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PVA

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,546
baldy said:
Not really...covid's put down as cause of death for most things...funny how there's no winter flu anymore either
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Who says there's no winter flu?

Why are intensive care units so busy?

Why are there so many excess deaths?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,547
baldy said:
Not really...covid's put down as cause of death for most things...funny how there's no winter flu anymore either
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clint van damme said:
some of the shit I've read makes my fucking blood boil.
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Get the blood kettle on, clint.
 

baldy

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,548
Skybluefaz said:
We doing this dance again? Go on then find me a link to where it says the R number being below one means we can end lockdown now.
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You probably want to stay scared still though..oh well
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,549
baldy said:
You probably want to stay scared still though..oh well
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Mate a long time poster on here died from it, wasn’t even 40 I think
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,550
baldy said:
You probably want to stay scared still though..oh well
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Pathetic, feeble-minded, ridiculous reponse.

You are a clueless arse who is dangerous because you believe, in your heart, you have a brain.

With freedom of speech comes responsibility not to be a dangerous moron.
 
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covmark

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,551
baldy said:
You probably want to stay scared still though..oh well
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Mate, you'll probably find a good proportion of this forum have in some way been affected by the virus. So fuck off with this shit.

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,552
baldy said:
You probably want to stay scared still though..oh well
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You're an idiot. And a dangerous one at that.

Have a read of these. Someone just like you. Dead aged 46 because he believed all the shit he read on the Internet from people like you.

‘Covid denier’ Gary Matthews dies from the virus alone day after testing positive


‘Covid denier’ dies from the virus alone day after testing positive

The family of a “Covid denier” said they begged him to wear facemask before he died alone in his flat from the virus that has claimed over 100,000 Brits.
www.standard.co.uk

Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger life | Nick Cohen

One man’s tragic tale reveals much about the reach and harm of anti-science propaganda
www.theguardian.com
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,553
xcraigx said:
Do we really have the highest date rate in the world?
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Per capita it’s Belgium the same measure shows the US have performed better so far than 5 European countries
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,554
baldy said:
You probably want to stay scared still though..oh well
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You've already been put in your place but personally I'm desperate for normality. I'm one of the lucky ones, been working from home. Both parents now had the jab. Friend of mine lost her dad to it last week in his 60's. Fucking tragic.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,555
baldy said:
It's actually-28
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What does this mean? Can not just send me a link to the scientific data saying we can end lockdown now.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,556
In pleasing news, other half’s grandad (75) has been offered four different places he can receive his jab and he can choose where to receive it. Very impressed I have to say, lives in a more rural area too
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,557
Skybluefaz said:
What does this mean? Can not just send me a link to the scientific data saying we can end lockdown now.
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r<1 just means we're getting less spread... which is the whole point of lockdown anyway - that would be a good thing, but not an automatic need to lift lockdown until figures come down sufficiently that it can be done, without having to slam everything shut straight away again.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,558
Deleted member 5849 said:
r<1 just means we're getting less spread... which is the whole point of lockdown anyway - that would be a good thing, but not an automatic need to lift lockdown until figures come down sufficiently that it can be done, without having to slam everything shut straight away again.
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No I get that bit cheers, Baldy sent something saying "it's -28 actually". Just questioning that.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,559
baldy said:
You probably want to stay scared still though..oh well
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Literally people on this forum have fucking died from it you stupid Twat.

As for the 28 day thing, it’s how statistics work and it’s a way to easily track them and assess correlation.

I hope even though you’re stupid enough to be some kind of denier, that you’re still at least wearing face masks and being responsible- so that you’re not endangering other people’s health with your ignorance
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,560
Some universities starting to re-open their libraries again... for the mental health of students who can't go home.

It's not a social event, so I don't quite see how re-opening libraries helps them, beyond any other student who gets access to digital services, whether they're living in the town their university is in atm, or not!
 

hill83

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,561
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In pleasing news, other half’s grandad (75) has been offered four different places he can receive his jab and he can choose where to receive it. Very impressed I have to say, lives in a more rural area too
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Left arm
Right leg
Arse

What’s the fourth location?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2021
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Skybluefaz said:
No I get that bit cheers, Baldy sent something saying "it's -28 actually". Just questioning that.
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That's beoz yoo iz scared and deny da troof.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,563
Deleted member 5849 said:
r<1 just means we're getting less spread... which is the whole point of lockdown anyway - that would be a good thing, but not an automatic need to lift lockdown until figures come down sufficiently that it can be done, without having to slam everything shut straight away again.
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Cases matter less than hospitalisations and deaths which will always take time to materialise in the data.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,564
hill83 said:
Left arm
Right leg
Arse

What’s the fourth location?
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Urethra
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,565
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Cases matter less than hospitalisations and deaths which will always take time to materialise in the data.
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Indeed. Is why it's frustrating we don't act faster when cases start rising, too - as we know what'll happen, so why do we wait until it does!
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,566
Deleted member 5849 said:
Some universities starting to re-open their libraries again... for the mental health of students who can't go home.

It's not a social event, so I don't quite see how re-opening libraries helps them, beyond any other student who gets access to digital services, whether they're living in the town their university is in atm, or not!
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Probably because being stuck in your room having to do uni work is an absolute nightmare. It’s extremely hard working from home too I know but often that involves interaction with others through Teams/zoom etc. I couldn’t write any papers at my uni house in my room I was in the library every day
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,567
Deleted member 5849 said:
Indeed. Is why it's frustrating we don't act faster when cases start rising, too - as we know what'll happen, so why do we wait until it does!
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Because it takes deaths and hospitalisations for the politicians to realise their folly.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,568
robbiekeane said:
Probably because being stuck in your room having to do uni work is an absolute nightmare. It’s extremely hard working from home too I know but often that involves interaction with others through Teams/zoom etc. I couldn’t write any papers at my uni house in my room I was in the library every day
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My degree course had plenty of lab only and lab research modules, no idea how the unis are managing these.
 
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  • Jan 30, 2021
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robbiekeane said:
Probably because being stuck in your room having to do uni work is an absolute nightmare. It’s extremely hard working from home too I know but often that involves interaction with others through Teams/zoom etc. I couldn’t write any papers at my uni house in my room I was in the library every day
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But it can be interaction with others through Teams/zoom etc anyway. Whether you're in the town/city of the university is irrelevant to that!

We're also talking the wealthier contingent from overseas here, too, in the main - they're not short of resource - we're not talking a hovel with half a dozen pot smoking hippies cluttering the landings.
 

hill83

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,570
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Urethra
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Some universities starting to re-open their libraries again... for the mental health of students who can't go home.

It's not a social event, so I don't quite see how re-opening libraries helps them, beyond any other student who gets access to digital services, whether they're living in the town their university is in atm, or not!
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I’d guess it’s for some small form of university life that they’ve paid for.

Edit: Leaving the incorrect quote at the top
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,571
Deleted member 5849 said:
Get the blood kettle on, clint.
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In keeping with his general contribution.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2021
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hill83 said:
I’d guess it’s for some small form of university life that they’ve paid for.
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It's solely because a) government expects universities to act as commercial enterprises and b) government isn't seeing fit to bail out tuition fees (which given they've managed just about every other business, seems slightly absurd).

The mental health argument is a whitewash for a solely commercial decision, and is false concern for mental health. If it was, they'd be asking staff, too...
 
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xcraigx

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,573
Grendel said:
Per capita it’s Belgium the same measure shows the US have performed better so far than 5 European countries
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You can probably add Russia to the list too. Their deputy prime minister admitted 80% of their excess deaths involved COVID so around three times what their official count is. As he's not disappeared or been poisoned i'm inclined to believe he wasn't speaking out of turn.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,574
Deleted member 5849 said:
It's solely because a) government expects universities to act as commercial enterprises and b) government isn't seeing fit to bail out tuition fees (which given they've managed just about every other business, seems slightly absurd).

The mental health argument is a whitewash for a solely commercial decision, and is false concern for mental health. If it was, they'd be asking staff, too...
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The government pay for most Tuition fees anyway
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,575
Deleted member 5849 said:
It's not a social event, so I don't quite see how re-opening libraries helps them
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hill83 said:
I’d guess it’s for some small form of university life that they’ve paid for.
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robbiekeane said:
Probably because being stuck in your room having to do uni work is an absolute nightmare. It’s extremely hard working from home too I know but often that involves interaction with others through Teams/zoom etc. I couldn’t write any papers at my uni house in my room I was in the library every day
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Deleted member 5849 said:
It's solely because a) government expects universities to act as commercial enterprises and b) government isn't seeing fit to bail out tuition fees (which given they've managed just about every other business, seems slightly absurd).

The mental health argument is a whitewash for a solely commercial decision, and is false concern for mental health. If it was, they'd be asking staff, too...
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I mean, you said you didn’t see how it helps students and you got a couple of valid ways in which it does. Feels like you did know though and you just wanted to argue how it was a money spinner or they’re not more hard done by than anyone else....will leave you to it
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,576
 
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  • Jan 30, 2021
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robbiekeane said:
The government pay for most Tuition fees anyway
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Not for overseas students they don't.
 
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  • Jan 30, 2021
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robbiekeane said:
I mean, you said you didn’t see how it helps students and you got a couple of valid ways in which it does. Feels like you did know though and you just wanted to argue how it was a money spinner or they’re not more hard done by than anyone else....will leave you to it
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Bullshit. It's not a social event to go to the library, and they have the same access as any student to digital facilities, so focussing on the overseas students' mental health is a falsehood, covering the increased cost and potential loss to a university.

Here, is in fact, why consideration is being given to overseas students.

Loss of international student fees could decimate UK research

Coronavirus will put almost every university in financial jeopardy unless the government steps in, vice-chancellors say
www.theguardian.com

The numbers involved are less than the numbers of staff - which if we're talking mental health issues, then they would consult them *as well* rather than just offering a dictat to open up for others.

Seems like you just want an argument without any awareness of the reality, so will leae you to it.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2021
  • #41,579
Deleted member 5849 said:
It's solely because a) government expects universities to act as commercial enterprises and b) government isn't seeing fit to bail out tuition fees (which given they've managed just about every other business, seems slightly absurd).

The mental health argument is a whitewash for a solely commercial decision, and is false concern for mental health. If it was, they'd be asking staff, too...
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The Blair government used education as a means of massaging unemployment figures which has just been carried on. Courses should be free and there should be support but many even Russell group universities offer disastrous quality compared to a couple of decades ago.

No government will ever be brave enough but the reality is that many universities and courses are sub HND level from years ago.
 
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  • Jan 30, 2021
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Grendel said:
The Blair government used education as a means of massaging unemployment figures which has just been carried on. Courses should be free and there should be support but many even Russell group universities offer disastrous quality compared to a couple of decades ago.

No government will ever be brave enough but the reality is that many universities and courses are sub HND level from years ago.
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Believe it or not, I agree with you.

It's a farce that courses are solely run to make money.
 
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