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Evo1883

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #46,306
PVA said:
Can't see that happening.

Who was he, just some random GP or someone in SAGE etc?
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Il be honest I didn't catch his title, just that he was a doctor .. but I really hope that isn't a part of government thinking .
 
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SBAndy

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #46,307
Evo1883 said:
Some doctor on the radio then saying we should be concerned about opening up on 21st June because of the backlog of NON covid related treatments?

Therefore essentially wanting restrictions in place until the backlog is cleared, just incase covid cases rise alongside it .. yea that will go down well with the people I'm sure.

Not
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Heard the same. Can’t remember the title of the chap but he doesn’t/won’t have any authority. The suggestion is bizarre.
 
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baldy

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #46,308

Bury St Edmunds Christmas Fayre cancelled for 2021

Bury St Edmunds Christmas Fayre has been cancelled for the second time.
www.eadt.co.uk

Bury have cancelled their Xmas market already - how could they possibly know what’s going to happen in 6 months time? Ridiculous
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 30, 2021
  • #46,309
baldy said:

Bury St Edmunds Christmas Fayre cancelled for 2021

Bury St Edmunds Christmas Fayre has been cancelled for the second time.
www.eadt.co.uk

Bury have cancelled their Xmas market already - how could they possibly know what’s going to happen in 6 months time? Ridiculous
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Very strange , 6 months after restrictions lifted , what do they know that we don't eh
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,310

SAGE expert calls for June 21 to be delayed 'by a few weeks'

Environment Secretary George Eustice today warned the Government 'couldn't rule anything out' when asked whether June 21 'freedom day' could be delayed due to rising Covid infections.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,311
Ccfcisparks said:

SAGE expert calls for June 21 to be delayed 'by a few weeks'

Environment Secretary George Eustice today warned the Government 'couldn't rule anything out' when asked whether June 21 'freedom day' could be delayed due to rising Covid infections.
www.dailymail.co.uk
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Easy for them to say
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,312
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Easy for them to say
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Does make sense but we open up too fast and shut down too slow. That’s the mantra.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,313
This should trigger Earlsdon

Ampleforth College banned from admitting new pupils over safeguarding failings

The Education Secretary Gavin Williamson has ordered the school to 'cease to admit any new students'
www.google.co.uk
 
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Grendel

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,314
Sky Blue Pete said:
Does make sense but we open up too fast and shut down too slow. That’s the mantra.
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don’t see how anyone can say we are opening up fast we’ll have done 70 million jabs by June 21
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,315
Grendel said:
don’t see how anyone can say we are opening up fast we’ll have done 70 million jabs by June 21
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Way to fast. We should be locked down until the autumn at least.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,316
I wish they'd kept the pubs shut. Im hanging
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,317
Ccfcisparks said:

SAGE expert calls for June 21 to be delayed 'by a few weeks'

Environment Secretary George Eustice today warned the Government 'couldn't rule anything out' when asked whether June 21 'freedom day' could be delayed due to rising Covid infections.
www.dailymail.co.uk
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,318
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Easy for them to say
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Bit early for that. Michie loves a lockdown though. Ive got no issue with people saying that we have to see whether the chain/link between cases and hospitalisations has been broken by the vaccination programme and if it hasn’t been sufficiently, then the 21 June should be delayed....but calling it now ?!! Shows an already skewed view in my eyes

This weeks data will probably be key to the decision. Let’s just hope things remain under control
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,319
Ccfcisparks said:
Way to fast. We should be locked down until the autumn at least.
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Autumn 2025 I say
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,320
clint van damme said:
I wish they'd kept the pubs shut. Im hanging
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That was me yesterday, thank god for the decent weather, I was in bits ! Good luck
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,321
Grendel said:
This should trigger Earlsdon

Ampleforth College banned from admitting new pupils over safeguarding failings

The Education Secretary Gavin Williamson has ordered the school to 'cease to admit any new students'
www.google.co.uk
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This doesn't surprise me , many people like their new life
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,322
Grendel said:
don’t see how anyone can say we are opening up fast we’ll have done 70 million jabs by June 21
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Hindsight from the previous two lockdowns. That’s all. I’ve no idea but the reality is just that
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,323
Grendel said:
don’t see how anyone can say we are opening up fast we’ll have done 70 million jabs by June 21
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I’ll have had two in 2 days. I feel pretty safe but actually have always done so
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,324
Sky Blue Pete said:
Hindsight from the previous two lockdowns. That’s all. I’ve no idea but the reality is just that
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I think the main difference between now and the 2 previous lockdowns is a vaccine which they are saying is what , 85% plus effective .
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,325
Evo1883 said:
I think the main difference between now and the 2 previous lockdowns is a vaccine which they are saying is what , 85% plus effective .
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Yep I agree
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,326
So as I understand it , delaying the next stage means that things will just stay as they are now ?

Let's be honest , they are going to delay it .
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,327
Evo1883 said:
So as I understand it , delaying the next stage means that things will just stay as they are now ?

Let's be honest , they are going to delay it .
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Well you can open lots up but still keep social distancing and masks for instance
 

Evo1883

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,328
Do we have any data on how many people have died who have been fully vaccinated and who have contracted the virus
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,329
Evo1883 said:
Autumn 2025 I say
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I'd say atleast 2030 but each to their own.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,330
Evo1883 said:
Do we have any data on how many people have died who have been fully vaccinated and who have contracted the virus
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saw that two in Bolton area have unfortunately passed (not sure of age, pre existing conditions etc though)
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,331
Evo1883 said:
Do we have any data on how many people have died who have been fully vaccinated and who have contracted the virus
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113 out of 52,000 in a study and most were in the 80 plus bracket
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,332
Sky Blue Pete said:
Well you can open lots up but still keep social distancing and masks for instance
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yeah, I wondered if they might end up just tweaking some of the 21 June removal of restrictions ie allow certain events but maybe with a requirement for negative tests pre event
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,333
CCFCSteve said:
saw that two in Bolton area has unfortunately passed (not sure of age, pre existing conditions etc though)
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Very sad .

We are however in a fortunate position with this vaccine where it has an extremely high success rate as opposed to the flu jab , which is successful but much less so, we still lose thousands a year even with a vaccine .

I made the point the other day that we will have to get to the point where there is an acceptable amount of deaths before there is a huge concern .

On average 43 die a day with flu (with vaccines )

So we need to get to a point where we understand what the covid 19 normal will be
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,334
To be fair , it still might be a bit too soon to know this .
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,335
Grendel said:
113 out of 52,000 in a study and most were in the 80 plus bracket
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Worryingly high.
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,336
Ccfcisparks said:
Worryingly high.
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You're a clever lad , do the quick match for me...what percentage is that please , genuine question (not being sarcastic just shit at math )
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,337
Evo1883 said:
You're a clever lad , do the quick match for me...what percentage is that please , genuine question (not being sarcastic just shit at math )
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Also it’s believed some contracted in before the 3 week period the vaccine takes full effect
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,338
Sky Blue Pete said:
Does make sense but we open up too fast and shut down too slow. That’s the mantra.
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Tell that to businesses on the edge and people who have postponed life events for a year already
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,339
There is still a worrying attitude towards people going back to normal activities (legally , can't believe I'm saying that )
Take yesterday and people going to the beach as an example , there are people still having digs at them on the socials
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 31, 2021
  • #46,340
How likely is it that by September I’d be able to visit without having to quarantine if I’ve been fully vaccinated?
 
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