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Nick

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,301
SBT said:
Your suggestion that the threat from coronavirus (including Omicron) is being overblown compared to other health problems doesn't really work though. You may not be concerned, but plenty of health experts are.

Why will it get to that point? Because the media want to sell more papers? (Makes sense, lockdowns have done wonders for newspaper sales so far...haven't they?)
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My suggestion was about Omicron, hence I used that word. It clearly is being massively played up.
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,302
shmmeee said:
Its never been about deaths. It’s about hospital capacity.
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Pointless having beds when people are made to self isolate with a sniffle.

It's sad but people are going to go into hospital and die and more in the Winter. Loads of the restrictions they want to bring still don't make any sense.

It's not much different to locking the country down bar London. Illogical.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,303
Nick said:
My suggestion was about Omicron, hence I used that word. It clearly is being massively played up.
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Played up by who, and to what end?

The government? (They've consistently resisted lockdowns)
The media? (Lockdowns are disastrous for their business models)
The health experts? (They have no power)

All of them would love nothing more than to move on from Covid. Just like the rest of us. It would be the best news ever for them - lockdowns have nearly killed them all, in some cases literally.

If there is a puppet master secretly at work in the UK that I've missed, then they've done a pretty good job of getting the rest of the world to join in.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,304
robbiekeane said:
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Looking milder which would be brilliant
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,305
shmmeee said:
Its never been about deaths. It’s about hospital capacity.
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That’s true too but it’s looking good all be it we don’t have all the necessary information
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,306
chiefdave said:
People seem to have got it into their heads that this is only happening in the UK and everyone else is just cracking on like nothing has changed when pretty much the opposite is true.

We relaxed things far more than anyone else to start off with. When speaking to ex-colleagues still working on tour in the music industry the thing I have been hearing over and over again since freedom day is 'why are you acting like the pandemic is over?' and concern that there are zero mitigations in place when pretty much every other country they visit is still doing something, no matter how minor, to try and prevent future waves. Yet while people visiting the country were saying that people were complaining about how they had had their freedom taken away.

Its the same now, people are complaining that we are panicking and / or the government & press are over-hyping the variant to cover up their other messes yet the slowly but surely the rest of the world is going into lockdown.
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A lockdown over what though? Nobody is dying
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,307
SBT said:
Played up by who, and to what end?

The government? (They've consistently resisted lockdowns)
The media? (Lockdowns are disastrous for their business models)
The health experts? (They have no power)

All of them would love nothing more than to move on from Covid. Just like the rest of us. It would be the best news ever for them - lockdowns have nearly killed them all, in some cases literally.

If there is a puppet master secretly at work in the UK that I've missed, then they've done a pretty good job of getting the rest of the world to join in.
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It's bullshit to make out the media aren't playing it up, it sells. You obviously have some sort of need to defend them but you only have to look at the majority of coverage which is desperate to whip up fear.

The Government, as it shows Lockdown doesn't seem to apply to them anyway. Why are they so keen this time? It was obvious from the start of this "wave" of Omicron. Especially how Boris was so keen to tell everybody that somebody had died with it and then people going on TV just happening to make "mistakes" in their numbers.

I'm sure the people making vaccines aren't complaining about the money being thrown at them either.

The whole thing has been about inciting fear amongst people and dividing them.
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,308
CCFCSteve said:
That is the reason though, it’s just the way the article is written. People need to step back from how things are presented by the media. I read last week it’s something like 98% of transmission is in first five days. It’s needed changing for a while and we will hopefully see more compliance on the back of it.
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Nobody‘s arguing about the rate of transmission but if people do happen to get it,so what? Chances are it’s just cold symptoms -the whole country needs to stop panicking & losing their shit over this variant….it’s ridiculous
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,309
Nick said:
It's bullshit to make out the media aren't playing it up, it sells. You obviously have some sort of need to defend them but you only have to look at the majority of coverage which is desperate to whip up fear.

The Government, as it shows Lockdown doesn't seem to apply to them anyway. Why are they so keen this time? It was obvious from the start of this "wave" of Omicron. Especially how Boris was so keen to tell everybody that somebody had died with it.

I'm sure the people making vaccines aren't complaining about the money being thrown at them either.
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Are you new to the media or something? They whip up everything.

Daily Mail - Immigrants are going to cause record surge in covid cases
The Express - Covid is punishment for not loving Princess Diana enough and it's going to snow
The Guardian - Ethnic minorities suffer from covid you bastards
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,310
baldy said:
Nobody‘s arguing about the rate of transmission but if people do happen to get it,so what? Chances are it’s just cold symptoms -the whole country needs to stop panicking & losing their shit over this variant….it’s ridiculous
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It's already been explained to you that a variant while being a lot less severe in most cases can be worse for hospitalisation rates if it spreads to to many people and it is rightly sensible that we look at what are at the moment very mild restrictions . Still you are a thick c**t who prefers to post clearly made up stories about mythical friends who work in hospitals.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,311
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s true too but it’s looking good all be it we don’t have all the necessary information
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I just don't get how people can't see it is better to be careful rather than ignore it and then the worst happens.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,312
David O'Day said:
It's already been explained to you that a variant while being a lot less severe in most cases can be worse for hospitalisation rates if it spreads to to many people and it is rightly sensible that we look at what are at the moment very mild restrictions . Still you are a thick c**t who prefers to post clearly made up stories about mythical friends who work in hospitals.
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SBT

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,313
Nick said:
It's bullshit to make out the media aren't playing it up, it sells. You obviously have some sort of need to defend them but you only have to look at the majority of coverage which is desperate to whip up fear.

The Government, as it shows Lockdown doesn't seem to apply to them anyway. Why are they so keen this time? It was obvious from the start of this "wave" of Omicron. Especially how Boris was so keen to tell everybody that somebody had died with it.

I'm sure the people making vaccines aren't complaining about the money being thrown at them either.
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I'm sorry, the government is "keen" for a new lockdown? Are you sure you have that right?

The media certainly overplays elements of the Covid story, just as it does with every story from politics to football - (sadly) that's their prerogative, and we all lap it up, yourself included. But can they force Chris Whitty to tell people to avoid unnecessary social gatherings? Or force Jenny Harries to warn about hospitals being overwhelmed? You may pride yourself on being able to read past sensationalist headlines, but you've gone too far the other way I'm afraid.

The vaccine companies? Sure, they have a dog in this fight. But weren't you moaning this time last year about not being able to get one quickly enough when everything was locked down?
 

baldy

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,314
David O'Day said:
It's already been explained to you that a variant while being a lot less severe in most cases can be worse for hospitalisation rates if it spreads to to many people and it is rightly sensible that we look at what are at the moment very mild restrictions . Still you are a thick c**t who prefers to post clearly made up stories about mythical friends who work in hospitals.
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What the hell’s with the abuse & this notion that I’ve made up ‘mythical’ friends etc?
Seriously what is wrong with you?
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,315
TikTok - Make Your Day
Natural immunity vs vaccine immunity.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,316
David O'Day said:
I just don't get how people can't see it is better to be careful rather than ignore it and then the worst happens.
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Frustration and lack of trust I think. I’m with you all the way

Cautious optimism for now
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,317
Liquid Gold said:
Are you new to the media or something? They whip up everything.

Daily Mail - Immigrants are going to cause record surge in covid cases
The Express - Covid is punishment for not loving Princess Diana enough and it's going to snow
The Guardian - Ethnic minorities suffer from covid you bastards
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It's next level with COVID. It is literally drummed into people consistently.

At what point do we say "Yeah, people will die" and carry on as normal?

It's something new to divide people, like Brexit was.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,318
baldy said:
A lockdown over what though? Nobody is dying
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You still dont understand the point, the lockdown was nwver to stop people dying it was about sropping the nhs being overwhelmed, ok it would of lead to more deaths but its all about the nhs,
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,319
Kieranp96 said:
You still dont understand the point, the lockdown was nwver to stop people dying it was about sropping the nhs being overwhelmed, ok it would of lead to more deaths but its all about the nhs,
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Yeah, it isn't going to be the Virus overwhelming.

It's going to be people sat at home who are OK to work.

Are we going to now test for every little thing and make people isolate just in case they pass it on? Quarantine people who sneeze?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,320
baldy said:
What the hell’s with the abuse & this notion that I’ve made up ‘mythical’ friends etc?
Seriously what is wrong with you?
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Because you posted a clearly false story about a pretend of yours saying the NHS has never been that busy during the pandemic. I'm not the only one to call you out on your clear and quite obvious lies.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,321
Just got my positive.

Christmas is cancelled
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,322
Sky Blue Pete said:
Frustration and lack of trust I think. I’m with you all the way

Cautious optimism for now
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Yeah exactly, but you get weirdos like Baldy posting lies
 

Langers70

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,323
My eldest daughter works at the hospital...at its height she was wrapping bodies every day,shes 19 for gods sake.There was army medics coming in and changing into civvies to help.But i guess shes full of shit? Gtf!
 
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baldy

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,324
David O'Day said:
Because you posted a clearly false story about a pretend of yours saying the NHS has never been that busy during the pandemic. I'm not the only one to call you out on your clear and quite obvious lies.
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Fuck off with your ‘pretend’ friend shit - Why would I,or he for that matter,lie?
You‘re so odd aren’t you?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,325
Fk me O'day on the side of reason. I refuse to 'like' his posts even though I agree.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,326
This is descending into a chimps tea party again lads lets all calm down.

Yes we should take precautions, and these mildish restrictions now im sure we all accept to make sure the NHS is overhwelmed


However, we cant ignore the data here, and from where Omicron first spread like shit, that it's more than likely all going to be OK.


Chill
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,327
Liquid Gold said:
Just got my positive.

Christmas is cancelled
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Sorry to hear that mate. Join the club. Hope symptoms are minimal at worst.

 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,328
Liquid Gold said:
Just got my positive.

Christmas is cancelled
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Get well soon. Have a party indoors
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,329
Nick said:
Yeah, it isn't going to be the Virus overwhelming.

It's going to be people sat at home who are OK to work.

Are we going to now test for every little thing and make people isolate just in case they pass it on? Quarantine people who sneeze?
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Well yes because wgat happens if you have covid and you give it someone fragile abd they die? Yes omicron bla bla but majority of uk is still delta driven.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,330
Kieranp96 said:
Well yes because wgat happens if you have covid and you give it someone fragile abd they die? Yes omicron bla bla but majority of uk is still delta driven.
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What happens if you have a cold or flu with no symptoms and pass it on and they die? Let them test daily and go back asap.

If we are now going to isolate people so much then you are going to need 3 times the staff as cover.

So much of it is what if. Meanwhile everything else gets forgotten.

There has to be a balance and acceptance that sadly, people die.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,331
baldy said:
Fuck off with your ‘pretend’ friend shit - Why would I,or he for that matter,lie?
You‘re so odd aren’t you?
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I'm odd? You are the one making stuff up. I'm not the only one to call you out on it.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,332
Langers70 said:
My eldest daughter works at the hospital...at its height she was wrapping bodies every day,shes 19 for gods sake.There was army medics coming in and changing into civvies to help.But i guess shes full of shit? Gtf!
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But, but, but Baldy's pretend friend says this isn't true
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,333
David O'Day said:
But, but, but Baldy's pretend friend says this isn't true
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I think you two should shag
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,334
Saddlebrains said:
I think you two should shag
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Both seem the type to make up having a shag to be honest.

Clearly those 2 blokes who catfish each other.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 21, 2021
  • #55,335
Kieranp96 said:
Well yes because wgat happens if you have covid and you give it someone fragile abd they die? Yes omicron bla bla but majority of uk is still delta driven.
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On the radio this morning it said they're going to start releasing data on the number of cases per variant and on vacinnated v unvacinnated (not sure if the latter applies to all cases or just hospitalisations).
 
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