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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,561
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep what was the plan???
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What’s he getting at though- is he saying another lockdown is on the way?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,562
wingy said:
"Tony Blair warns 10MILLION people will be isolated in pingdemic by August 16" Tony Blair warns 10MILLION people will be isolated in pingdemic
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Here he is again - I’m sure his latest ‘intervention’ is in no way related to his obsession with ID cards… or as he called in this piece ‘vaccine passports’
 

shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,563
TM8792 said:
I feel like I've bit hit by a few bricks after jibbing in Wembley last Sunday. COVID, you win.
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If you are serious about this you deserve it mate.
Reckless and ridiculous behaviour.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,564
TM8792 said:
I feel like I've bit hit by a few bricks after jibbing in Wembley last Sunday. COVID, you win.
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You’re not alone by the sounds of it

Swathes of England fans report coming down with 'Wembley variant' after Euro 2020 final

One fan said he knew of people who had tested positive for the virus and gone to the match regardless
inews.co.uk
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,565
COV said:
What’s he getting at though- is he saying another lockdown is on the way?
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It’s inevitable that there will be some form of lockdown in European countries in autumn and winter. (That includes the UK for those who somehow don’t see it as European).
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,566
Sick Boy said:
It’s inevitable that there will be some form of lockdown in European countries in autumn and winter. (That includes the UK for those who somehow don’t see it as European).
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To what end though?

Makes sense while you’re waiting for a vaccine. If that’s not going to prevent lockdown, what will?
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,567
It’sabatch87 said:
What goes through these politicians heads?
Absolutely brainless!!
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Muddying the waters for everyone does not help at all
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,568
skybluetony176 said:
Beep beep beep. This bad idea is reversing

Covid-19: PM and chancellor self-isolate after rapid U-turn

It comes after anger over "VIP testing" allowing them to work following Sajid Javid's positive test.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Could they, just once, make the right decision first time.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,569
I can't believe anybody of a non tory persuasion isn't turning the "lockdown is necessary to protect the NHS" into "investment in the NHS and all public services is necessary to protect everybody and avoid lockdown"
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,570
fernandopartridge said:
I can't believe anybody of a non tory persuasion isn't turning the "lockdown is necessary to protect the NHS" into "investment in the NHS and all public services is necessary to protect everybody and avoid lockdown"
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Unfortunately there’s minimal chance of it happening.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,571
shmmeee said:
To what end though?

Makes sense while you’re waiting for a vaccine. If that’s not going to prevent lockdown, what will?
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Sorry, I meant restrictions as opposed to a full lockdown.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,572
Well Boris has got ten day's of Chequers in the sun

Dare say he'll Knock out another one while he's there......



A book that is!!
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,573
fernandopartridge said:
I can't believe anybody of a non tory persuasion isn't turning the "lockdown is necessary to protect the NHS" into "investment in the NHS and all public services is necessary to protect everybody and avoid lockdown"
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Instead the pandemic is seemingly being weaponised by the Tories to say "NHS isn't fit for purpose" so they will force through the Health and Care Bill & essentially begin flogging it off as has always been their aim.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,574
Anyone numerate enough to run the calcs if it's at all possible to measure if the vaccines efficacy of circa 60% stacks up to a similar level re onward transmission ?
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,575
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I've also lived in four countries, not three, but I don't really count the USA because the amount of acclimatisation needed is so insignificant comparatively.

Where do you live again?
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OMG, tell me more mr travel pants. How many stamps have you got in your passport? What’s your favourite plane?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,576
hill83 said:
OMG, tell me more mr travel pants. How many stamps have you got in your passport? What’s your favourite plane?
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,577
wingy said:
Anyone numerate enough to run the calcs if it's at all possible to measure if the vaccines efficacy of circa 60% stacks up to a similar level re onward transmission ?
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I’m not poo-pooing what you’re doing at all so don’t take it that way, but what do you gain from all these complicated calculations?

You’re either gonna get it or you aren’t, and if you’re vaccinated you’re probably gonna be ok even if you do get it
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,578
COV said:
I’m not poo-pooing what you’re doing at all so don’t take it that way, but what do you gain from all these complicated calculations?

You’re either gonna get it or you aren’t, and if you’re vaccinated you’re probably gonna be ok even if you do get it
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So it’s a 50/50 chance like the lottery then.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,579
shmmeee said:
To what end though?

Makes sense while you’re waiting for a vaccine. If that’s not going to prevent lockdown, what will?
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The end would be, surely, the natural immunity in people to build up, and / or the nice weak transmittable strain to pop along, asking with the anti viral drugs?

(As an aside lockdown and restrictions end up interchangeable, not necessarily from you in this instance, but there's a big difference between not being allowed to leave your house and total freedom, with many stages in between. Worth noting 'normality' doesn't hit total freedom anyway)
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,580
COV said:
I’m not poo-pooing what you’re doing at all so don’t take it that way, but what do you gain from all these complicated calculations?

You’re either gonna get it or you aren’t, and if you’re vaccinated you’re probably gonna be ok even if you do get it
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I just want to make some sense of the efficacy claims from studies to real world for instance Pfizer in Israel produced real world figures on transmission that closely matched the efficacy in trials of close to 95% ,so just trying to see if ours comes out at around 60-65%.
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,581
wingy said:
I just want to make some sense of the efficacy claims from studies to real world for instance Pfizer in Israel produced real world figures on transmission that closely matched the efficacy in trials of close to 95% ,so just trying to see if ours comes out at around 60-65%.
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Fair enough

Only thing I know about the Pfizer is that it made me feel like crap for 3 days
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,582
Deleted member 5849 said:
The end would be, surely, the natural immunity in people to build up, and / or the nice weak transmittable strain to pop along, asking with the anti viral drugs?

(As an aside lockdown and restrictions end up interchangeable, not necessarily from you in this instance, but there's a big difference between not being allowed to leave your house and total freedom, with many stages in between. Worth noting 'normality' doesn't hit total freedom anyway)
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Yeah sorry when I say lockdown I mean what we did March 2020, not what we’ve got now.

As for restrictions, I’d like to see masks in public communal areas but considering we haven’t even hit “freedom day” and I’m already the odd one out when I wear a mask in shops I can’t see that sticking.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,583
SBT said:
You’ve posted one travel rule, for one country, which came into effect after you traveled, and applies to a country which, depending on your itinerary, you may not even have been classed as an “arrival” in, but anyway, I’m terribly sorry for not interrupting my weekend sooner. In fairness, me and everyone else who found your post funny didn’t realise we were talking to a modern day Magellan. Hopefully we can all recover. But thanks for the tag!
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You are completely wrong again.

You would think after one strike you would stop. At least one or two people that jumped on originally had the guts to semi-correct themselves.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,584
COV said:
You have to be the most overly defensive & easily offended person on here
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I had five people jump down my throat about a post I made which was trying to be helpful. Not only that but the counter arguments were completely incorrect.

The same people doing it and liking each others posts are the ones that preach on the mental health thread too. There really is no need.
 
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,585
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I had five people jump down my throat about a post I made which was trying to be helpful. Not only that but the counter arguments were completely incorrect.

The same people doing it and liking each others posts are the ones that preach on the mental health thread too. There really is no need.
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How was it helpful?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,586
COV said:
How was it helpful?
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Why are you still carrying on? This persistence just fuels the rumours that you are Ring of Steel because it was exactly the same there.

There are many nervous people on this thread, and many people that have not seen family members for a very long time. Given that many of them didn't know the rules for crossing borders, I thought sharing my story at the very least would paint a picture of what's going on within the continent. As I said, I was surprised at the lack of checks considering and thought that would at least be interesting to some.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,587
Everyone’s taking the heat well then
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,588
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I had five people jump down my throat about a post I made which was trying to be helpful. Not only that but the counter arguments were completely incorrect.

The same people doing it and liking each others posts are the ones that preach on the mental health thread too. There really is no need.
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You’ve got either a complete lack of self awareness or a selective memory. “Lockdown lover” and people being “triggered” a few weeks ago in here from you wasn’t it? Questioning people suggesting they had mental health issues in regards to this whole pandemic as well wasn’t it?

The fucking cheek of bringing up the mental health thread.

Sorry for my joke about guilders pal.
And to quote yourself. Stop playing the victim.
 
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,589
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Why are you still carrying on? This persistence just fuels the rumours that you are Ring of Steel because it was exactly the same there.

There are many nervous people on this thread, and many people that have not seen family members for a very long time. Given that many of them didn't know the rules for crossing borders, I thought sharing my story at the very least would paint a picture of what's going on within the continent. As I said, I was surprised at the lack of checks considering and thought that would at least be interesting to some.
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The way you switch directions from hinting at conspiracies to “I’m only trying to help all the nervous people on here”- it’s a bit disturbing tbh
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,590
COV said:
The way you switch directions from hinting at conspiracies to “I’m only trying to help all the nervous people on here”- it’s a bit disturbing tbh
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Hello the nervous?!? Fucking hell, really?!?
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,591
And for what it’s worth if you are ever in a situation where 5 people are ‘jumping on’ what you are saying have a little look closer to home.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,592
hill83 said:
You’ve got either a complete lack of self awareness or a selective memory. “Lockdown lover” and people being “triggered” a few weeks ago in here from you wasn’t it? Questioning people suggesting they had mental health issues in regards to this whole pandemic as well wasn’t it?

The fucking cheek of bringing up the mental health thread.

Sorry for my joke about guilders pal.
And to quote yourself. Stop playing the victim.
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Actually, unlike many on here, I decided to try and be a bit more respectful towards people who had different views to me following the understanding that some of the things I said upset people.

That doesn't mean I regret saying everything of what I said, as @Deleted member 5849 in particular showed his true colours in terms of how nasty he is as a person. Some of the insults that came from there were disgusting. That was a real fine example of playing the victim too. Now he decides to block me but like absolutely any post which goes against me. I think that is a bit cowardly, as are the people who jump on the pile on when they don't even know the facts of what I was talking about. That goes for you too, with the sarcastic comments. There is no need. Maybe instead of jumping on the pile on you should have a bit more respect as well. When you were going through a hard time I don't remember me being anything other than supportive towards you.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,593
COV said:
The way you switch directions from hinting at conspiracies to “I’m only trying to help all the nervous people on here”- it’s a bit disturbing tbh
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You are calling me disturbing?

You are the one that made a new account because you got hounded off your old one.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,594
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That doesn't mean I regret saying everything of what I said, as @Deleted member 5849 in particular showed his true colours in terms of how nasty he is as a person.
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No, I called you a c**t because you're a c**t.

And a prick.

You don't see what's in front of your face do you, you absolute bellend.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #49,595
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Actually, unlike many on here, I decided to try and be a bit more respectful towards people who had different views to me following the understanding that some of the things I said upset people.

That doesn't mean I regret saying everything of what I said, as @Deleted member 5849 in particular showed his true colours in terms of how nasty he is as a person. Some of the insults that came from there were disgusting. That was a real fine example of playing the victim too. Now he decides to block me but like absolutely any post which goes against me. I think that is a bit cowardly, as are the people who jump on the pile on when they don't even know the facts of what I was talking about. That goes for you too, with the sarcastic comments. There is no need. Maybe instead of jumping on the pile on you should have a bit more respect as well. When you were going through a hard time I don't remember me being anything other than supportive towards you.
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I live for sarcasm. You aren’t wriggling out of the mental health when it suits though.

Thanks for the support to be fair.
 
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