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jordan210

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,886
Still cant book. Im less then 2 months away from 32.

I bet the next group they open up will be 25+ so nikes it hard to get an appointment
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,887
I turned 33 last week and got a text on Saturday morning to book. Getting my AZ jab at Bath Racecourse on Wednesday afternoon.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,888
jordan210 said:
Still cant book. Im less then 2 months away from 32.

I bet the next group they open up will be 25+ so nikes it hard to get an appointment
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Depends a lot on your local demographic as well, I live in a place with an older population and they'd locally offered over 30s last week (I know a 31 yo who had his the same day as me).
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,889
Skybluefaz said:
Bit of a sore arm but that is all. There was a moment of weird existential self-realisation when I was waiting the 15 minutes after the jab. Here I am in a mass vaccination centre in a global pandemic. Could have just been the previous nights vodka I suppose but it all seemed more real. They are doing a great job, hopefully we have jabbed our way out of this.
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Same, no side affects other than in the second day of a hangover from an all dayer Saturday. But my arm is fucking killing me. Can barely move it.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,890
Hospitalisations accelerating in Bolton apparently
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,891
fernandopartridge said:
Hospitalisations accelerating in Bolton apparently
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Link?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,892
Just looking at vaccination numbers and how skewed they are by the relative 'age' of a place, Coventry as a young city is quite vulnerable as vaccination rate below UK average, I suspect most other cities are similar. That said, it's done OK covid wise.



 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,893
fernandopartridge said:
Just looking at vaccination numbers and how skewed they are by the relative 'age' of a place, Coventry as a young city is quite vulnerable as vaccination rate below UK average, I suspect most other cities are similar. That said, it's done OK covid wise.

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Where did you get this from?
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,894
Id be willing to say with confidence that any hospitalisations that may rise will be in the unvaccinated.

At a push you may see a few jabbed once going into hospital.


However as long as it isnt the double jabbed or at risk, its surely safe to carry on unlocking?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,895
Saddlebrains said:
Id be willing to say with confidence that any hospitalisations that may rise will be in the unvaccinated.

At a push you may see a few jabbed once going into hospital.


However as long as it isnt the double jabbed or at risk, its surely safe to carry on unlocking?
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Most are well down

England's 10 hospital trusts with most Covid patients as Bolton sees sharp rise

Encouraging data shows the number of hospital patients with Covid has more than halved in all regions in England, raising hopes that lockdown restrictions can be lifted on June 21
www.mirror.co.uk
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,896
Liquid Gold said:
Where did you get this from?
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UKHSA data dashboard

Showing public health data across England
coronavirus.data.gov.uk
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,897
Scotland now doing jabs for 18-30 year olds, how long do you think it will be before we have that in England
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,898
Grendel said:
Most are well down

England's 10 hospital trusts with most Covid patients as Bolton sees sharp rise

Encouraging data shows the number of hospital patients with Covid has more than halved in all regions in England, raising hopes that lockdown restrictions can be lifted on June 21
www.mirror.co.uk
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God the Reach group or whatever get worse.

According to that story 63 people in hospital in the entire north west, but the combined numbers of 3 Trusts in Greater Manchester are 79.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,899
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Scotland now doing jabs for 18-30 year olds, how long do you think it will be before we have that in England
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Think they’re hoping for under 30s by the end of the week. not sure if they’re splitting into sub age groups/ranges through...I’d lump them all in together
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,900
Saddlebrains said:
If anyone fancies a wank

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Had 2 , cheers
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,901
Genuinely hope they find this agency and charge them with something. Anything. Even a parking fine.

 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,902
Figures going nowhere June 21st looks fine
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #45,903
Sky Blue Pete said:
Figures going nowhere June 21st looks fine
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I’ve been keeping an eye on hospitalisations and there is a bit of an uptick (PHE page). Just hoping this is higher risk groups that haven’t been vaccinated (guessing from the Indian variant hot spots) and the case rate remains steady. The next week or two should provide a clearer picture. Keeping fingers crossed that the high vaccine uptake keeps things in check
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,904

Ministers urged to clarify travel advice for England’s Covid hotspots

Guidance about Bolton and seven other areas apparently put online without announcement
www.theguardian.com

lol
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,905
CCFCSteve said:
I’ve been keeping an eye on hospitalisations and there is a bit of an uptick (PHE page). Just hoping this is higher risk groups that haven’t been vaccinated (guessing from the Indian variant hot spots) and the case rate remains steady. The next week or two should provide a clearer picture. Keeping fingers crossed that the high vaccine uptake keeps things in check
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If the Indian variant really is an issue then I don’t see why compulsory vaccination is not being considered in these areas. Medical necessity trumps believing nonsense on Facebook
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,906

Covid: Royal Bolton Hospital taking 'urgent action' over virus

Royal Bolton Hospital says it has experienced one of its busiest ever days amid a surge in patients.
www.bbc.co.uk

Make of it what you will
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,907
David O'Day said:

Covid: Royal Bolton Hospital taking 'urgent action' over virus

Royal Bolton Hospital says it has experienced one of its busiest ever days amid a surge in patients.
www.bbc.co.uk

Make of it what you will
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It needs context.

Nowhere does it say if they were vaccinated or not.

If not then we can carry on with June 21st. Only way thats a worry is if its double vaccinated people
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,908
Things are looking A LOT better here as well.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,909
Saddlebrains said:
It needs context.

Nowhere does it say if they were vaccinated or not.

If not then we can carry on with June 21st. Only way thats a worry is if its double vaccinated people
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It doesn't need context it simply shows that it could increase the hospitalisations in areas which is just as much of a problem as the death rate due to the knock on effect.

It's something that does need an eye keeping on
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,910
Saddlebrains said:
It needs context.

Nowhere does it say if they were vaccinated or not.

If not then we can carry on with June 21st. Only way thats a worry is if its double vaccinated people
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It is a worry if we determine that all those who refused a jab but are at risk of hospitalisation runs into a big enough number for NHS overwhelm
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,911
Saddlebrains said:
It needs context.

Nowhere does it say if they were vaccinated or not.

If not then we can carry on with June 21st. Only way thats a worry is if its double vaccinated people
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It does indirectly, majority unvaccinated and only recently eligible to be, ie under 40. It says some were eligible for both jabs but the way its worded suggests they hadn't taken up the offer.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,912
Some of the data published is absolutely useless mind. NHS England publishes age band admission data weekly (even though it will come from the same collection as the daily reports published no doubt). It has a cohort that is aged 18-54, what the fuck are you supposed to do with that?
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,913
fernandopartridge said:
Some of the data published is absolutely useless mind. NHS England publishes age band admission data weekly (even though it will come from the same collection as the daily reports published no doubt). It has a cohort that is aged 18-54, what the fuck are you supposed to do with that?
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The sceptic in me always felt this was done intentionally because if you split it into smaller groupings like the other age ranges the younger uns would see it’s unlikely to impact them so may be less likely to follow restrictions.

There’s been loads of manipulation of stats by the government and scientific advisors throughout the pandemic

Ps some more positive news on PHE hospital covid inpatients, shot up yesterday (partially weekend catch up but concerning) from 756 to 797 but reduced again to 765 today. Also read Bolton case numbers flatlining so fingers crossed the spike just related to large numbers returning from high transmission area at same time (happened with Spanish hols last summer apparently and then settled back down)
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,914
CCFCSteve said:
The sceptic in me always felt this was done intentionally because if you split it into smaller groupings like the other age ranges the younger uns would see it’s unlikely to impact them so may be less likely to follow restrictions.

There’s been loads of manipulation of stats by the government and scientific advisors throughout the pandemic

Ps some more positive news on PHE hospital covid inpatients, shot up yesterday (partially weekend catch up but concerning) from 756 to 797 but reduced again to 765 today. Also read Bolton case numbers flatlining so fingers crossed the spike just related to large numbers returning from high transmission area at same time (happened with Spanish hols last summer apparently and then settled back down)
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People in hospital peaked at just over 34,000 in Jan and now we at 765. Modellers reckon we could head back to those peaks. I really struggle to work that out considering the vaccination numbers.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,915
MusicDating said:
People in hospital peaked at just over 34,000 in Jan and now we at 765. Modellers reckon we could head back to those peaks. I really struggle to work that out considering the vaccination numbers.
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Much depends on how many 50+ and CEV are unvaccinated
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,916
MusicDating said:
People in hospital peaked at just over 34,000 in Jan and now we at 765. Modellers reckon we could head back to those peaks. I really struggle to work that out considering the vaccination numbers.
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Yeah, I do too but the percentage unvaccinated is still large enough to cause a major problem to the NHS, it's just hard to foresee such a rapid growth isn't it?

I think some of the modelling doesn't factor in the nervousness that a lot of people have about social mixing or the continued home working policies from many employers.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,917
fernandopartridge said:
Yeah, I do too but the percentage unvaccinated is still large enough to cause a major problem to the NHS, it's just hard to foresee such a rapid growth isn't it?

I think some of the modelling doesn't factor in the nervousness that a lot of people have about social mixing or the continued home working policies from many employers.
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I think it will depend on where we are with vaccinations on the 21st
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,918
Even if the vax is 95% effective, with 100% uptake, 70m people means 3.5m people infected. And efficacy won’t be that high nor will take up.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,919
Really hope we're not going to mess this up when we're on the brink of getting back to something approaching normal.

The local lockdowns seem a complete shambles. Stuck on a government website on a Friday night and didn't think to let anyone in a position of authority in those areas know. Now you have local councils saying they have no idea what is going on and as far as they are concerned nothing has changed. One of the places its advised not to travel in or out of is Hounslow, now which borough is Heathrow in again?

And following on from the confusion about the traffic light system last week which ended up with the government claiming there was no confusion and it was perfectly clear to everyone it seems that this week will see 100K British tourists arrive in Spain. Spain of course being on the amber list which means you can't go on holiday there.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #45,920
chiefdave said:
Really hope we're not going to mess this up when we're on the brink of getting back to something approaching normal.

The local lockdowns seem a complete shambles. Stuck on a government website on a Friday night and didn't think to let anyone in a position of authority in those areas know. Now you have local councils saying they have no idea what is going on and as far as they are concerned nothing has changed. One of the places its advised not to travel in or out of is Hounslow, now which borough is Heathrow in again?

And following on from the confusion about the traffic light system last week which ended up with the government claiming there was no confusion and it was perfectly clear to everyone it seems that this week will see 100K British tourists arrive in Spain. Spain of course being on the amber list which means you can't go on holiday there.
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They've already had to say it is just guidance and not the law
 
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