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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,421
CCFCSteve said:
I was talking about the specific quote BSB which was taken out of context
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Perhaps, my point is they are almost certainly going to open schools on the 8th which will likely trigger them needing to close them again in the future.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,422
CCFCSteve said:
I think that ‘cautious but irreversible’ comment has been taken out of context. From what I’ve read Johnson was saying the dates to be announced next week will be the earliest for releasing certain restrictions in stages, and if there’s a spike they won’t hesitate to delay stages further.

He wants the progress out of lockdown to be cautious but irreversible ie if they’re careful they shouldn’t hopefully need to lock back down again
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You may be right, but even so the way it's said make it seems like if he lifts restrictions in places he do everything he can to avoid putting those restrictions back in place even if cases start to rise again. If that happens he needs to be able to have the scope to reverse them. What he's done is backed himself into a corner by either breaking that 'promise' as the nutters will see it or keeping it and allowing the virus to regain momentum.

But being Johnson he'll be more than willing to u-turn depending on which is most popular. I just hope with vaccinations, hopefully warmer, sunnier weather on the way in the next few months maybe, just maybe we can stop the lockdown cycle. Fear is new variants and wet, dull spring weather will mean this won't be the last lockdown we see.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,423
Evo1883 said:
I'm 37 with asthma... When would I be getting a jab?
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They have just downgraded it so that you won't get a jab unless you've been hospitalised with it in the past or have it severely. Missus is in the same position.
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,424
CCFCSteve said:
Haha, it’s not a defence Clint, I’m quoting what he was actually saying !!! It's more that people are jumping on stuff that’s being said without reading the whole quote/comment
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But that will be jumped on by the anti lockdowners and Johnson will have backed himself into a corner.
And as we've seen, being slow to make difficult calls costs lives. He really should be more careful.

Like I said, I watched interviews over the weekend where the media were trying to set these types of traps for idiots like Williamson and even he wasnt falling for it.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,425
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Perhaps, my point is they are almost certainly going to open schools on the 8th which will likely trigger them needing to close them again in the future.
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It’s definitely be highest risk area by a mile. You’d hope there is some kind of staggering (ie primary first, any higher transmission areas delayed etc). Not seen any info though
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,426
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They have just downgraded it so that you won't get a jab unless you've been hospitalised with it in the past or have it severely. Missus is in the same position.
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Ah lovely, so are we in the lowest bracket now? Basically end of the queue.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,427
CCFCSteve said:
It’s definitely be highest risk area by a mile. You’d hope there is some kind of staggering (ie primary first, any higher transmission areas delayed etc). Not seen any info though
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If we go back on 8th of March it's barely 20 days in school, with heavily compromised lessons and social interaction. It just isn't worth it for secondary kids.
 

David O'Day

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,428
He did the fucking cautious and irreversible line again
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,429
Evo1883 said:
Ah lovely, so are we in the lowest bracket now? Basically end of the queue.
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Yes, there's a piece on it here

Covid-19: Millions of asthmatics 'must wait for vaccine' - BBC News
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,430
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes, there's a piece on it here

Covid-19: Millions of asthmatics 'must wait for vaccine' - BBC News
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What a load of shit... Apologies for the French
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,431
Evo1883 said:
What a load of shit... Apologies for the French
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Wonder how it affects the number in that 16-64 category
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,432
Evo1883 said:
What a load of shit... Apologies for the French
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It is indeed. My son doesn't suffer with his too much now but I'd have been a lot happier if he was getting the jab sooner rather than later
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,433
Evo1883 said:
What a load of shit... Apologies for the French
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That's OK - they're not your fault. Like the flu we've learnt to live with them.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,434
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
You may be right, but even so the way it's said make it seems like if he lifts restrictions in places he do everything he can to avoid putting those restrictions back in place even if cases start to rise again. If that happens he needs to be able to have the scope to reverse them. What he's done is backed himself into a corner by either breaking that 'promise' as the nutters will see it or keeping it and allowing the virus to regain momentum.

But being Johnson he'll be more than willing to u-turn depending on which is most popular. I just hope with vaccinations, hopefully warmer, sunnier weather on the way in the next few months maybe, just maybe we can stop the lockdown cycle. Fear is new variants and wet, dull spring weather will mean this won't be the last lockdown we see.
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I wouldn’t have chosen those words either but he’s actually saying ‘we’re going to take it slowly so we don’t have to go through this again’ which will be an attempt to keep public buy in for the coming weeks/months
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,435
clint van damme said:
It is indeed. My son doesn't suffer with his too much now but I'd have been a lot happier if he was getting the jab sooner rather than later
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It's clear as day people with asthma have taken extra precautions during this pandemic... My dad wouldn't leave the pissing house at all.

We have to get a flu jab annually so why the difference in something that's more serious? Asthmatics should be ahead of most healthy adults between 50 - 65

This has annoyed me a little bit tbh
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,436
CCFCSteve said:
I wouldn’t have chosen those words either but he’s actually saying ‘we’re going to take it slowly so we don’t have to go through this again’ which will be an attempt to keep public buy in for the coming weeks/months
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But if he starts the nutters will push even harder to get things speeded up, esp if infections don't rise overnight after lockdown is eased. And once again i fer he'd pander to them. He filled the party with them and now he's got to keep them onside.

The restaunt business wants "Eat Out to Help Out" back even though it gave opportunity for the virus to catch hold. I wouldn't be surprised if other industries want similar. "Night Out to Help Out" for the arts, "Work Out to Help Out" for gyms etc.

We've also got the Wetherspoons twat amongst others saying "Open the Pubs" which is again asking for trouble.
 

David O'Day

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,437
Hospitalisations is still a worry
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,438
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But if he starts the nutters will push even harder to get things speeded up, esp if infections don't rise overnight after lockdown is eased. And once again i fer he'd pander to them. He filled the party with them and now he's got to keep them onside.

The restaunt business wants "Eat Out to Help Out" back even though it gave opportunity for the virus to catch hold. I wouldn't be surprised if other industries want similar. "Night Out to Help Out" for the arts, "Work Out to Help Out" for gyms etc.

We've also got the Wetherspoons twat amongst others saying "Open the Pubs" which is again asking for trouble.
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Im one of the those twats !!! I want the boozers back open (likely to be minimum 6-7 weeks away even for outdoors though). The schools is the biggest risk area though and could push other reopenings back...personally hope not but will depend on case, hospital numbers etc
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,439
Johnson laughing at his inability to pronounce words
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,440
CCFCSteve said:
Im one of the those twats !!! I want the boozers back open (likely to be 6 weeks away even for outdoors though). The schools is the biggest risk area though and could push other reopenings back...personally hope not but will depend on case, hospital numbers etc
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Open schools in the summer term and allow hospitality the same.
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,441
Why don't we keep schools shut until the most vulnerable groups have had their SECOND jab?

Basically 15 million plus second jabs
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,442
Keep the schools shut until next year. By the time September rolls round all of the most vulnerable will have both jabs, most people, if not everyone, will have had 1 and the rates should have plummeted due to better weather anyway.
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,443
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But if he starts the nutters will push even harder to get things speeded up, esp if infections don't rise overnight after lockdown is eased. And once again i fer he'd pander to them. He filled the party with them and now he's got to keep them onside.

The restaunt business wants "Eat Out to Help Out" back even though it gave opportunity for the virus to catch hold. I wouldn't be surprised if other industries want similar. "Night Out to Help Out" for the arts, "Work Out to Help Out" for gyms etc.

We've also got the Wetherspoons twat amongst others saying "Open the Pubs" which is again asking for trouble.
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Can't help but wonder how much of it is organic or staged .
The media often appears to start off the fire or Feed it oxygen .
Maybe it's very convenient for him to him , closer to his true intentions ,used plenty of the same argument at other stages.
Cynical I know .
Adam Boulton took down an MP from Derby (can't remember her name) this morning over that letter that was sent in .
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,444
wingy said:
Can't help but wonder how much of it is organic or staged .
The media often appears to start off the fire or Feed it oxygen .
Maybe it's very convenient for him to him , closer to his true intentions ,used plenty of the same argument at other stages.
Cynical I know .
Adam Boulton took down an MP from Derby (can't remember her name) this morning over that letter that was sent in .
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I think you're right, it's all rather choreographed isn't it?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,445
Evo1883 said:
It's clear as day people with asthma have taken extra precautions during this pandemic... My dad wouldn't leave the pissing house at all.

We have to get a flu jab annually so why the difference in something that's more serious? Asthmatics should be ahead of most healthy adults between 50 - 65

This has annoyed me a little bit tbh
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Total cunts, aren't they. All the talk was that Mrs Wisdom would be getting it soon, and it was something to cling to before she's sent back to work and now, taken away because some shits want to play with emotions.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,446
Liquid Gold said:
Keep the schools shut until next year. By the time September rolls round all of the most vulnerable will have both jabs, most people, if not everyone, will have had 1 and the rates should have plummeted due to better weather anyway.
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I could accept summer term, that’s still 3 months. But not before as seems to be the case
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,447
Deleted member 5849 said:
Total cunts, aren't they. All the talk was that Mrs Wisdom would be getting it soon, and it was something to cling to before she's sent back to work and now, taken away because some shits want to play with emotions.
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I'd like to know the motive.
IE if this has been withdrawn when previously offered?
Then if so who are the new recipients,second dosers? A.N other?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,448
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I could accept summer term, that’s still 3 months. But not before as seems to be the case
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I just don't see the point in doing summer term, just push through for the rest of the school year and have it done. Any kids doing exams will have them done by then anyway so you're just getting kids in and messing them about for a couple of months of half teaching. Do it from home as has been, vaccinate as many people as you can and open the petri dishes again in September.
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,449
Ian1779 said:
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You’ll never see a socialist PM again in your lifetime mate give the government credit on the roll out.
If it had been Corbyn and his terrorist sympathisers you’d have been cumming in your pants!!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,450
It’sabatch87 said:
You’ll never see a socialist PM again in your lifetime mate give the government credit on the roll out.
If it had been Corbyn and his terrorist sympathisers you’d have been cumming in your pants!!
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Sick of comments like this
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,451
Liquid Gold said:
I just don't see the point in doing summer term, just push through for the rest of the school year and have it done. Any kids doing exams will have them done by then anyway so you're just getting kids in and messing them about for a couple of months of half teaching. Do it from home as has been, vaccinate as many people as you can and open the petri dishes again in September.
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Exams usually not done till June actually and they still haven’t decided on the mode of assessment. I could also desperately use some time for practical work with the exam classes.
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,452
It’sabatch87 said:
You’ll never see a socialist PM again in your lifetime mate give the government credit on the roll out.
If it had been Corbyn and his terrorist sympathisers you’d have been cumming in your pants!!
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You happy with the corruption that's gone on costing the tax payer billions and the fact that the government are currently spending tax payers money trying to defend it in court?

If the answers yes what is it about that posh accent that makes you such a forelock tugging embarrassment?
 
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Ian1779

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,453
It’sabatch87 said:
You’ll never see a socialist PM again in your lifetime mate give the government credit on the roll out.
If it had been Corbyn and his terrorist sympathisers you’d have been cumming in your pants!!
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Good to see you’ve decided to get the Daily Mail Bingo out again... you must be getting close to a full house by now.

They have done well rolling out the vaccine so far - amazing what happens when you allow an organisation that was created by the arms of socialism to do it, rather than a dog-shit private corporation ripping off the tax payers money.

What we don’t need now is the knob heads at the CRG fucking up the last bit because they’ve got a hard-on for ‘freedom’
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,454
Will most likely hit 30% tomorrow. That figure will keep going up and up until second doses fall due at which point the vulnerable population will start getting an incredible level of protection.

 
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wingy

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #42,455
Are we forgetting transmission?
Supposed to reduce by 65%+ after vaccination yes?
Question, back to the old one really when we're at the height of next winter booster's will be administered through the age brackets again I assume ,leaving the younger generations likely on potentially one dose of the original, I'd still say this would be where the bulk of transmission occurs.
Does that matter?
 
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