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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,091
SBT said:
I didn’t know if the rules had changed, seeing as you’d been coy on here about your own vaccination status.
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He said quite a while ago he intended to get vaccinated.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,092
fernandopartridge said:
Have you had a brain injury? The point of isolation isn't so the person has time to feel better it's to try and stop the thing spreading. While for some people it will be mild for others it will not and the bigger the spread the more people with severe illness and the more pressure on the NHS.

I get the arguments about no more lockdowns but self isolation when you've had a positive test isn't really that arguable.
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As I mention above there is a sensible discussion to be had around length of self isolation though to minimise periods where a person is isolating but isn’t contagious. There is also a theory that if you are able to safely reduce the period you’ll get a higher rate of compliance. It would need to be tied into new testing requirements though
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,093
For example the "Case Fatality Rate" which looks to be 0.24% at the last update which won't have time for all the Omicron to kick in.

At what point IF it hopefully does remain really low does somebody say, "actually, if you are a double jabbed and boosted paramedic then isolate for less time on production of a negative Lateral flow".

There will be a point where making every stay locked away for 10 days is going to be more destructive than letting them pass it on to 2 or 3 people that they might. For example.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,094
Nick said:
For example the "Case Fatality Rate" which looks to be 0.24% at the last update which won't have time for all the Omicron to kick in.

At what point IF it hopefully does remain really low does somebody say, "actually, if you are a double jabbed and boosted paramedic then isolate for less time on production of a negative Lateral flow".

There will be a point where making every stay locked away for 10 days is going to be more destructive than letting them pass it on to 2 or 3 people that they might. For example.
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That's a case fatality rate of 1 in 400, are you sure you've not missed a decimal place there!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,095

COVID-19 Data Explorer

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It is obviously going to change with the Omicron effect.

Hopefully that will drop.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,096
Ian1779 said:
Using absolute values without context is meaningless - populations size and proportion fully vaccinated should be considered.
For context - in SA where this variant supposedly originated they have only 26% fully vaccinated from a population of 60m we have 70% of a 68m population.
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And the last variant originated here...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,097
MusicDating said:
And the last variant originated here...
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Thought it was India
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,098
Nick said:
Just 2 days wages lost or 2 half days?

How often? Every time i get one of the omicron symptoms even though the lateral flow is negative?
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Didn’t realise you worked 24 hours a day Nick apologies
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,099
Deleted member 5849 said:
Nothing in life is certain, but a PCR test is as certain as you'll get.
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The fly in the ointment is if you have had Covid you can’t have a PCR test again for 90 days as it can give unreliable results, thus you have to rely on LFT’s which aren’t entirely accurate.

I had Covid and had a positive, negative then positive lateral flow test during that period.

if you’ve had Delta, I presume there’s nothing to stop you getting Omicron and without a definitive PCR people could easily become spreaders.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,100
Ccfcisparks said:
Didn’t realise you worked 24 hours a day Nick apologies
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That's the isolation until getting a PCR and then the results after my first bogey.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,101
Not sure if posted already but this came out of Imperial yesterday.

Omicron largely evades immunity from past infection or two vaccine doses | Imperial News | Imperial College London

COVID-19 OMICRON - The Omicron variant largely evades immunity from past infection or two vaccine doses according to the latest Imperial modelling.
www.imperial.ac.uk
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,102
MusicDating said:
And the last variant originated here...
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When our proportion of vaccinated people was lower
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,103
You can get a PCR as soon as you can get to a test centre, so within about half an hour.

Then you will usually get the result before you wake up the next morning.

It's a very fast and efficient process.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,104
PVA said:
You can get a PCR as soon as you can get to a test centre, so within about half an hour.

Then you will usually get the result before you wake up the next morning.

It's a very fast and efficient process.
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Bit fucked if you can’t drive
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,105
PVA said:
You can get a PCR as soon as you can get to a test centre, so within about half an hour.

Then you will usually get the result before you wake up the next morning.

It's a very fast and efficient process.
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Yeah so depending on first bogey time.

For context. Last time the school rang because my daughter didn't feel well, picked her up just after lunchtime and went for PCR.

Results arrived the next morning. Granted. She was still isolating so didn't go to school because it didn't come through in time.

That was before the omicron symptoms so she was more ill, but yeah still an afternoon off work and then maybe a morning.

You can't do that because of a runny nose. Especially if you don't get sick pay or are self employed.
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,106
It’s the sheer amount of testing & trying to look for the variant in people that’s made this all a big clusterfuck - I‘ve not got any of the symptoms so I’m not testing myself…simple
I might have cancer or a heart disease but I’m not showing any of the symptoms for those so I sure as fuck aren’t testing for what is,effectively,a cold & a sniffle
Get a grip
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,107
baldy said:
It’s the sheer amount of testing & trying to look for the variant in people that’s made this all a big clusterfuck - I‘ve not got any of the symptoms so I’m not testing myself…simple
I might have cancer or a heart disease but I’m not showing any of the symptoms for those so I sure as fuck aren’t testing for what is,effectively,a cold & a sniffle
Get a grip
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If I could test several times a week for cancer or heart disease with a simple non intrusive test even if I didn't have symptoms then I absolutely would.

I think anyone would.
 
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baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,108
PVA said:
If I could test several times a week for cancer or heart disease with a simple non intrusive test even if I didn't have symptoms then I absolutely would.

I think anyone would.
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So the good old winter colds of the past just HAS to be a variant of covid now does it?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,109
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,110
Well i am covid +, probably delta as where i am only a few omicron cases
, double vaccinated and been wearing mask in shops where needee, bit covid been going through misses family so reckon i got it from there on sundau or Tuesday before they tested +.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,111
Kieranp96 said:
Well i am covid +, probably delta as where i am only a few omicron cases
, double vaccinated and been wearing mask in shops where needee, bit covid been going through misses family so reckon i got it from there on sundau or Tuesday before they tested +.
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Hope you don't kill a granny over Christmas.

In all seriousness, hopefully will just be a sniffle.
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,112
Posted this on the football thread by accident.

However.

If you death lovers on this thread can handle some good news...
 

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Saddlebrains

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  • Dec 18, 2021
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,114
State of this lot.
Im sure there's a very good reason why the MET are handling this with Kids gloves compared to the Sarah Everard vigil.

 
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Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,115
clint van damme said:
State of this lot.
Im sure there's a very good reason why the MET are handling this with Kids gloves compared to the Sarah Everard vigil.

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"No medical apartheid", wtf, how can anyone think that is an acceptable choice of words for the situation.
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,116
clint van damme said:
State of this lot.
Im sure there's a very good reason why the MET are handling this with Kids gloves compared to the Sarah Everard vigil.

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Just what is needed, a mass protest to do about Covid in a City that has just declared a major incident to do with Covid.
 
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Blind-Faith

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,117
What a bunch of absolute fucking clowns. Surely they have got something better to do???
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,118
Get the bats out like old school.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,119
Jamesimus said:
"No medical apartheid", wtf, how can anyone think that is an acceptable choice of words for the situation.
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They've been comparing themselves to victims of the holocaust as well, cretins.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,120
Full lockdown just announced here, from 5am tomorrow. All shops and hospitality to close and my match has been cancelled tomorrow afternoon too. Think it could be a rough few weeks coming up.

Wish me luck lads.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,121
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Full lockdown just announced here, from 5am tomorrow. All shops and hospitality to close and my match has been cancelled tomorrow afternoon too. Think it could be a rough few weeks coming up.

Wish me luck lads.
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Fucks sake. Putting to one side Wwhether or not it's the right thing to do it a really difficult thing to go through, especially having been through a couple already.

All you can do is tough it out. Good luck.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,122
Saddlebrains said:
Posted this on the football thread by accident.

However.

If you death lovers on this thread can handle some good news...View attachment 23192
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Death lovers? You're a fucking weirdo
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,123
Nick said:
Hope you don't kill a granny over Christmas.

In all seriousness, hopefully will just be a sniffle.
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Will do my isolation, no granny here to kill , and more than a sniffle already, fatigued to the max i have alresdy had covid twice before and im double vaccinated im unlucky.
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,124
Jamesimus said:
"No medical apartheid", wtf, how can anyone think that is an acceptable choice of words for the situation.
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We've had worse on this thread
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #55,125
Saddlebrains said:
Posted this on the football thread by accident.

However.

If you death lovers on this thread can handle some good news...View attachment 23192
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I posted something similar to this days ago
 
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