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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,831
shmmeee said:
Yeah that’s exactly it. Most people’s decisions are gut based and backwards rationalised. First do they like them second everything else. That’s why the Tories focus on that and pulling out specific quotes or details doesn’t touch the sides.

And people like positive people who don’t make out that the average British person is a racist sexist stupid c**t.
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Beat me to it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,832
CCFCSteve said:
This is spot on. Whether it’s BS or not at least Johnson will say he’s on the side of the working class and is listening. All the working class hear (some perceived, some actual) from labour/left is that they are thick and racist, when they are mostly patriotic and just worrried about themselves/their families futures

*if there isn’t attempts to level up by next election think the tide might turn a bit but not sure enough
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And yet in Wales and Scotland at least voters seem to be choosing substance over personalities. Plus in a few pockets of England but not many
 

SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,833
David O'Day said:
How have the Conservatives made your life better?
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I’ve only ever known Tory governments in my working life including Tory light Blair.
I’m mid fifties own my house now no mortgage,
Kids at work doing well so I’ve done ok tbh.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,834
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And yet in Wales and Scotland at least voters seem to be choosing substance over personalities. Plus in a few pockets of England but not many
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Wales has always been Labour and the Tory vote has grown over time as it has In Scotland
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,835
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And yet in Wales and Scotland at least voters seem to be choosing substance over personalities. Plus in a few pockets of England but not many
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Hmmm, not too sure about that BSB. By all accounts the SNP haven’t been delivering but remain in power mainly due to the nationalist rhetoric (so not dissimilar to here) whilst gladly throwing around UKs cash. Got to be honest, I don’t know enough about Wales to really comment about performance
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,836
shmmeee said:
No. That’s lazy and childish and let’s the actual cunts off the hook. There’s a reason that the quality of MP has gone through the flow since the expenses scandal and general lack of trust in MPs has gone b
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Nicks right in a sense though Shmmeee, that’s what the public sees. Said before both main parties have focussed too much inwardly for years rather than delivering for the country...battles between leave/remain (both parties), far left/centre (labour) have left us with substandard front benches on both sides. This means the government can be shit and get away with it. The country deserves better
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,837
Right.


This is the crucial information we all needed to know

Lets crack on
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,838
Shit, forgot this was Covid thread . Apologies
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,839
Saddlebrains said:
Right.


This is the crucial information we all needed to know
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Lets crack on
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City Arms at 12
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,840
CCFCSteve said:
Hmmm, not too sure about that BSB. By all accounts the SNP haven’t been delivering but remain in power mainly due to the nationalist rhetoric (so not dissimilar to here) whilst gladly throwing around UKs cash. Got to be honest, I don’t know enough about Wales to really comment about performance
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He’s always fixated about local elections - in wales there was no ground gained or lost by either party really but Tories made significant gains against Labour in 2019
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,841
CCFCSteve said:
Hmmm, not too sure about that BSB. By all accounts the SNP haven’t been delivering but remain in power mainly due to the nationalist rhetoric (so not dissimilar to here) whilst gladly throwing around UKs cash. Got to be honest, I don’t know enough about Wales to really comment about performance
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The SNP also offer a policy platform which I like about 95% of except for the support for independence which would be an immediate deal breaker. In Wales Mark Drakeford has the charisma of shrivelled cabbage but was widely recognised as having handled COVID especially well even by his opponents.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,842
Grendel said:
Wales has always been Labour and the Tory vote has grown over time as it has In Scotland
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Pre 2017 the Tories had one Scottish MP and owe their increase in support almost exclusively to the post 2014 Labour crash
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,843
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The SNP also offer a policy platform which I like about 95% of except for the support for independence which would be an immediate deal breaker. In Wales Mark Drakeford has the charisma of shrivelled cabbage but was widely recognised as having handled COVID especially well even by his opponents.
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Either nation will not have done everything independently of England but is there anything in the way they administer to their regions that is different to here.
I'm thinking say committees,quango's, civil servants etc.
 

ovduk78

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,844
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Pre 2017 the Tories had one Scottish MP and owe their increase in support almost exclusively to the post 2014 Labour crash
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The Tories have also benefited in Scotland by supporting the union so a lot of labour voting unionists have switched sides.
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,845
hill83 said:
City Arms at 12
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Sounds really fucking tempting
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,846
Nick said:
Anybody think all mps are pricks regardless of party?
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Nope but that’s what the Mail and others want you to believe.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,847
Let’s open first jabs to 18+ pronto and get this done
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,848
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Let’s open first jabs to 18+ pronto and get this done
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They’ve opened up jabs to all over 12s here now, it’s probably the first good move they’ve made with the roll out.
It seems like June and July will see them smash through millions of jabs, finalmente!
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,849
Grendel said:
One assumes carweasel is the Sinn Fein suck up Corbyn

Starmers middle name it seems is Rodney hence the Dave joke
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Joke?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,850
Deleted member 9744 said:
Joke?
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In only fools and horses Rodney the Plonker was called Dave by Trigger all the time
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,851
Sick Boy said:
They’ve opened up jabs to all over 12s here now, it’s probably the first good move they’ve made with the roll out.
It seems like June and July will see them smash through millions of jabs, finalmente!
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As it stands the only unvaccinated attendee to our wedding is the bride
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,852
Ian1779 said:
Like the guy who blamed the locally and nationally imposed austerity measures not on the government that delivered them but the local MP that was powerless to stop them?

There is a lot to criticise Labour for... but peddling lies seems to be the standard Tory tactic.
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It's incredible people in places like Hartlepool complaining that they have been left behind and saying that is Labour's fault even though they haven't been in power for 10 years. How the Tories who are responsible for all the austerity get away with this is incredible. I guess the people of Hartlepool think as they had a Labour MP somehow Labour was in power.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,853
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Let’s open first jabs to 18+ pronto and get this done
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Think it’s over 25s next week. I agree with you though, not sure it’s worth the additional staggering/phasing at this stage
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,854
Nick said:
Anybody think all mps are pricks regardless of party?
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No. Many are but certainly not all.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,855
CCFCSteve said:
Think it’s over 25s next week. I agree with you though, not sure it’s worth the additional staggering/phasing at this stage
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Yes it’s over 25’s from next week
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,856
CCFCSteve said:
Think it’s over 25s next week. I agree with you though, not sure it’s worth the additional staggering/phasing at this stage
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In some regions in Italy they’ve started to prioritise 18 and 19 year olds ahead of the exams. I think the idea with opening it up to children is to ensure that by the time school starts in September a lot are going to be vaccinated.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,857
Sick Boy said:
They’ve opened up jabs to all over 12s here now, it’s probably the first good move they’ve made with the roll out.
It seems like June and July will see them smash through millions of jabs, finalmente!
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So our vaccine rollout isn't so world beating after all. What a surprise
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,858
CCFCSteve said:
Think it’s over 25s next week. I agree with you though, not sure it’s worth the additional staggering/phasing at this stage
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Wales went straight to 18+ some time ago, surely we could do the same as when you get in to 18-29 the COVID risk is almost universally tiny
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,859
Grendel said:
In only fools and horses Rodney the Plonker was called Dave by Trigger all the time
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Jokes are supposed to be funny
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,860
Deleted member 9744 said:
So our vaccine rollout isn't so world beating after all. What a surprise
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It’s been a bit of a shambles here up until April to be honest.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,861
Sick Boy said:
It’s been a bit of a shambles here up until April to be honest.
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Yes I saw that but seems they have sorted it out since?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,862
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Wales went straight to 18+ some time ago, surely we could do the same as when you get in to 18-29 the COVID risk is almost universally tiny
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Presume it’s to do with numbers/volume. These are just headline announcements though. There’s varying pace of roll outs across England regions (and even within regions). My ex has had two jabs and she’s only 40
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,863
CCFCSteve said:
Presume it’s to do with numbers/volume. These are just headline announcements though. There’s varying pace of roll outs across England regions (and even within regions). My ex has had two jabs and she’s only 40
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Well yes depending on the age demographics in specific regions, still they have managed to go at a considerably faster rate than anywhere else in the UK with presumably the same proportionate level of supply.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,864
Deleted member 9744 said:
So our vaccine rollout isn't so world beating after all. What a surprise
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well it’s a lot better than Italy who’ve vaccinated a fraction of what we have - they don’t have a policy of protecting the vulnerable
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 5, 2021
  • #46,865
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well yes depending on the age demographics in specific regions, still they have managed to go at a considerably faster rate than anywhere else in the UK with presumably the same proportionate level of supply.
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I’d have divi’d up country supply by proportionate contribution towards U.K. gdp
 
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