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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,586
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It isn't Brierbart rubbish though is it?

The WHO sent this guy to investigate Wuhan lab, an investigation which took 3 hours. This same guy has a personal investment in the lab.

This isn't some anti-vaxx, covid-denier stuff.
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Ahh. Why didn’t you say it was “this guy”. Clearly true then. I was thinking it was whatshisname. Silly me.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,587
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It isn't Brierbart rubbish though is it?

The WHO sent this guy to investigate Wuhan lab, an investigation which took 3 hours. This same guy has a personal investment in the lab.

This isn't some anti-vaxx, covid-denier stuff.
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Unless Biden has joined Brierbart probably not

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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,588
derbyskyblue said:
Just to change tack a little here, Mrs DSB tells me who firm is not going to renew the rent agreement on their quite sizable offices and conference rooms etc.
Apparently home working has been such a success the c e o is looking to save some serious overheads to the tune of some hundreds of thousand of pounds.
Anyone else who's firm is looking at this ?
Makes me think their is going to be quite a lot of redundant office space soon....
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Yep, out company has adoped an 'agile working' approach moving forward. Basically only come to the office when needed. Personally suits me fine, probably will come in once a week.

Most people I know don't want WFH full time but also don't want 5x days a week in the office so its a fair compromise.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,589
Grendel said:
Unless Biden has joined Brierbart probably not

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The 2 are not even connected.

Briebart taking crank emails as fact and the POTUS ordering an investigation into ALL possible origins of the virus including theories of it being lab grown are not nearly the same thing. If it does turn out that it is lab grown it won’t be the crank emails that certain media outlets are wanking themselves over that uncovered it.

It is nice to see a POTUS taking it seriously though instead of labelling it their latest hoax, promoting drugs they have a vested interest in as a miracle cure, promoting the drinking of bleach, promoting putting a UV light source down your throat or up your... etc.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,590
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It isn't Brierbart rubbish though is it?

The WHO sent this guy to investigate Wuhan lab, an investigation which took 3 hours. This same guy has a personal investment in the lab.

This isn't some anti-vaxx, covid-denier stuff.
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You only have to read the rubbish on this thread to see the utter nonsense people believe in and are desperate to blame a sitting Tory government for anything and everything

Spy Poisoning

Just watching the latest conference from the Police. I can't believe the sentimentalised PR gushing from these guys mouths. Fair enough on the officer who's in Hospital. The rest of it appears to be on the level of a Clouseau film.
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,591
Peter Daszak isn’t a crank, and nor is it unreasonable to question the WHO investigations into the Wuhan lab.

But is there some kind of smoking gun here in this email to Fauci? Not that I can tell. Even the US intel agencies don’t know what’s going on. There isn’t this sudden mountain of evidence pointing towards a lab leak, although the quality of the outlets jumping up and down about the possibility certainly isn’t helping its credibility.
 

COV

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,592
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It isn't Brierbart rubbish though is it?

The WHO sent this guy to investigate Wuhan lab, an investigation which took 3 hours. This same guy has a personal investment in the lab.

This isn't some anti-vaxx, covid-denier stuff.
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Actually it partially is, it’s also partially the usual anti-China rhetoric as some people are desperate to believe they did it all on purpose, and for whatever reason some people hate Fauci.

You’re just recycling rubbish you’ve read, don’t know why this speculation & rumour floats peoples boat so much, it’s proper naive stuff.

Check again, read more widely, don’t automatically believe everything you’re told and critically in this case learn what ‘gain of function’ means.
 

COV

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,593
Grendel said:
You only have to read the rubbish on this thread to see the utter nonsense people believe in and are desperate to blame a sitting Tory government for anything and everything

Spy Poisoning

Just watching the latest conference from the Police. I can't believe the sentimentalised PR gushing from these guys mouths. Fair enough on the officer who's in Hospital. The rest of it appears to be on the level of a Clouseau film.
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I have missed something here obviously, what’s this got to do with the tories, how have they been involved with Fauci? (FYI I am not labour or Tory before that gets slung at me)
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,594
Vaccine booked for 24th June - celebrating with some grappa.
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,595
Sick Boy said:
Vaccine booked for 24th June - celebrating with some grappa.
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Ouch!
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,596
wingy said:
Ouch!
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A mild 50%
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #46,597
COV said:
Actually it partially is, it’s also partially the usual anti-China rhetoric as some people are desperate to believe they did it all on purpose, and for whatever reason some people hate Fauci.

You’re just recycling rubbish you’ve read, don’t know why this speculation & rumour floats peoples boat so much, it’s proper naive stuff.

Check again, read more widely, don’t automatically believe everything you’re told and critically in this case learn what ‘gain of function’ means.
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You've outdone yourself there. Pointing the finger at me for being ignorant and coming out with that? Impressive.

Anti-China rhetoric comes in many forms, some justified, some not. Either way, if you want to go down that hole - what should we do if a totalitarian regime released a biological weapon (deliberate or not deliberate) which has gone on to kill 3 million innocent people worldwide, crashing the global economy and costing trillions in the process? If it was up to you, probably wet the bed and shout racist.

Fauci has changed his stance on covid like the wind, and you cannot on the one hand bash people like Hancock and then praise him with the other. It makes you look silly.

Trump was an early advocate of the leak theory, yes, but it doesn't mean it is all empty and lacking, with anyone slightly suspicious being a loon or breitbart worshipper.
 

COV

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,598
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You've outdone yourself there. Pointing the finger at me for being ignorant and coming out with that? Impressive.

Anti-China rhetoric comes in many forms, some justified, some not. Either way, if you want to go down that hole - what should we do if a totalitarian regime released a biological weapon (deliberate or not deliberate) which has gone on to kill 3 million innocent people worldwide, crashing the global economy and costing trillions in the process? If it was up to you, probably wet the bed and shout racist.

Fauci has changed his stance on covid like the wind, and you cannot on the one hand bash people like Hancock and then praise him with the other. It makes you look silly.

Trump was an early advocate of the leak theory, yes, but it doesn't mean it is all empty and lacking, with anyone slightly suspicious being a loon or breitbart worshipper.
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Please show me where I have mentioned Hancock or Trump.

Alternatively you can admit you’re making things up.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,599
dubed said:
In IT, usually a recipe for disaster.
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Let’s take a job that hinges on absolute unambiguous communication and clarification and work with someone who doesn’t speak the same primary language. Genius.
baldy said:
To be honest,I’ve just seen the clip of her stating absolute facts to Dermot O’Dreary on that awful morning programme along with that tit Matthew Wright & his horrific ponytail & what she said was absolutely factually correct about the average age of death of corona victims etc
Because O’Dreary’s a mainstream media muppet who’s only good at reading from an autocue,he made himself look like an absolutely arrogant twat by speaking over her & not having the slightest clue what he’s on about - stick to presenting your X Factor tosh instead of presenting a 2 hour long morning programme Dermot...you‘re out of your depth son
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,600
COV said:
Please show me where I have mentioned Hancock or Trump.

Alternatively you can admit you’re making things up.
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Grendel posted a link showing that the theory is now being investigated, which funnily enough wasn't copied and pasted from breitbart.

What exactly have I made up? You've tried to come on here and be all high and mighty, but it hasn't really worked.

You could admit yourself that you don't know what you are on about, and care more about nasty words being said about China, but your posts have already done that for you.
 

baldy

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,601
Grendel said:
Lol turner is a thick as fuck moron
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She might be but she was right on this occasion
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,602
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Grendel posted a link showing that the theory is now being investigated, which funnily enough wasn't copied and pasted from breitbart.

What exactly have I made up? You've tried to come on here and be all high and mighty, but it hasn't really worked.

You could admit yourself that you don't know what you are on about, and care more about nasty words being said about China, but your posts have already done that for you.
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Well let’s see then, what have you made up.. You said I was talking about Trump (a lie), you said I was talking about Hancock (a lie), and you said that I am protective of China (a lie).

And with that I have dissected your post and shown you- to use your words- “exactly what you have made up”.

You have a definite habit of seeing things that simply aren’t there, whether it’s deliberate or some kind of affliction I don’t know, either way it is none of my concern.

As for the stuff about totalitarian regimes deliberately murdering millions of people in cahoots with dastardly US scientists, who have apparently helped fund the whole thing (and according to this theory who chat openly about it all on emails for anyone to come along and read), I think you’ve perhaps been watching too many Bond films.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,603
baldy said:
She might be but she was right on this occasion
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Nope. Full of utter utter shite. Seriously mate, listen to doctors not Z list celebs for medical advice.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,604
baldy said:
She might be but she was right on this occasion
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She was about as right as David Ike
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,605
Tories gonna Tory

 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,606
See Zahawi is blaming teachers for not getting enough money. They just lie and lie and lie and people eat it up.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,607
shmmeee said:
See Zahawi is blaming teachers for not getting enough money. They just lie and lie and lie and people eat it up.
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Peston is just a mouthpiece for the propaganda - lets Zahawi spout the lies unchallenged, and before you know it it’s virtually become fact despite being so far away from any actual reality it’s a joke.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,608
shmmeee said:
See Zahawi is blaming teachers for not getting enough money. They just lie and lie and lie and people eat it up.
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Collins wanted £15 billion to pay for the extra costs of making us work at school for longer. That was the grand idea of the ‘tsar’. They do that I’ll leave at the first opportunity and so will the missus
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,609
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Collins wanted £15 billion to pay for the extra costs of making us work at school for longer. That was the grand idea of the ‘tsar’. They do that I’ll leave at the first opportunity and so will the missus
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Just use the money to reduce class sizes - it’s not that fucking difficult a concept.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,610
Ian1779 said:
Just use the money to reduce class sizes - it’s not that fucking difficult a concept.
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You do that it would be so transformative for teachers and students alike. But what we have instead is a very unimaginative response that will make children fed up and the staff want to leave. I already have workload problems as it is, finishing later and having more to do at home is the fastest way to get anyone to quit
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,611
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Collins wanted £15 billion to pay for the extra costs of making us work at school for longer. That was the grand idea of the ‘tsar’. They do that I’ll leave at the first opportunity and so will the missus
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The NEU disagree. Extra hours were voluntary and paid apparently.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,612
shmmeee said:
The NEU disagree. Extra hours were voluntary and paid apparently.
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Kevan Collins didn’t seem to think that.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,613
COV said:
Well let’s see then, what have you made up.. You said I was talking about Trump (a lie), you said I was talking about Hancock (a lie), and you said that I am protective of China (a lie).

And with that I have dissected your post and shown you- to use your words- “exactly what you have made up”.

You have a definite habit of seeing things that simply aren’t there, whether it’s deliberate or some kind of affliction I don’t know, either way it is none of my concern.

As for the stuff about totalitarian regimes deliberately murdering millions of people in cahoots with dastardly US scientists, who have apparently helped fund the whole thing (and according to this theory who chat openly about it all on emails for anyone to come along and read), I think you’ve perhaps been watching too many Bond films.
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You are so busy trying to get one over on me, that you have kind of gone off on a tangent (which is probably deliberate, but anyway). Most of your post is inaccurate (what a surprise), and again, you are making yourself look silly.

I didn't say you were talking about Trump. I used him to argue my point, which was that a lot of the early lab theory ideas were pushed by him and actually not taken seriously as a result of it. Equally with Hancock, my use of the word 'you' was not specifically aimed at you personally. It was a turn of phrase which inferred that any people who criticise (an example) Hancock cannot possibly give Fauci a free pass.

There is a link in this very thread saying there is an investigation into this leak theory, so I haven't made up anything. I know you a desperate for China not to be in the wrong but using Bond films as a counter argument is weird. Something has obviously been off about this from the start, and whilst the bat theory is still most probable in my eyes, you cannot just dismiss the lab leak because it doesn't agree with your politics, which is exactly what you are doing.

COV said:
And with that I have dissected your post and shown you- to use your words- “exactly what you have made up”.
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No, you haven't. You are busy trying to deflect from the main issue, which is that the lab leak theory does have some possibility of being true. In the process you have haven't dissected anything or shown that I've made anything up.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,614
Ian1779 said:
Just use the money to reduce class sizes - it’s not that fucking difficult a concept.
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Even if there was enough teachers and the money to employ them is that actually possible? I live near the school I went to. When I was there in the late 80s class sizes weren't exactly small and there was more pupils than the buildings were designed for. Now the pupil numbers are far higher but there's been very little building done to improve the facilities and increase capacity.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,615
COV said:
Well let’s see then, what have you made up.. You said I was talking about Trump (a lie), you said I was talking about Hancock (a lie), and you said that I am protective of China (a lie).

And with that I have dissected your post and shown you- to use your words- “exactly what you have made up”.

You have a definite habit of seeing things that simply aren’t there, whether it’s deliberate or some kind of affliction I don’t know, either way it is none of my concern.

As for the stuff about totalitarian regimes deliberately murdering millions of people in cahoots with dastardly US scientists, who have apparently helped fund the whole thing (and according to this theory who chat openly about it all on emails for anyone to come along and read), I think you’ve perhaps been watching too many Bond films.
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FT goes full Casino Royale

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The link probably doesn’t work but details why Biden is taking the hypothesis seriously
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,616
chiefdave said:
Even if there was enough teachers and the money to employ them is that actually possible? I live near the school I went to. When I was there in the late 80s class sizes weren't exactly small and there was more pupils than the buildings were designed for. Now the pupil numbers are far higher but there's been very little building done to improve the facilities and increase capacity.
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We’re setting up schools in business parks and offices of course we can find more space.

Personally I’d reform the lot and move away from the idea of one well educated person teaching 30 to maybe one well educated person coordinating a team of 2/3 that teach 30.

You can also play around with the school day, some groups start earlier/finish later than others, send half the year for enrichment, etc etc.

And of course we can build more actual schools, though as they all look like car showrooms these days you may as well just take over offices.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,617
chiefdave said:
Even if there was enough teachers and the money to employ them is that actually possible? I live near the school I went to. When I was there in the late 80s class sizes weren't exactly small and there was more pupils than the buildings were designed for. Now the pupil numbers are far higher but there's been very little building done to improve the facilities and increase capacity.
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The Blair government went on a big investment drive in school facilities in the late 90s and early 00s, but most buildings have not seen investment since around that time. £15 billion invested in a similar drive to create the learning space needed and to boost retention of staff (which is a bigger problem than recruitment) and you could achieve it.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,618


Slow clap please...
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,619
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You do that it would be so transformative for teachers and students alike. But what we have instead is a very unimaginative response that will make children fed up and the staff want to leave. I already have workload problems as it is, finishing later and having more to do at home is the fastest way to get anyone to quit
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Friend of mines quitting.
They've pushed and pushed and pushed and she's had enough.
Works special needs and has to put up with all sorts of shit, she's been attacked multiple times but it's the current workload that's pushed her over the edge.
Eats into a ridiculous amount of her spare time.
 
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baldy

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  • Jun 3, 2021
  • #46,620
shmmeee said:
Nope. Full of utter utter shite. Seriously mate, listen to doctors not Z list celebs for medical advice.
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She was only saying something that's been on the ONS website for months
 
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