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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,721
hill83 said:
Its a job. Feel free to not take it and not have the job.
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Rather than fire them, make it simply no jab, no shifts for resident safety purposes. Want your shifts get the jab
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,722
It’ll just be a new contract situation. One company is already talking about making it a requirement for new staff to have the vaccine.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,723
I’m all for a no jab no job policy, but not until we’ve got solid proof the vaccines stop the spread as well. If they don’t and it only reduces personal risk, as much as I hate to say it, I can see the personal Liberty angle.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,724
shmmeee said:
I’m all for a no jab no job policy, but not until we’ve got solid proof the vaccines stop the spread as well. If they don’t and it only reduces personal risk, as much as I hate to say it, I can see the personal Liberty angle.
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I agree.

Now, my parents have just come back from Stoneliehg. Said it was pretty empty, and well organised.

My Mum however, slightly excitable, is already talking about having me over for a cup of tea, and reducing distances in the future, and not wearing masks. She's not talking instantly (they communicated at the centre that this is all a bad idea!) but she's missing that actually, she could become a risk to me and Mrs Wisdom! It's not surprising really as she's never really grasped that I won't go in the house, not because I think she's a threat, but because I might be a risk to her.

Despite this, they've complied with just about everything, barely been out but... if she's talking this way, she won't be alone.

And then public opinion makes us open up before we're ready.

Fuckssake Boris, listen to the medical advisors on this, don't fall under your populist tendencies just when we need to be strong for the home run...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,725
Deleted member 5849 said:
I agree.

Now, my parents have just come back from Stoneliehg. Said it was pretty empty, and well organised.

My Mum however, slightly excitable, is already talking about having me over for a cup of tea, and reducing distances in the future, and not wearing masks. She's not talking instantly (they communicated at the centre that this is all a bad idea!) but she's missing that actually, she could become a risk to me and Mrs Wisdom! It's not surprising really as she's never really grasped that I won't go in the house, not because I think she's a threat, but because I might be a risk to her.

Despite this, they've complied with just about everything, barely been out but... if she's talking this way, she won't be alone.

And then public opinion makes us open up before we're ready.

Fuckssake Boris, listen to the medical advisors on this, don't fall under your populist tendencies just when we need to be strong for the home run...
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Exactly. One jab confers little protection for the first few weeks.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,726
hill83 said:
It’ll just be a new contract situation. One company is already talking about making it a requirement for new staff to have the vaccine.
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The problem is that beggars can't be choosers and these companies struggle to recruit as it is.

The big picture is that we as a nation need to get a grip on social care and recognise its value and pay people accordingly. It is only going to get worse.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,727
South African variant of Covid found in eight areas of England | World news | The Guardian

Doing door to door testing, it basically just shows that the billions spent on Dido's call centre is an utter waste of money.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,728
fernandopartridge said:
South African variant of Covid found in eight areas of England | World news | The Guardian

Doing door to door testing, it basically just shows that the billions spent on Dido's call centre is an utter waste of money.
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When was the last time they properly reported on the track and trace performance?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,729
David O'Day said:
When was the last time they properly reported on the track and trace performance?
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They do report but it's high level numbers, no geographic insight.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,730
Another 300,000 jabs in England alone today. Midlands leading the way with 1.6 million
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,731
shmmeee said:
Yeah that too. Low income both BAME and white British have real anti-vax issues. And both large parts of care work workforce. Same in all low paid healthcare jobs from what I can tell.

The missus is always coming home with stories of the mental rumours she hears at UHCW from non-clinical staff.
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What sort of rumours?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,732
Lets hope we don't see any of this over here. Bad enough these people are allowed to spread their views online but closing down vaccine centres is totally out of order.

Covid vaccination: Los Angeles' Dodger Stadium 'closed by protests'

Protests by anti-vaccine and far-right groups forced the closure of Dodger Stadium, local media report.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,733
chiefdave said:
Lets hope we don't see any of this over here. Bad enough these people are allowed to spread their views online but closing down vaccine centres is totally out of order.

Covid vaccination: Los Angeles' Dodger Stadium 'closed by protests'

Protests by anti-vaccine and far-right groups forced the closure of Dodger Stadium, local media report.
www.bbc.co.uk
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I don't believe in violence generally, but teargass the buggers before kneecapping them.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,734
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What sort of rumours?
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“Vaccine doesn’t work”

“The vaccine changes your DNA”

“The vaccine makes you ill”

“wearing masks gives you pneumonia”

“COVID isn’t real, it’s just flu”

“they’re putting COVID on death certificates even when it’s not”

Standard stuff.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,735
shmmeee said:
“Vaccine doesn’t work”

“The vaccine changes your DNA”

“The vaccine makes you ill”

“wearing masks gives you pneumonia”

“COVID isn’t real, it’s just flu”

“they’re putting COVID on death certificates even when it’s not”

Standard stuff.
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and what about the rumours?...
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,736
shmmeee said:
“Vaccine doesn’t work”

“The vaccine changes your DNA”

“The vaccine makes you ill”

“wearing masks gives you pneumonia”

“COVID isn’t real, it’s just flu”

“they’re putting COVID on death certificates even when it’s not”

Standard stuff.
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As a species we've not really moved on that much from when we used to dunk witches have we?

At least in this country we haven't got a serving MP who thinks a giant Jewish laser starts wild fires and Muslim immigration is a Jewish plot to replace white people but it's probably only a matter of time.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,737
clint van damme said:
As a species we've not really moved on that much from when we used to dunk witches have we?

At least in this country we haven't got a serving MP who thinks a giant Jewish laser starts wild fires and Muslim immigration is a Jewish plot to replace white people but it's probably only a matter of time.
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Nah, we just take Toby Young and Julia Hartley-Brewer seriously.

Johnson’s Brexit bollocks was pretty close.
 

Mcbean

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,738
clint van damme said:
As a species we've not really moved on that much from when we used to dunk witches have we?

At least in this country we haven't got a serving MP who thinks a giant Jewish laser starts wild fires and Muslim immigration is a Jewish plot to replace white people but it's probably only a matter of time.
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But Sisu is being blamed for David Icke - what a tool
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,739
cases, hospitalisations and deaths all down on last Monday, vaccinations at nearly 10 million, slowly but surely going in the right direction, long way to go though.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,740
shmmeee said:
“Vaccine doesn’t work”

“The vaccine changes your DNA”

“The vaccine makes you ill”

“wearing masks gives you pneumonia”

“COVID isn’t real, it’s just flu”

“they’re putting COVID on death certificates even when it’s not”

Standard stuff.
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And that's just members of a the current cabinet
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,741
Is the countries morale at an all time low? I have no idea what will cause restrictions to start being lifted. Read the news and all you see is mixed messages “start being lifted in March” “end of the year” “never be completely back to normal”
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,742
Brilliant news from Israel

Covid: Israel's vaccine rollout linked to infection fall

Less than 0.1% of vaccinated people caught coronavirus, and far fewer became ill.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,743
Rich said:
I bet you didn’t think you’d started the thread of the decade.
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I wish I never had to write it, but no idea as you say Rich , unbelievable.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,744
Sky Blue Pete said:
Brilliant news from Israel

Covid: Israel's vaccine rollout linked to infection fall

Less than 0.1% of vaccinated people caught coronavirus, and far fewer became ill.
www.bbc.co.uk
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they are following manufacturers guidelines though
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 1, 2021
  • #41,745
David O'Day said:
they are following manufacturers guidelines though
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They have published some studies showing a difference with one jab haven't they?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,746

Covid-19: People in South African variant test areas urged to 'think twice'

Those in areas where the South African variant was found should further limit time outside, a minister says.
www.bbc.co.uk

If it’s spread in the community so far already is this not shutting the door when the variant has bolted? I think on balance it’s right to try but it’s already spread surely
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,747
following the science

PM 'ignored SAGE warning to close borders over South Africa variant'

It has emerged that SAGE advised the government that Britain's borders must be closed to stop the new variant of coronavirus spreading.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 

stupot07

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,748
He is such a inept c**t


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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,749
stupot07 said:
He is such a inept c**t


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‘You must have some sort of system?’

‘It’s all up there’

‘No it’s not though’

‘Most of it is’
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,750
stupot07 said:
He is such a inept c**t


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When Priti Patel is on the good side, there's a shift!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,751
My brother in laws dad is still stable but still on oxygen

My friend whose wife died is now out of itu and looking at coming home to get better

Perked me up no end
 
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Otis

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,752
Sky Blue Pete said:
My brother in laws dad is still stable but still on oxygen

My friend whose wife died is now out of itu and looking at coming home to get better

Perked me up no end
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Glad to hear it.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,753
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What sort of rumours?
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The one I heard last week and apparently widely believed in BAME communities is that all the vaccines have only been tested on white people therefore there’s no evidence that it’s safe for the BAME community and as a form of white privilege they’re just going to roll it out in BAME communities to save on the development costs in making sure it’s safe for people of BAME background.

It is of course complete nonsense on the same level that Bill Gates puts a microchip in it but decades of being treated as worthless citizens makes an environment in a community where shit like this is easy to believe.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,754
stupot07 said:
He is such a inept c**t


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A certain radio presenter has been making the point for weeks now that only the vaccines can save us from Boris. Difficult to dismiss when things like this come out.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 2, 2021
  • #41,755
Looks like the door to door knocking is not just because of the 'South African strain', it looks like there is a further mutation which is antibody resistant to differing extents. Great. Not sure whether severity of illness is the same.
 
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