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ajsccfc

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,756
My mum's had her first jab which is a big relief, she was getting a little nervy near the time about not knowing what's in it but I pointed out that she doesn't grow her own food. Of course then everyone around me stood and applauded as if Michael Jordan had just hit a sweet dunk to save SpaceJam
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,757
I'm not sure about mandatory quarantine but then again, when compared with months and months longer of lockdown I'd go with the former.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,758
fernandopartridge said:
They have published some studies showing a difference with one jab haven't they?
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Some but there's also studies from there that may link to lower than expected efficiency data is too small to really tell so it's best to just remember they are vaccinating as per the Biontech guidelines and the most of their efficiency figures are from fully vaccinated people.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,759
David O'Day said:
Some but there's also studies from there that may link to lower than expected efficiency data is too small to really tell so it's best to just remember they are vaccinating as per the Biontech guidelines and the most of their efficiency figures are from fully vaccinated people.
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I think the first jabs also coincided with the introduction of a new lock down so that may be a factor in any reductions.
 

David O'Day

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,760
clint van damme said:
I think the first jabs also coincided with the introduction of a new lock down so that may be a factor in any reductions.
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That'll help, it'll be interesting to see the results once they have them from a period with less restrictions .

They do look very promising though and it does look like the Stage 3 trials are being reproduced "in the wild".
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,761
The Russian one works it seems

Sputnik V vaccine has 91.6% efficacy against symptomatic Covid, Russian trial suggests

Preliminary findings based on analysis of data from more than 20,000 participants
www.theguardian.com
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,762
skybluetony176 said:
It is of course complete nonsense on the same level that Bill Gates puts a microchip in it but decades of being treated as worthless citizens makes an environment in a community where shit like this is easy to believe.
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Quite, and applies to a lot more communities than just BAME.
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,763
Variant this

Mutation that


Vaccine wont work


12 weeks too long for SA Variant.


Is this ever going to fucking end?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,764
Saddlebrains said:
Variant this

Mutation that


Vaccine wont work


12 weeks too long for SA Variant.


Is this ever going to fucking end?
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What astounds me is how the government continues to just give ‘advice’ on new variants and isn’t enforcing quarantine of affected individuals. Australia showed how it should be done
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,765
Saddlebrains said:
Variant this

Mutation that


Vaccine wont work


12 weeks too long for SA Variant.


Is this ever going to fucking end?
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Coventry 2021 City of (mutant) Culture!
 
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hill83

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,766
shmmeee said:
Quite, and applies to a lot more communities than just BAME.
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Said this a few times but I can’t fucking stand the term BAME. It’s not a community.
 
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We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,767
hill83 said:
Said this a few times but I can’t fucking stand the term BAME. It’s not a community.
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It’s also extremely racist to class someone by the ethnicity and/or colour.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,768
hill83 said:
Said this a few times but I can’t fucking stand the term BAME. It’s not a community.
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Agreed. Arguing semantics if the term communities plural is used rather than community singular is that any better, as it indicates they aren't all a single homogeneous group but a variety of groups who have the shared characteristic of not being white?

If the term white community is used, there's plenty of white communities that I'd have pretty much nothing in common with other than skin colour.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,769
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What astounds me is how the government continues to just give ‘advice’ on new variants and isn’t enforcing quarantine of affected individuals. Australia showed how it should be done
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Yep. Utterly incredulous how, after years of talking about gaining control of the borders and with legitimate reason to toughen them up under public health concerns they've not done so.

We're not the same as NZ/Oz (different population densities/they're now in summer and it's very hot) but when you look at their transmissions over the period and how they're now opening up and people are outside it's almost unfathomable why their plans on having enforced quarantine on arrivals haven't been copied. Even in the Middle Ages we knew the value of such measures to restrict/prevent disease yet we've totally ignored all this - I can only imagine it's a massive amount of hubris thinking we're better and smarter than places like Australia now or ourselves in the olden days allied to this total deference to the economy (even though results suggest it's having the opposite effect) that's stopping us.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,770
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yep. Utterly incredulous how, after years of talking about gaining control of the borders and with legitimate reason to toughen them up under public health concerns they've not done so.

We're not the same as NZ/Oz (different population densities/they're now in summer and it's very hot) but when you look at their transmissions over the period and how they're now opening up and people are outside it's almost unfathomable why their plans on having enforced quarantine on arrivals haven't been copied. Even in the Middle Ages we knew the value of such measures to restrict/prevent disease yet we've totally ignored all this - I can only imagine it's a massive amount of hubris thinking we're better and smarter than places like Australia now or ourselves in the olden days allied to this total deference to the economy (even though results suggest it's having the opposite effect) that's stopping us.
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The word quarantine even originates from the 40 day isolation insisted on in some places during the Black Death
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,771
Captain Tom has passed away.

A true british hero for all he did. RIP
 

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,772
Certainly in the last year of his life he was a true hero and true gent
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,773
Saddlebrains said:
Captain Tom has passed away.

A true british hero for all he did. RIP
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had an exciting last few years of life and raised a load of cash for charity so fair play to him.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,774
Very sad news. What a life he had.

Not so keen on his family milking his fame for all its worth though (and I'm sure they will continue to do so).

Also I don’t think going to Barbados was very wise. On the one hand, nice to enjoy his final years and have a nice holiday like that, but on the other hand… what the fuck are you doing taking a 100 year old man on holiday in the middle of a global pandemic?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,775
That's incredibly sobering to read that news. What an absolute hero.

I thought it looked pretty bad when his family were allowed to go into the hospital yesterday, normally signifying end of life care being given.

You are a legend Tom, rest in peace.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,776
R.I.P.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,777
On a more positive note

 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,778
fernandopartridge said:
On a more positive note

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reduction in transmission is great news. Lets hope that applies to these new variants that are popping up.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,779
hill83 said:
Said this a few times but I can’t fucking stand the term BAME. It’s not a community.
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Yeah it's a shitty term, sorry, it's just also the most used term for 'all the non-whiteys', which is a lovely and progressive way to view the world.
 

skyblueinBaku

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,780
Saddlebrains said:
Captain Tom has passed away.

A true british hero for all he did. RIP
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So sad. RIP, Sir Tom.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,781
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Agreed. Arguing semantics if the term communities plural is used rather than community singular is that any better, as it indicates they aren't all a single homogeneous group but a variety of groups who have the shared characteristic of not being white?

If the term white community is used, there's plenty of white communities that I'd have pretty much nothing in common with other than skin colour.
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My issue is why are we defining groups by whether they're white or not? We aren't even the majority colours.

If the issues with say vaccine scepticism are in British Pakistani communities or Afro-Carribean communities, at least that's vaguely accurate. I'm not even sure race is the best way to categorise them, what if we had a large French contingent who are vaccine sceptic, would we say 'White communities'?

It's like when they Green Party decided women should be called 'non-men'.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,782
Captain Tom gave good innings a new definition, hell of a life.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,783
Poor old Tom RIP, a real shame, it’s also a real shame that he attained his 15 minutes of fame raising money for something that should already be taken care of by government.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,784
When do we think average over 7 days of deaths will be below 1000
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,785
fernandopartridge said:
On a more positive note

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That's the kind of news I want to tune in for!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,786
Are they mad?

Covid: France restricts AstraZeneca vaccine to under-65s

It is the latest EU country to limit use of the jab citing lack of efficacy data for elderly people.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,787
Sky Blue Pete said:
Are they mad?

Covid: France restricts AstraZeneca vaccine to under-65s

It is the latest EU country to limit use of the jab citing lack of efficacy data for elderly people.
www.bbc.co.uk
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I wish we waited for the evidence.
 

Brylowes

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,788
This could put the “Bat among the Pigeons“ mind you it also doesn’t rule out that it arrived on the number 22 bus from Saturn.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjkrv3Fn8zuAhVOe8AKHTBeCakQFjAKegQIAhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Fcovid-19-who-team-in-wuhan-sees-data-no-one-has-seen-before-and-does-not-rule-out-coronavirus-escaped-from-a-lab-12206781&usg=AOvVaw1M3IYVYTOiWjbQPeJ6tBoC
 
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chiefdave

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,789
Sky Blue Pete said:
Are they mad?

Covid: France restricts AstraZeneca vaccine to under-65s

It is the latest EU country to limit use of the jab citing lack of efficacy data for elderly people.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Sweden, Poland & Germany have also said under 65s only and Belgium & Italy have gone even further and said under 55s. Hopefully they're just being over cautious until more data is available.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,790
chiefdave said:
Sweden, Poland & Germany have also said under 65s only and Belgium & Italy have gone even further and said under 55s. Hopefully they're just being over cautious until more data is available.
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They’re actions are going to restrict our avenues to getting out of lockdown
 
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