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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,041
skyblue1991 said:
Given the choice of having the third dose or giving it to someone else who may be more at risk than me I would choose the latter.

I'm assuming the 'many' you mean are those in other countries worldwide? Do unused does get distributed elsewhere if there is no take-up?

Forgive me for thinking that three doses in six months in which my last one was in August seems excessive. I don't think my age group would've been offered the booster if it weren't for this variant if I'm honest

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Why does it "seem excessive" compared to what?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,042
skyblue1991 said:
Yes I do mean it. There are people statistically more at risk than me (as per the NHS website) and if it meant that my dose went to someone abroad that haven't had the number of vaccines that the UK had that are more at risk then I would
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you meant risking giving the virus to someone, not giving them your booster.
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,043
baldy said:

Is It True That No One Has Died with Omicron Variant?

Early studies indicate the strain may cause less severe COVID-19 symptoms compared to its precursor, the delta variant.
www.snopes.com

Really?
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Yes really , might not be as frequent but its still putting some people in hospital, some are even on ventilators. So yes really.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,044
Kieranp96 said:
Yes really , might not be as frequent but its still putting some people in hospital, some are even on ventilators. So yes really.
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Yeah, of course people with Omicron will unfortunately be hospitalised and die. I can’t believe people are quoting low/zero figures when the variant has only just started spreading.

What we all need to know and hope the government/scientific advisors are honest about is; were these people vaccinated, how old were they and what’s the hospitalisation/mortality rate compared to delta
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,045
CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, of course people with Omicron will unfortunately be hospitalised and die. I can’t believe people are quoting low/zero figures when the variant has only just started spreading.

What we all need to know and hope the government/scientific advisors are honest about is; were these people vaccinated, how old were they and what’s the hospitalisation/mortality rate compared to delta
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If it follows the pattern of previous new variants, vaccine efficacy against symptoms/infection will be reduced but protection against serious illness should remain unaffected. A critical difference compared to last year is of course that we only need people to get a booster for this effect as opposed to two jabs spaced apart.

Quietly confident
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,046
skyblue1991 said:
I'll be trying to book my booster for next week

I feel a bit aggrieved that I'll have had 3x covid jabs in 6 months and that I personally think the Omicron variant is overhyped by the UK media, but if it helps to do my bit to keep restrictions limited then so be it

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How can you feel aggrieved about being given a vaccination that might well save your life? This is ridiculous. I am exceptionally grateful to have received mine.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,047
baldy said:
Nobody in the world is going to hospital with this Moronic strain or even dying from it
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People are in hospital with it in the UK.
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,048
CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, of course people with Omicron will unfortunately be hospitalised and die. I can’t believe people are quoting low/zero figures when the variant has only just started spreading.

What we all need to know and hope the government/scientific advisors are honest about is; were these people vaccinated, how old were they and what’s the hospitalisation/mortality rate compared to delta
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I read somewhere that 6 people dies of omicron in sa 2 via accidents and had covid but 4 actually covid 3 were between 30/40 1 was 60+, look at dr john campbell on youtube.
 

baldy

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,049
Leaked documents say apparently there’s gonna be a lockdown come January the 5th - absolutely ridiculous if true
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,050
baldy said:
Leaked documents say apparently there’s gonna be a lockdown come January the 5th - absolutely ridiculous if true
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Did you get that from the same source that told you no one is in hospital with the new variant?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,051
baldy said:
Leaked documents say apparently there’s gonna be a lockdown come January the 5th - absolutely ridiculous if true
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Yeah, I said something similar the other day. I’d heard 4th but . Feels like jumping the gun and hope it’s just a precautionary plan. For me it should depend on hospitalisations over next two weeks in conjunction with SA data

Rather that than before NYE though, at least it gives hospitality a chance by having a full xmas period !

We don’t know what measures they’re talking about either though. Might well be increased restrictions/measures rather than ‘lockdown’
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,052
Mrs. Wisdom's workplace are having their meeting to decide whether the working from home where possible applies to them... tomorrow.

Nothing like a flexible working contract eh...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,053
Deleted member 5849 said:
Mrs. Wisdom's workplace are having their meeting to decide whether the working from home where possible applies to them... tomorrow.

Nothing like a flexible working contract eh...
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Is she in a union NW?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,054
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Is she in a union NW?
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She is - I made her join one a few months back.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,055
Deleted member 5849 said:
Mrs. Wisdom's workplace are having their meeting to decide whether the working from home where possible applies to them... tomorrow.

Nothing like a flexible working contract eh...
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What gives them the power to decide? What does she do?
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,056
Deleted member 5849 said:
Mrs. Wisdom's workplace are having their meeting to decide whether the working from home where possible applies to them... tomorrow.

Nothing like a flexible working contract eh...
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Surely it should be as simple as can she do her job as effectively at home. If yes, job done. Hope they see sense
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,057
530k boosters yesterday. Let’s hope we can keep that pace up this week
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,058
Talking about unions, Unison's NEC has been on fire recently.

Here is a portion of one NEC report.

"...We then moved to obituaries. One obituary resulted in a ‘final message’ from a deceased UNISON
member being read out by an NEC member. This message was to the effect that all the members of
the NEC were as bad as each other: ‘you’re all a pack of bastards’. ..."
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,059
Philosorapter said:
Talking about unions, Unison's NEC has been on fire recently.

Here is a portion of one NEC report.

"...We then moved to obituaries. One obituary resulted in a ‘final message’ from a deceased UNISON
member being read out by an NEC member. This message was to the effect that all the members of
the NEC were as bad as each other: ‘you’re all a pack of bastards’. ..."
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The teaching unions haven’t really helped our cause by wanting everyone masked up all day, one way systems, staggered breaks etc. They should be campaigning for children not to have to isolate.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,060
Some Companys seem so shit, i aint in a union and ive worked from home since march 2020, im now working from Hungary until my contract is up, unless they want to hire me again on the basis i am living abroad.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,061
Kieranp96 said:
Some Companys seem so shit, i aint in a union and ive worked from home since march 2020, im now working from Hungary until my contract is up, unless they want to hire me again on the basis i am living abroad.
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When it comes to unreasonable working conditions that should be the union’s bread and butter. Hopefully they can intervene for NW’s missus.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,062
baldy said:
Leaked documents say apparently there’s gonna be a lockdown come January the 5th - absolutely ridiculous if true
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Covid: First people in UK hospitals with Omicron variant

The variant accounts for a third of infections in London, Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi says.
www.bbc.co.uk

Lol at you
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,063
To be fair, if you read it they said it isn't confirmed they are in hospital because of the variant.....

Just depends how things get spun either way.
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,064
David O'Day said:

Covid: First people in UK hospitals with Omicron variant

The variant accounts for a third of infections in London, Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi says.
www.bbc.co.uk

Lol at you
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You do realise that people are getting tested over & over thus giving a high number of ‘cases’? You don’t like any opinion/fact that’s different from yours do you Mavis,I mean,David?
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,065
skybluetony176 said:
Did you get that from the same source that told you no one is in hospital with the new variant?
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Why scoff at something that could possibly be true? You know otherwise then?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,066
baldy said:
You do realise that people are getting tested over & over thus giving a high number of ‘cases’? You don’t like any opinion/fact that’s different from yours do you Mavis,I mean,David?
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remember when you said more people die in car accidents that of covid?!!
You're a fucking idiot.
 
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baldy

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,067
clint van damme said:
remember when you said more people die in car accidents that of covid?!!
You're a fucking idiot.
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Am I wrong though? Calm down too…you look silly getting so angry
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,068
It is very difficult to have an open conversation about it as there is a lot of emotion involved I know, but about the age thing, people really do need to get some perspective. Of course, there are exceptions, and nothing is for granted, but have a look at these numbers here. This is regarding the data in the Netherlands which shows that since the beginning of time - 162 people have died of Covid under the age of 49.


Link here: Netherlands: coronavirus deaths by age 2021 | Statista

And before anyone says, ´so you don´t care about old people´, please don´t try that deflection. It is boring, juvenile, and not true.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,069
baldy said:
Am I wrong though? Calm down too…you look silly getting so angry
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yes you are, as was proved at the time, and proved now. I'm not angry, you're a cretin, that doesn't make me angry!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,070
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It is very difficult to have an open conversation about it as there is a lot of emotion involved I know, but about the age thing, people really do need to get some perspective. Of course, there are exceptions, and nothing is for granted, but have a look at these numbers here. This is regarding the data in the Netherlands which shows that since the beginning of time - 162 people have died of Covid under the age of 49.


Link here: Netherlands: coronavirus deaths by age 2021 | Statista

And before anyone says, ´so you don´t care about old people´, please don´t try that deflection. It is boring, juvenile, and not true.
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But again, resources are taken up by hospitalisation too. My best mate's brother-in-law is 39 and not dead, but used up more resources than if he had been dead. It's also worth noting that figures would be depressed by the measures we've taken and, without them, they'd have been, and would be going forward, substantially higher.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,071
baldy said:
You do realise that people are getting tested over & over thus giving a high number of ‘cases’? You don’t like any opinion/fact that’s different from yours do you Mavis,I mean,David?
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I've just realised how we stop people getting and dying from cancer!

If we stop testing and identifying it no-one can be said to have it or die from it.

No need to thank me - just glad to do my bit for mankind.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,072
baldy said:
Am I wrong though? Calm down too…you look silly getting so angry
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you just look silly. you said there was no one in Hospital wit the new variant and you were wrong you ugly dumb sad fucking weirdo

Get off the pipe mate
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,073
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I've just realised how we stop people getting and dying from cancer!

If we stop testing and identifying it no-one can be said to have it or die from it.

No need to thank me - just glad to do my bit for mankind.
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Again from the other side, if everybody was tested for flu instead and died within 28 days the flu deaths would shoot up.

Numbers can be manipulated either way.

I wish cancer could be tested for do easily though and so often.
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,074
Johnson is to make a speech at 20.00.

This is looking serious. It looks like they have needed to change the bulb.

Covid: UK alert level raised to four due to Omicron spread

Prime Minister Boris Johnson is due to give an update on the Covid booster programme at 20:00 GMT.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #54,075
To know truly. Need to know how serious it is. How ill are people from that and any deaths
 
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