Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (19 Viewers)

Wyken Sky Blue · Nov 13, 2021

Whilst the cases and deaths in Europe during the summer were low compared to the UK, they are seemingly on the uprise and as per post above there are partial lockdowns.

Do we think that we as a country have achieved heard immunity and therefore the current rate of deaths will remain constant between now and early next year?

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Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 13, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
Whilst the cases and deaths in Europe during the summer were low compared to the UK, they are seemingly on the uprise and as per post above there are partial lockdowns.

Do we think that we as a country have achieved heard immunity and therefore the current rate of deaths will remain constant between now and early next year?

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If you add on the number of unvaccinated who get infected to the number of fully vaccinated you’ve got a better measure of general ‘protection’ at the moment.

Sick Boy · Nov 13, 2021

Grendel said:
So Netherlands enter a partial lockdown

Austria are effectively putting non vaccinated people in a severe lockdown and Germany considering extra restrictions on non vaccinated people

I can’t say I support any of it but these things have a habit of spreading round - if it has to be I’d rather the non vaccinated are targeted not the majority

It’s essentially what the covid passes do.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 13, 2021

Sick Boy said:
It’s essentially what the covid passes do.

Covid passes aren't used for going outside for anything other than exercise or buying food as will be the case in Austria

Grendel · Nov 13, 2021

Sick Boy said:
It’s essentially what the covid passes do.

Austria and to a certain extent Germany are going to change policy and effectively ignore passes - France are pretty much going to do the same on boosters for over 65 by restricting travel unless they have it

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Nov 13, 2021

Grendel said:
So Netherlands enter a partial lockdown

Austria are effectively putting non vaccinated people in a severe lockdown and Germany considering extra restrictions on non vaccinated people

I can’t say I support any of it but these things have a habit of spreading round - if it has to be I’d rather the non vaccinated are targeted not the majority

Do you know the figures on how many are unvaccinated here? It isn't many.

This isn't going away.

shmmeee · Nov 13, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Do you know the figures on how many are unvaccinated here? It isn't many.

This isn't going away.

About 22% all in. That includes kids and those that aren’t eligible/can’t get vaccinated but that’s irrelevant if we’re looking at herd immunity.

Define “going away”. A future where it has little impact is within sight. Get enough vaccinated and keep the boosters up and add in the antivirals that are coming to market and it won’t be something we need restrictions for really.

Grendel · Nov 13, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Do you know the figures on how many are unvaccinated here? It isn't many.

This isn't going away.

73% so I assume around 82% over 12

Wyken Sky Blue · Nov 14, 2021

This is a good graph from the BBC news website. Surely this proves those that aren't jabbed the risk of death is much higher if you haven't been vaccinated, particularly if you're 60+

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Grendel · Nov 14, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
This is a good graph from the BBC news website. Surely this proves those that aren't jabbed the risk of death is much higher if you haven't been vaccinated, particularly if you're 60+

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Also under 70 with the vaccine you are extremely unlikely to die

wingy · Nov 14, 2021

Well I guess it is shifting sands as there will always be people crossing the threshold into a more advanced age group but you'd think it will run out of targets.
I mean how many over seventies are there? 8M?

9.6K likely victims over that snapshot?

Sick Boy · Nov 14, 2021

Anyone on here had a booster yet? Those I know who’ve had theirs have all been hit with pretty strong symptoms this time around.

skybluetony176 · Nov 14, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Anyone on here had a booster yet? Those I know who’ve had theirs have all been hit with pretty strong symptoms this time around.

Had mine a couple of weeks ago. Aches and headache for a few days, just took paracetamol and was OK.

Deleted member 9744 · Nov 14, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Anyone on here had a booster yet? Those I know who’ve had theirs have all been hit with pretty strong symptoms this time around.

I've had it and no symptoms at all.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 14, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Anyone on here had a booster yet? Those I know who’ve had theirs have all been hit with pretty strong symptoms this time around.

Mrs Wisdom had hers. tbh the biggest challenge was the inept admin of her doctor's! She got a rash for a day which may or may not have been related, but no side effects other than that. My Dad had zero side effects - so much so I wouldn't believe he'd had it, and forced him to show me his NHS record!

LastGarrison · Nov 14, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Anyone on here had a booster yet? Those I know who’ve had theirs have all been hit with pretty strong symptoms this time around.

My Old Man had it and had no symptoms at all.

chiefdave · Nov 14, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Anyone on here had a booster yet? Those I know who’ve had theirs have all been hit with pretty strong symptoms this time around.

Had mine. Felt a bit rough for a couple of days but not too bad, didn’t keep me off work or anything like that.

LastGarrison · Nov 14, 2021

Can I add at this point that drinking vodka in your house when you have no taste or smell is dangerous.

Written from his bed at 3pm.

Ian1779 · Nov 14, 2021

On a lighter note…

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Nov 14, 2021

Austria looks down the unvaccinated. It's like Hitler never left.

I'm not sure how anyone can be alright with that. Shame on them.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 14, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Austria looks down the unvaccinated. It's like Hitler never left.

I'm not sure how anyone can be alright with that. Shame on them.

This is up there with one of the most ridiculous statements made on here, and that's some achievement.

Grendel · Nov 14, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Austria looks down the unvaccinated. It's like Hitler never left.

I'm not sure how anyone can be alright with that. Shame on them.

Hitler!

clint van damme · Nov 14, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Austria looks down the unvaccinated. It's like Hitler never left.

I'm not sure how anyone can be alright with that. Shame on them.

I disagree with it. But comparing it to the Nazis is nonsense, like those daft unvaccinated cunts in the States wearing yellow stars.

None of this is remotely like the murder of million Jews and other minotities.

Grendel · Nov 14, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is up there with one of the most ridiculous statements made on here, and that's some achievement.

It’s a trait - I’ve seen apartheid as well.

The irony is the people who protest are the very ones who stand in the way of a return to normal by not pushing for 100% take up

Sick Boy · Nov 14, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Austria looks down the unvaccinated. It's like Hitler never left.

I'm not sure how anyone can be alright with that. Shame on them.

In no way is it comparable and that statement is beyond crass.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Nov 14, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is up there with one of the most ridiculous statements made on here, and that's some achievement.

clint van damme said:
I disagree with it. But comparing it to the Nazis is nonsense, like those daft unvaccinated cunts in the States wearing yellow stars.

None of this is remotely like the murder of million Jews and other minotities.

I am not comparing it to the death of a million jews. I am comparing it to the segregation and apartheid that started it all. The link being Austria in both cases.

It is scary and shameful, and frankly anyone that agrees with it should be ashamed of themselves.

Grendel · Nov 14, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I am not comparing it to the death of a million jews. I am comparing it to the segregation and apartheid that started it all. The link being Austria in both cases.

It is scary and shameful, and frankly anyone that agrees with it should be ashamed of themselves.

Apartheid - bingo!

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Nov 14, 2021

Sick Boy said:
In no way is it comparable and that statement is beyond crass.

Exactly the kind of response I thought I would get.

Where my comment is worse than this disgraceful policy.

Sick Boy · Nov 14, 2021

Grendel said:
It’s a trait - I’ve seen apartheid as well.

The irony is the people who protest are the very ones who stand in the way of a return to normal by not pushing for 100% take up

The protest in Trieste has led to a major outbreak in the region of Friuli Venezia Giulia and it’s likely to be going back into having restrictions imposed.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Nov 14, 2021

Grendel said:
Apartheid - bingo!

Disgrace.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 14, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I am not comparing it to the death of a million jews. I am comparing it to the segregation and apartheid that started it all. The link being Austria in both cases.

It is scary and shameful, and frankly anyone that agrees with it should be ashamed of themselves.

Still nowhere near comparable, that was discrimination based on race and nothing else. Really disappointed to see you sticking with it mate

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Nov 14, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Still nowhere near comparable, that was discrimination based on race and nothing else. Really disappointed to see you sticking with it mate

Really disappointing to see you apologise for such a policy.

Sick Boy · Nov 14, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Exactly the kind of response I thought I would get.

Where my comment is worse than this disgraceful policy.

You’re comparing a man who ordered the murder of millions of people to a policy aimed at those refusing to get vaccinated for the greater good in a global pandemic.
Get some perspective.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 14, 2021

Grendel said:
It’s a trait - I’ve seen apartheid as well.

The irony is the people who protest are the very ones who stand in the way of a return to normal by not pushing for 100% take up

The best comment I saw throughout this was

'Is it just a coincidence that it's the unvaccinated who are dying and going to hospital?'

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 14, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Really disappointing to see you apologise for such a policy.

I don't agree with the policy. I just don't think it's remotely comparable to the Nuremberg Laws.

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