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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,111
hill83 said:
No it isn’t
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Oh yes it is!

Sorry, it's panto season
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,112
hill83 said:
So.

“Get boosted, boosted the boosted, make sure you get boosted, to protect boosted boosted, boosted”

“Boosted”
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,113
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I wonder where @fatso has disappeared to after embarrassing himself the other day. Seemed like his critical thinking needed a boost
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I'm still here you prick!
Just quietly waiting for the obvious auto immune time bomb to explode!
It might take a couple of years, but bumping this thread then will be very interesting.
You gloat all you want now, but I'll be waiting quietly to say I told you so!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,114
Philosorapter said:
Johnson is to make a speech at 20.00.

This is looking serious. It looks like they have needed to change the bulb.

Covid: UK alert level raised to four due to Omicron spread

Prime Minister Boris Johnson is due to give an update on the Covid booster programme at 20:00 GMT.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Got a like just for my favourite Red Dwarf gag.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,115
Nick said:
Just lucky that the cure made before and the other 2 do nothing.
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It's not the cure - it shows promising results if boosted, but that's still down on the results pre-Omicron, where booster was looking at 90% + protection against symptomatic Covid. The 75% they're looking at now is also the initial result after booster, and will wear down too, although that 75% is about zero symptoms and not keeping you out of hospital, the results of which which will be susbstantially higher.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,116
Deleted member 5849 said:
It's not the cure - it shows promising results if boosted, but that's still down on the results pre-Omicron, where booster was looking at 90% + protection against symptomatic Covid. The 75% they're looking at now is also the initial result after booster, and will wear down too, although that 75% is about zero symptoms and not keeping you out of hospital, the results of which which will be susbstantially higher.
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Looking forward to the next strain that has no symptoms but requires a booster and everybody is tested for it daily.

Look at the spin in the dod article about hospitalisations.

What parties that Boris had?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,117
Nick said:
Looking forward to the next strain that has no symptoms but requires a booster and everybody is tested for it daily.

Look at the spin in the dod article about hospitalisations.
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You really are chatting some shit. The booster programme was happening anyway. As for the current measures to slow spread, I refer back again to the very beginning of this, where a fair number of us said it'd blow over, and it turned into a shitshow. Just what is wrong with some VERY SMALL measures to slow spread as they gather data? Better to get the data and find it's harmless than to not bother and find it's anything bt.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,118
Deleted member 5849 said:
You really are chatting some shit.
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How is it chatting shit?

Read the headline about so many people hospitalised with the new variant and then the little line hidden away.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,119
Deleted member 5849 said:
You really are chatting some shit. The booster programme was happening anyway. As for the current measures to slow spread, I refer back again to the very beginning of this, where a fair number of us said it'd blow over, and it turned into a shitshow. Just what is wrong with some VERY SMALL measures to slow spread as they gather data? Better to get the data and find it's harmless than to not bother and find it's anything bt.
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Yeah it was happening.. now there's shit loads of scare mongering to get it ramped up though.

Yeah read back months ago, I said this would never end.

How often do we start bringing in measures because there might be a chance of something? This won't be the end. It will be 2026 and everybody is locked down because people going into hospital have been tested positive for something they had absolutely clue had.
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,120
Nick said:
Just lucky that the cure made before and the other 2 do nothing.

Then as stuff comes out about the government everybody needs to get it.

People will rush to get it with no clue if this strain is even bad.
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5G
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,121
hill83 said:
5G
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I'll be alright I can only get 4g here.
 

baldy

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,122
Evo1883 said:
My mate and his wife have omicron , neither have any symptoms
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Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,123
fatso said:
I'm still here you prick!
Just quietly waiting for the obvious auto immune time bomb to explode!
It might take a couple of years, but bumping this thread then will be very interesting.
You gloat all you want now, but I'll be waiting quietly to say I told you so!
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I'm no expert in the field of virology like yourself, so what do you mean by 'obvious auto immune time bomb'?
 

Si80

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,124
baldy said:
Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?
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Some people have to lat flow to go to work. I’d guess that would throw up the CV+ and then PCR to confirm.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,125
hill83 said:
It’s the non symptoms that are the problem. If you’ve got flu you are in bed fucked. But you can be absolutely fine with this and pass it on to someone’s nan and they are dead in 2 weeks.
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This has largely been my argument against vaccine only passports. As the vaccine lowers symptoms you can become a super spreader quite easily.

As I said earlier about the age thing, it's more relevant than jabbed versus non-jabbed. Keep old and fat people out of nightclubs and they'll be almost no hospitalisations or deaths.

(For anyone looking to get offended, the last sentence is a joke).
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,126
Skybluefaz said:
I'm no expert in the field of virology like yourself, so what do you mean by 'obvious auto immune time bomb'?
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Wait and see, I'm no expert, but reports are suggesting the mRNA vaccine is causing auto immune respons issues.
It's going to take a long time for any issues to be collated and results reported.
So rather than getting in a slagging match with people on here who think it's totally safe and will no doubt queue up for every booster going for as long as the government can afford to subsidise the program, I've decided to keep my own council until the issues break publicly.
 

Marty

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,127
baldy said:
Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?
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I had to when I was a close contact with someone, had a lateral flow at work return negative then sent to do a PCR about 10 minutes later which returned positive. Makes me question the success rate of lateral flow tests.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,128
fatso said:
I'm still here you prick!
Just quietly waiting for the obvious auto immune time bomb to explode!
It might take a couple of years, but bumping this thread then will be very interesting.
You gloat all you want now, but I'll be waiting quietly to say I told you so!
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This is a troll account right?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,129
Has anybody died from this variant in other countries or South Africa yet?
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,130
baldy said:
Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?
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I do before I go to my 92 year old grandads house. That ok?
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,131
fatso said:
Wait and see, I'm no expert, but reports are suggesting the mRNA vaccine is causing auto immune respons issues.
It's going to take a long time for any issues to be collated and results reported.
So rather than getting in a slagging match with people on here who think it's totally safe and will no doubt queue up for every booster going for as long as the government can afford to subsidise the program, I've decided to keep my own council until the issues break publicly.
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What data is being used in the report to suggest there will be an issue if it's going to take a long time for any issues to be collated and reported? I'm confused. This sounds like something off a dodgy Facebook post.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,132
Nick said:
Has anybody died from this variant in other countries or South Africa yet?
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It isn't all about deaths though right?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,133
Skybluefaz said:
It isn't all about deaths though right?
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What is it about then? "Hospitalisations" which can just be somebody going in with a broken leg who tests positive for it.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,134
fatso said:
Wait and see, I'm no expert, but reports are suggesting the mRNA vaccine is causing auto immune respons issues.
It's going to take a long time for any issues to be collated and results reported.
So rather than getting in a slagging match with people on here who think it's totally safe and will no doubt queue up for every booster going for as long as the government can afford to subsidise the program, I've decided to keep my own council until the issues break publicly.
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You should have stopped after expert.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,135
Nick said:
What is it about then? "Hospitalisations" which can just be somebody going in with a broken leg who tests positive for it.
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Yeah but given that all variants have that same possibility…
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,136
Skybluefaz said:
What data is being used in the report to suggest there will be an issue if it's going to take a long time for any issues to be collated and reported? I'm confused. This sounds like something off a dodgy Facebook post.
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Faz the information is already out there, you just need to search for it, you are certainly not going to be presented with it on a plate via main stream media.
Lots of data that conflicts with the official government story gets deleted very quickly, but there's more and more stuff coming on line every day. The thing is, if it was all from no marks, it wouldn't carry any weight. But there are no end of eminent experts expressing concerns.
 

fatso

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,137
fernandopartridge said:
You should have stopped after expert.
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Thanks for the well thought out and informative response, this forum is so lucky to have you.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,138
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yeah but given that all variants have that same possibility…
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So if there have been no deaths from it and it's reported as mild if anything. Why is there being mass panic created?

Look back to a link d'od posted to see the spin.

Yet the South African woman who has been dealing with the variant for a few weeks also says it's very mild.

So what statistic should we be looking for?
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,139
baldy said:
Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?
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Probably because they are intending to see vulnerable relatives who they don't want to kill
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,140
Nick said:
So if there have been no deaths from it and it's reported as mild if anything. Why is there being mass panic created?

Look back to a link d'od posted to see the spin.

Yet the South African woman who has been dealing with the variant for a few weeks also says it's very mild.

So what statistic should we be looking for?
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The only relevant statistic, is how many doses of booster vaccine did Bojo pre-order?
And how much money has it cost the tax payer? And how much profit has the manufacturer made?
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,141
baldy said:
Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?
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Because I have an 70+ year old mum i'd like not to die mate, that ok with you?

Also lol at you saying no one was in hospital with this new variant and you being quickly made to look the utter fool you are.
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,142
baldy said:
Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?
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Work? Travel? Covid pass? Close contact? Free test so curious?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,143
David O'Day said:
Because I have an 70+ year old mum i'd like not to die mate, that ok with you?

Also lol at you saying no one was in hospital with this new variant and you being quickly made to look the utter fool you are.
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Again, while he is over the top one way. You are the other end.

Read past the headline in your link.
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,144
hill83 said:
I do before I go to my 92 year old grandads house. That ok?
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It was a genuine question - calm down
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,145
fatso said:
Faz the information is already out there, you just need to search for it, you are certainly not going to be presented with it on a plate via main stream media.
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Again, can't you just link to where you've found it?
 
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