best, worst and most likely scenario of cases, hospital admissions and deaths inc outline assumptions and probability of outcomes. Hard to condense a lot of the info but probably doable. That would hopefully encourage a more honest appraisal by media....although maybe not !
Cautious optimism. No swinging wildly from reckless abandon to lockdown at a whim
Absolutely right to prioritise boosters and to wait for hospitalisation figures and deaths.
I’m also pretty pleased with what seems like a very sensible decision to reduce the length of isolation
Nhs Chris hopson interestingly was talking about hospitalisations not being the only thing to consider and moved on to staff absence and routine medical practice falling behind meaning restrictions should stay.
I do get that it’s important to limit isolation but did feel like moving goalposts
Final point is we still don’t have all the data, just encouraging data showing this variant seems milder than delta
I’m cautiously optimistic it’ll burn itself out before too long and this is me sat here stuck with it missing Christmas with family.Points well made above.
I'm fully confident now that this is going to be nowhere near as bad as the MSM made out.
Each day passing its looker brighter
I think it’s also a problem with a profit driven print media that is haemorrhaging money so needs to sensationalise to sell, social media nonsense that people take as fact and a state media that has dropped objectivity for nepotism.
People also see these big numbers and think the modellers are useless when in actual fact they’ve taken the number with no restrictive measures at all when we’ve had full lockdowns etc.
Yeah really good point. That will be borne out in the figures but only retrospectively. I think taking that risk with people that have been offered every opportunity to protect themselves with a vaccine seems less of eugenics than it would otherwiseAgree with all this Pete. Only query is whether it’s actually milder at all or it’s just our immunity (natural and/or vaccine) making it appear milder. This could be key, especially for unvaccinated. Let’s keep our collective fingers crossed
They need to teach critical thinking to children in school.24 hour media needs sensationalism unfortunately
They need to teach critical thinking to children in school.
They need to teach critical thinking to children in school.
Although adults seem to be worse at not being able to distinguish bullshit.
Cos their ducking dad has a WhatsApp group that tells him what’s really going onPointless really, people will just shout tin foil hat to them.
Cos their ducking dad has a WhatsApp group that tells him what’s really going on
Maybe a bit of positive news reaffirming whats been said above. Still early days though
Omicron COVID symptoms milder than Delta in UK, early data suggests
UK Health Security Agency expected to say transmissibility of the new variant is very high, meaning large numbers may still end up in hospital.www.politico.eu
They don't get it right or wrong, models are based on hypothetical scenariosWell they do though dont they?
If Sage were correct throughout this pandemic we"d have about 10 million deaths and the NHS would no longer function.
You love doom and gloom you do
Objectionable is definitely alive and well lolCritical thinking and objectionable thinking is long gone.
Imagine a teacher trying to teach that now, sacked within a week.
Shock.
It's almost as if they knew anyway but by rolling so many boosters out after making out the world is going to end, they will have saved the day
It might well be the booster that’s made it milder for most. Especially this over 50/60
Did I read that they don't say which modelled outcome is more likely? If so, that's a bit odd.They don't get it right or wrong, models are based on hypothetical scenarios
Yeah maybe rightYeah in the vulnerable and the older folk.
Otherwise healthy young adults, could have sent their booster off to vulnerable and older folk elsewhere who needed it more.
Did I read that they don't say which modelled outcome is more likely? If so, that's a bit odd.
I mean I could model a night out to my mates; 'good', 'ok', 'bad'. Don't think they'd find that very useful!
Brilliant. For some people it seems like it’s been a revelation over the past two years that the media outlets broadcast/produce stuff with their own bias.Are you new to the media or something? They whip up everything.
Daily Mail - Immigrants are going to cause record surge in covid cases
The Express - Covid is punishment for not loving Princess Diana enough and it's going to snow
The Guardian - Ethnic minorities suffer from covid you bastards
You clearly know fuck all about teaching Maths.Schools haven't a clue what to do with kids any more. Maths still hasn't moved on from the 'you won't always have a calculator with you'.
Not for the reasons you think though. Critical thinking is hugely important, but there is not time for it in the ‘curriculum’ which is largely ticking boxes to satisfy consultants/OFSTED/Trustees.Critical thinking and objectionable thinking is long gone.
Imagine a teacher trying to teach that now, sacked within a week.
Not for the reasons you think though. Critical thinking is hugely important, but there is not time for it in the ‘curriculum’ which is largely ticking boxes to satisfy consultants/OFSTED/Trustees.
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