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stevefloyd

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  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,251
Anyone on here got it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,252
Coventry bars 'blitz mentality' as big relaunch hit by virus

Just about to open as well.

There are going to be thousands of places like this over the country that go out of business.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,253
stevefloyd said:
Anyone on here got it?
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Yep, oh wait you weren't talking about herpes
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,254
fernandopartridge said:
It isn't planning, it's crisis commissioning. Planning would be having spare capacity within the NHS.
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I've been having some pretty serious treatment over the past couple of years at various NHS sites
Every letter begs you to attend and says it costs the NHS £167 per missed visit
So many users don't bother coming as they put their own convenience ahead of the pressure their missed appointments put on the staff
You see patients in gowns outside the hospital in wheelchairs smoking a fag while holding up a mobile drip
Others at A&E turning up with period pain or wanting paracetamol for a headache
They are usually the same individuals who abuse the doctors and nurses when it's explained that this is not what A&E is for
The NHS is fantastic but when you spend time on the inside it's an eye opener
That's why I don't see it as a political issue
Whichever party is in power won't change some people's behaviour
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,255
Nick said:
Coventry bars 'blitz mentality' as big relaunch hit by virus

Just about to open as well.

There are going to be thousands of places like this over the country that go out of business.
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That needn't be the case but the government support packages focus on those that need it least, they're protecting faceless shareholders, e.g. hedge and private equity funds.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,256
better days said:
I've been having some pretty serious treatment over the past couple of years at various NHS sites
Every letter begs you to attend and says it costs the NHS £167 per missed visit
So many users don't bother coming as they put their own convenience ahead of the pressure their missed appointments put on the staff
You see patients in gowns outside the hospital in wheelchairs smoking a fag while holding up a mobile drip
Others at A&E turning up with period pain or wanting paracetamol for a headache
They are usually the same individuals who abuse the doctors and nurses when it's explained that this is not what A&E is for
The NHS is fantastic but when you spend time on the inside it's an eye opener
That's why I don't see it as a political issue
Whichever party is in power won't change some people's behaviour
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Yeah, commissioners i speak to often float the idea of charging for missed appointments, but in the end all it means is another member of staff at least to manage it all
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,257
I hope on April 1st the world leaders admit this was all a hoax....
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,258
better days said:
I've been having some pretty serious treatment over the past couple of years at various NHS sites
Every letter begs you to attend and says it costs the NHS £167 per missed visit
So many users don't bother coming as they put their own convenience ahead of the pressure their missed appointments put on the staff
You see patients in gowns outside the hospital in wheelchairs smoking a fag while holding up a mobile drip
Others at A&E turning up with period pain or wanting paracetamol for a headache
They are usually the same individuals who abuse the doctors and nurses when it's explained that this is not what A&E is for
The NHS is fantastic but when you spend time on the inside it's an eye opener
That's why I don't see it as a political issue
Whichever party is in power won't change some people's behaviour
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,259
fernandopartridge said:
That needn't be the case but the government support packages focus on those that need it least, they're protecting faceless shareholders, e.g. hedge and private equity funds.
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Exactly, then if funding is available for people like this it will take an application and months to come through.
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,260
shmmeee said:
View attachment 14506

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I see the biggest increase was under Blair & Brown
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,261
Temporary UBI really is the only sensible action. Claw it back later through the tax and benefits systems if you’re worried about people who don’t “deserve” it having it. Frankly having too much demand is not going to be a problem right now.

Anything else requires complex applications and management that just aren’t realistic when it’s an immediate issue.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,262
Nick said:
Yeah but with a Kindle you could tell me the email address for it and I can send books over to you

I have all of Mills and Boon.
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Tempting


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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,263
Ring Of Steel said:
So it turns out Tim Martin is asking his staff to distribute leaflets in Wetherspoon pubs which goes directly against WHO guidelines saying there should be no lockdown, refers back to herd immunity, justifies it by talking about finances & the Dutch position (where all pubs are closed), and finishes off by slagging off France.

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But it uses the word “appendix” several times so must be a thorough and scientific analysis of the situation.


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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,264
better days said:
I see the biggest increase was under Blair & Brown
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Yep, and the highest satisfaction, lowest waiting time’s, etc etc etc. The fact is the quality of NHS you get is directly tied to the level of funding it gets. Anything else is small potatoes. The Andrew Lansley reforms didn’t help either.

That’s why it’s political. Tories always try and cut corners so they can offer their mates tax breaks and spin the “missed appointments” or “ageing population” line as an excuse when quality drops off a cliff. They’re drops in the ocean compared to real terms government funding changes. Same in education TBH. Farting about with governance changes and curriculum when the fact is resource is what gets results. We either value this stuff and pay for it or we don’t.
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,265
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Have you seen the size of some of those text books? And you had to take in about three different ones a day. I walked to and from school (two/three miles e/w) from the age of 13 and twice a week had full PE kit/boots etc as well. At uni I travelled and it was a couple of miles round trip from the station everyday and those bastards were really heavy.

At the time I did it no problem, but it's coming back to bite me on the arse now I'm getting a bit older. Fair enough some of the damage is cos I slung the rucksack over one shoulder instead of both (which prob also contributed to the tilted pelvis) but it was pretty heavy stuff for a small kid to be lugging around.
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Should have been two strapping bro.


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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,266
Ring Of Steel said:
So it turns out Tim Martin is asking his staff to distribute leaflets in Wetherspoon pubs which goes directly against WHO guidelines saying there should be no lockdown, refers back to herd immunity, justifies it by talking about finances & the Dutch position (where all pubs are closed), and finishes off by slagging off France.

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What an utter utter scumbag Brexit tramp he is.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,267
djr8369 said:
But it uses the word “appendix” several times so must be a thorough and scientific analysis of the situation.


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It's a citation not an appendix, the silly c**t.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,268
fernandopartridge said:
It's a citation not an appendix, the silly c**t.
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It’s almost like it’s there just to sound clever


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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,269
usskyblue said:
Yes m8

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Thanks US lol
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,270
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
From today I’m in self isolation for the next 12 weeks due to various health issues and because one of the pharmaceuticals I take reduces my immune system.
On Wednesday all staff were risk assessed within an hour of me telling them that my doctor had told me to self isolate a meeting was held with just the staff and we were told that instead of full sick pay we would be getting statutory sick pay if anything to do with Coronavirus. I’m not bothered I would rather be alive. I’m ok for money during this period however how wold others cope not as fortunate as I am on 90 odd pounds a week for 3 months. Also my period ends just as the peak of this epidemic is due what then, another 3 months?
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That is shit.

The company I work for has told us we have to self isolate if we have anything at all like a sore throat. The same if we have come into contact with anyone who has had symptoms. One person has been told to stay off because their father went around their house while they were on holiday. He had himself just got back from Italy but had no symptoms. There was no contact between them. But he had touched things in the house.

We are.on full pay whatever the reason.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,271
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
From today I’m in self isolation for the next 12 weeks due to various health issues and because one of the pharmaceuticals I take reduces my immune system.
On Wednesday all staff were risk assessed within an hour of me telling them that my doctor had told me to self isolate a meeting was held with just the staff and we were told that instead of full sick pay we would be getting statutory sick pay if anything to do with Coronavirus. I’m not bothered I would rather be alive. I’m ok for money during this period however how wold others cope not as fortunate as I am on 90 odd pounds a week for 3 months. Also my period ends just as the peak of this epidemic is due what then, another 3 months?
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All the best to you. There are some pretty unscrupulous employers about.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,272
Someone really needs to be making a list of good and bad corporate responses to this.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,273
Johnson telling bars, cafes, restaurants they have to close but can provide takeaway.

Nightclubs, gyms, leisure centres, and theatres closing too
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,274
Worries me when he says "We will review the situation each month"...
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,275
Finally he shuts down the pubs and bars.

I'm sure the clowns on here who were happy to continue going are pleased to hear this.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,276
Oh no! He’s shut the gym! Just as I was about to start going. Dammit.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,277
Going to pay 80% of people's wages.
 
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Astute

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  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,278
PVA said:
The irony is that the people who don't want total lockdown are the ones that are going to cause it by going to non essential situations and exacerbating the spread.
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And still you only see what you want to see.

Look.at people like Ferret. No income if no work. Or SSP for millions if they don't have a decent employer. Live in a bedsit? Them 4 walls are your life. No garden? No fresh air. Elderly single people not allowed visitors.

I could go on.

But it is going to happen because people won't follow rules as set out.

I don't want it to happen. My wife and 3 youngest kids are living under it now. They have a good lifestyle. The weather is decent....in the low 20's recently. But it still isn't easy. And has only been 6 days so far.
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,279
We had an email yesterday saying they were binning off full sick pay and going to ssp if you had to self isolate. New email from the MD today. Full sick pay including people who need to quarantine for 12 weeks. And we have all been classed as key workers.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,280
Nick said:
Going to pay 80% of people's wages.
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Well done for that
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,281
Nick said:
Going to pay 80% of people's wages.
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Still going to depress demand

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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,282
fernandopartridge said:
Well done for that
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You're welcome!
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,283
These truly are scary/extraordinary times

The job retention scheme appears sensible by the sounds of it. Better than job losses and paying redundancy/notice/job seekers (then lag to economy of reemployment). I just hope people don’t take the piss this as this going to cost us all for a long time to come (but right under the circumstances)
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,284
Nick said:
Worries me when he says "We will review the situation each month"...
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to be fair it would be mad to set a course now and not look at changing it as the situation develops.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #5,285
hill83 said:
We had an email yesterday saying they were binning off full sick pay and going to ssp if you had to self isolate. New email from the MD today. Full sick pay including people who need to quarantine for 12 weeks. And we have all been classed as key workers.
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12 weeks off with full pay.

I think I'd be in A and E with blistered hands.
 
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