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No one is dying let’s get the colly open and get fans back at games.
Third wave starting to trend on twitter .
This is how mass panic begins , these fuckers know what they are doing
No panic just cautious optimism that we can be sensible and chart a course balancing what we need to'Just a few more weeks.'
Well you only have to look on this forum to see how easy it is.
No panic just cautious optimism that we can be sensible and chart a course balancing what we need to
I see it as meaning that out of 52,000 hospital patients, only 500 of those had received at least one dose. Of the vaccinated who went to hospital, 100 died. It
Think it’s looking more and more likely that restrictions won’t all be lifted on the 21st. Whilst I don’t think we’re going to end up tightening the ones already released I think it’s prudent to just hold fire another month and see where we are.
Vaccines are only 33% effective after one dose. We really need all adults to have been offered both doses to confidently say were out of the woods.
The opening of travel restrictions looks more and more irresponsible.
How many times do we need to make the same mistake?
The pfizer jab33% effective? Really?
33% effective? Really?
I think Sams correct if he’s talking about Indian variant. A recent study was saying jabs were around 33% effective against Indian variant after one dose (which appears to be becoming most dominant variant here and probably will be elsewhere). However, this was as in stopping people getting it after one dose, not sure what the effectiveness is against severe illness/death, hopefully a lot higher
Watch the hospital programme and the consultants will tell you people are dying of the secondary effects of treating Covid patients. 5m waiting lists it’s not just death to Covid as it’s not just economy to consider and mental health is often much better if your family and friends are not waiting for treatment or missing cancer and heart operations through lack of itu beds. Cautious optimismWho is going to die from it though, or be seriously ill? They've been vaccinated.
It is always 'just a few more weeks'. I haven't even said we should lift the final restrictions before June 21st, which is what some others have suggested, but to extend beyond that when such high numbers of people that are affected by the virus having been vaccinated makes no sense.
Think it’s looking more and more likely that restrictions won’t all be lifted on the 21st. Whilst I don’t think we’re going to end up tightening the ones already released I think it’s prudent to just hold fire another month and see where we are.
Vaccines are only 33% effective after one dose. We really need all adults to have been offered both doses to confidently say were out of the woods.
The opening of travel restrictions looks more and more irresponsible.
How many times do we need to make the same mistake?
I take it you have nothing important planned in July then.
Daughter just booked Egypt september 22Still holding off on booking abroad , I still don't have the confidence to book even for 2022
Watch the hospital programme and the consultants will tell you people are dying of the secondary effects of treating Covid patients. 5m waiting lists it’s not just death to Covid as it’s not just economy to consider and mental health is often much better if your family and friends are not waiting for treatment or missing cancer and heart operations through lack of itu beds. Cautious optimism
That’s great it really isOne person in the whole of the UK died with Covid today. None in England.
One person in the whole of the UK died with Covid today. None in England.
Just work I dont get school holidays unfortunately.
Whole country has had their lives on hold for too long but let’s get this over and done with once and for all. A small delay on the last restrictions left isn’t as bad as having to reintroduce them because we couldn’t wait.
I'm having a little trouble with this.I see it as meaning that out of 52,000 hospital patients, only 500 of those had received at least one dose. Of the vaccinated who went to hospital, 100 died. It shows to me brilliant protection against serious illness.
I’ll have had two in 2 days. I feel pretty safe but actually have always done so
I haven’t been to the supermarket since November for fear that someone on here will collar me for not being 2m apart at all times.
I'm having a little trouble with this.
The initial data I think broke down as 1% mortality,which is probably deflated by asymptomatic case's.
90% of those were old and frail .
You seem to suggest 20% died after vaccination , more precise information on exactly how many had one or two doses would be better.
They were all hospitalised ?
Yeah I do understand that but it paints all the death's occurred among the vaccinated at 20% and none from the other 50kThink of it this way. It would suggest that 500 out of 50,000, around 1%, of hospitalised people had been jabbed, the rest were not.
Out of those 500, 100 died. So it amounts to 0.2% of deaths overall. Add in that some of these will just be single jabs or infected just after vaccination as well and I do not see the rationale behind staying closed particularly as more will be meeting outside
The young were being blamed by the Daily Fail 6 months ago for causing the spike. Now they are doing something that should be seen as preventing a spike and they are still criticised. They can’t win.Not, “the young are ready for the vaccine and look at them go”
most people are sound the minority are pricks. Don't let them do your nut in. I keep telling myself that too.Fuck it. Went on a rant, deleted it. Not worth it
Just for context here hill, I think it's just typical of journalism .Free for all. Scrum.
They’re trying it. Fuck the daily mail
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