David O'Day
Well-Known Member
Why the 2 main players support controls. Italy as well.
The internal full out between member states and EU is going to be massive.
They will all play happy families in the media. But the knifes will be out for UVDL.
But in other news as so much happens yesterday. Novavax looks a really exciting and game changing vaccine.
one major blunder after another from the EU on this issue.
At least they've backed down on their NI protocol threat.
Where did I say I liked it? I made a glib joke about it.
Why lie about things that are easy to check?
Glib joke
Throwaway comment
Always the same, just own it
Except Swayne.
What are you taking about? Get help.
I don’t need help, you have been trying to do ‘weird flexes’ as you call them on other posts on here for a while as a new MO in place of the c-bombs you were dropping all over the shop. You made a joke about a suspected bomb package going to a vaccine factory, which hadn’t actually been dealt with when it was made.
Even if it didn’t go off it still put another delay into manufacturing
Every leader has done better. We have the highest death rate in the world. Killed more in the second wave than we did the first because “we” learned the sum total of fuck all from the first wave.
Boris’ best is the worst in the world. It really is that simple.
Yeah, ultimately if we're all vaccinated, but other countries carry on, developing all manner of variants, it doesn't help us long term.
So we need to be the bigger (wo)men, and take the PR win, which is in our interest anyway.
And making sure we hedge ourselves against potentially vaccine-busting mutations is the best way to do that. Imagine if we vaccinated everybody and it turned out to be useless against new variants, while those later to the party had a nice adapted vaccine ready to go?When - it might sound selfish but we’ve got to get our population safe(r) first.
I don’t doubt we will do our bit. The question will be when and how
When - it might sound selfish but we’ve got to get our population safe(r) first.
How - this is the tricky bit, who do we release any spares to ? Our nearest neighbours or developing countries that can’t afford their own supply ? What do we release ? what happens if we release spare of a certain vaccine that then proves to be more effective against a new/different variants in future (and leave ourselves short) ? Some tricky considerations but sure we will do our bit (as we have done with vaccine development, genomic sequencing and global vaccine sharing scheme/fund)
Many millions in our country disagree
And? There are millions of idiots in this country.
Nobody can say that this Prime Minister and this government have done a good job of this pandemic. Because they haven't.
100,000 people are dead ffs.
And making sure we hedge ourselves against potentially vaccine-busting mutations is the best way to do that. Imagine if we vaccinated everybody and it turned out to be useless against new variants, while those later to the party had a nice adapted vaccine ready to go?
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100% agree. Medium term this has got to be an international effort. That’s why I mentioned the global vaccine distributions fund (Covax) - we contributed £500m, one of the most, if not the most of any country (well it was at the time)
Countries pledge nearly US$ 1 billion to support equitable access to COVID-19 vaccines
The United Kingdom, Canada, Germany, Italy and Sweden pledge approximately US$ 960 million to Gavi’s COVID-19 Vaccines Advance Market Commitment (COVAX AMC)www.gavi.org
I think EU have increased theirs to 500m since the article
Plenty of mistakes in this country in terms of containing the outbreak but I hope it’s recognised how outward looking we have been throughout the outbreak with the assistance mentioned in my previous post. Something we should be proud about
And? There are millions of idiots in this country.
Nobody can say that this Prime Minister and this government have done a good job of this pandemic. Because they haven't.
100,000 people are dead ffs.
If you trust the figures that is
If Baldy says so, it must be true.R rate's below 1 now officially so come on Boris...out of lockdown now - no need for it
I agree, though I think the handling on school returns is another bungling on the horizon. One jab to the 4 groups is not enough to justify that.
If Baldy says so, it must be true.
If you trust the figures that is
No panic mate, Williamson’s all over it
Seriously though, they have said 8 March earliest and I’d imagine that will be driven by rates (as well as vacs). Could possibly differ by region and also even possibly what variant is prominent (and whether it’s more transmissible in kids)
Plenty of twists and turns over next five weeks I’d imagine. Finger crossed it’s heading in the right direction
That's if you believe you are infected. Sheep.You don’t stop taking antibiotics as soon as you start feeling better...you finish the treatment to properly kill off the infection. Same in this case
Yes, I do trust the figures. Why wouldn't I?
If Baldy says so, it must be true.
When you have people falling off roofs & cracking their skull open & cause of death being corona then that's kind of a bit odd me thinks
If anything, the figures are an underestimation
Got any proof of that?
And what about people that die from Covid after 28 days?
If anything the numbers are under reported.
Also how do you explain the excess deaths?
Not really...covid's put down as cause of death for most things...funny how there's no winter flu anymore either
We doing this dance again? Go on then find me a link to where it says the R number being below one means we can end lockdown now.ONS website...all in black & white
We doing this dance again? Go on then find me a link to where it says the R number being below one means we can end lockdown now.
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