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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,586
shmmeee said:
He works for lots of commercial landlords. That’s all there is to understand.
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Scotland wales and Northern Ireland just simply following medical advice. Boris no plans mmmmmmm
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,587
Kieranp96 said:
Im double jabbed and have been ill 3/4x in the past 3 months, im takong antobody test just out of curiosity (paying for it myself), im eligible for my booster in the uk now and in Hungary where i reside, but i dont want to waste a vaccine when it wont affect me, assuming one of my sicknesses was covid.
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You will waste it if you don't have it tbf as it's unlikely to be capable of being redistributed elsewhere
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,588
Sick Boy said:
Fully preparing for not being able to visit there this Christmas.
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Sadly I think you are right.

I am just planning Christmas myself and starting to accept seeing family in the UK might be a bit too difficult.

I think at least if you manage that expectation, if it does happen, it might hurt a bit less.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,589
Grendel said:
Left wing rang using war analogy shocker
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It's about as left wing as you are
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,590
Skybluefaz said:
Fair play Saj. He makes Hancock look like, well Matt Hancock.

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Bet Hancock was as relentless trying to get his bit on the side in that dirty little room
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,591
Deleted member 5849 said:
The working from home if you can, I find utterly bizarre to have stopped, anyway.
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In practice I think many people are still doing it, I know I am having STILL not been allowed to the office since March 2020. Lots of my clients still 100% wfh
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,592
fernandopartridge said:
In practice I think many people are still doing it, I know I am having STILL not been allowed to the office since March 2020. Lots of my clients still 100% wfh
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I'm still baffled by Mrs Wisdom, who's been asked to go in four days a week so 'students get the full experience'. Given she's mainly office based... I have to say, when I went to Uni, my idea of the full experience wasn't some woman doing mundane admin tasks in an office!

tbf, *some* of her job, she needs to be in, but it's a flexible working contract that, it turns out, ain't flexible about *where* you work flexibly!

I can only assume said university has some prominent Tory donors funding it!
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,593
fernandopartridge said:
You will waste it if you don't have it tbf as it's unlikely to be capable of being redistributed elsewhere
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Haven't booked in, so realisticly they shouldn't even allocate me one, and it looks like i will get my 3rd here in hungsry anyway..
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,594
Kieranp96 said:
Im double jabbed and have been ill 3/4x in the past 3 months, im takong antobody test just out of curiosity (paying for it myself), im eligible for my booster in the uk now and in Hungary where i reside, but i dont want to waste a vaccine when it wont affect me, assuming one of my sicknesses was covid.
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Sounds like you’re going to a lot of trouble just to be told you need the booster. Which you already know.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,595
Sky Blue Pete said:
Scotland wales and Northern Ireland just simply following medical advice. Boris no plans mmmmmmm
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To be fair though Pete those countries have had ridiculous vaccine passport rules that have had little/no impact as well as confusing mask messaging (see pubs and clubs) that again won’t help in certain situations

We currently don’t know whether this variant is any more serious and still don’t know if it’s vaccine resistant and if so, how resistant it is. I’d imagine this won’t be the last time this situation arises with a new variant in the coming months and years so they’ve got to be very careful introducing measures that aren’t necessary otherwise it could be a case of the boy who cries wolf when something serious does come along where they need full compliance

I think the restrictions/measures put in place appear to be sensible precautions while the scientists get a better understanding. In the meantime the best thing people can do is stop fucking about and get the vaccine and booster when able to... worst case it protects them from the delta variant which is still by far the most prominent variant in the UK (to at least minimise hospitalisations from that), best case is it provides sufficient protection from new variant to avoid serious illness

Obviously all of the above is caveated on data coming through on new variant ! Just keeping fingers crossed
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,596
CCFCSteve said:
We currently don’t know whether this variant is any more serious and still don’t know if it’s vaccine resistant and if so, how resistant it is. I’d imagine this won’t be the last time this situation arises with a new variant in the coming months and years so they’ve got to be very careful introducing measures that aren’t necessary otherwise it could be a case of the boy who cries wolf when something serious does come along where they need full compliance
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I do agree with you, fwiw. The wfh rule though, doesn't really affect 'normality' as such, the same as wearing masks in crowded spaces - they still allow people to get on with life pretty much as before. I know at my workplace they were flexible that those who were going mad at home / unable to work because the world and his wife were also wfh, they were allowed into the office anyway. Surely better that way around than compelling people for no real reason?

And I'd say that Covid or no Covid! tbh I've been going in a day a week as much because of that madness issue, but there's no *need* for me to be in much of the time. What we don't seem to have done is used Covid to take certain elements, and adopt them. Instead, it's back to same-old same-old in many areas and that's... depressing really.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,597
Skybluefaz said:
The unnecessary confusion just makes everything worse.
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I think they intentionally make it confusing.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,598
Deleted member 5849 said:
I do agree with you, fwiw. The wfh rule though, doesn't really affect 'normality' as such, the same as wearing masks in crowded spaces - they still allow people to get on with life pretty much as before. I know at my workplace they were flexible that those who were going mad at home / unable to work because the world and his wife were also wfh, they were allowed into the office anyway. Surely better that way around than compelling people for no real reason?

And I'd say that Covid or no Covid! tbh I've been going in a day a week as much because of that madness issue, but there's no *need* for me to be in much of the time. What we don't seem to have done is used Covid to take certain elements, and adopt them. Instead, it's back to same-old same-old in many areas and that's... depressing really.
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Yeah, WFH should currently* be a workplace call though, not government. I agree, a lot of roles could/should be flexible working and no reason why higher risk employees shouldn’t be actively encouraged to WFH.

*could change soon !
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,599
When do we reckon he'll make the everyone WFH call then?

Im going Friday
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,600
skybluetony176 said:
Sounds like you’re going to a lot of trouble just to be told you need the booster. Which you already know.
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Not at all, i just dont want my 3rd jab if my antibody levels are good enough, someone else can use my vaccine spot and i can simply wait .
 

JAM See

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,601
Cardiff on Boxing day.

On or off?
 

JAM See

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,602
@clint van damme

How did you lad get on in Wales for the gig?

Were they strict with the vaccine passport thing?
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,603
JAM See said:
@clint van damme

How did you lad get on in Wales for the gig?

Were they strict with the vaccine passport thing?
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got checked going in as @Terry_dactyl said. Worth getting everything in order for anyone going on Boxing day.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,604
Skybluefaz said:
Fair play Saj. He makes Hancock look like, well Matt Hancock.

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....although actually it appears hes dropped a bit of a bollock as the drop in centres are keeping to the strict 6 month gap....if you want it earlier you have to use booking system.

So....more mixed messages
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,605
Kieranp96 said:
Haven't booked in, so realisticly they shouldn't even allocate me one, and it looks like i will get my 3rd here in hungsry anyway..
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Will that be Sputnik?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,606
From tomorrow I can book my booster - there has to be some kind of insights they got around this new strain that’s made them so edgy, surely?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,607
Sick Boy said:
From tomorrow I can book my booster - there has to be some kind of insights they got around this new strain that’s made them so edgy, surely?
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I think it's trying to avoid heavy restrictions at all costs tbh as they are not politically tenable nor likely to be adhered to
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,608
fernandopartridge said:
I think it's trying to avoid heavy restrictions at all costs tbh as they are not politically tenable nor likely to be adhered to
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I'm not convinced the haste to push them through will convince people who are dubious in the first place, mind. We can see as much in this thread!

I dunno, currently we don't know if it can evade vaccines (although Moderna said it was pretty likely it would) and we don't know how serious it is (cases currently mild, but have been in young people so maybe distorted) but, if it evades vaccines anyway, and is weaker than the current, then pushing the younger people to three months seems counter-intuitive. If it were the older lot, I'd understand more!
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,609
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'm not convinced the haste to push them through will convince people who are dubious in the first place, mind. We can see as much in this thread!

I dunno, currently we don't know if it can evade vaccines (although Moderna said it was pretty likely it would) and we don't know how serious it is (cases currently mild, but have been in young people so maybe distorted) but, if it evades vaccines anyway, and is weaker than the current, then pushing the younger people to three months seems counter-intuitive. If it were the older lot, I'd understand more!
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Or even those who were never dubious originally.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,610
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,611
fernandopartridge said:
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It’s just shocking
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,612
fernandopartridge said:
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Spoke to my sister this morning and she said a mid fifties anti vaxxer came in to her ward laughing and smiling not believing he had the virus and within 24 hours he was gone.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,613
Sick Boy said:
Will that be Sputnik?
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Hell no , moderna since my first two were pfizer, my misses is going to get hers done aswell, also 2 pfizer x1 moderna.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,614
Isn’t the Sputnik just the Oxford vaccine?
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,615
skybluetony176 said:
Isn’t the Sputnik just the Oxford vaccine?
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I think they're based on the same thing, just like moderna and pfizer b7t there is slight diffrences.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,616
Kieranp96 said:
I think they're based on the same thing, just like moderna and pfizer b7t there is slight diffrences.
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Thought I read somewhere that through Russian espionage they acquired the blueprints for the Oxford vaccine and copied it calling it Sputnik.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,617
skybluetony176 said:
Thought I read somewhere that through Russian espionage they acquired the blueprints for the Oxford vaccine and copied it calling it Sputnik.
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Its a possibility, but they wont ever admit that, so lets stick with its similar and avoid the conspiricies
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 30, 2021
  • #53,618
skybluetony176 said:
Thought I read somewhere that through Russian espionage they acquired the blueprints for the Oxford vaccine and copied it calling it Sputnik.
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You're not still following all those FBPE Russian conspiracy morons are you?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 1, 2021
  • #53,619
fernandopartridge said:
You're not still following all those FBPE Russian conspiracy morons are you?
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It was GCHQ who said there’d been repeated Russian attempts on vaccine makers.

Sorry - the page you're looking for has been removed

The contents were out of date or replaced, but you can still access the information via The National Archives website. Details how to do this below.
www.ncsc.gov.uk
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 1, 2021
  • #53,620
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
....although actually it appears hes dropped a bit of a bollock as the drop in centres are keeping to the strict 6 month gap....if you want it earlier you have to use booking system.

So....more mixed messages
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I didn’t was only a few days though
 
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