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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,441
PVA said:
No just thought it was worth pointing out that the DUP are kicking off about something they've been trying for weeks.

Wouldn't expect anything else from those hypocritical weasels though.
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I'm not sure what you've said about Foster is right.
Yes, many unionists wanted it invoked but they've been giving Foster shit for not backing their stance. Though far be it from me to defend the old boot.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,442
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They were trying to get a block on vaccines reaching Britain through NI? Eh?
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No nothing to do with vaccines, but they have been trying to invoke it for weeks.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,443
David O'Day said:
No as you were painting them as unhappy at everything the EU has done.
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I wasn't but ok
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,444
David O'Day said:
They are unhappy with the invoking of article 16 which puts a temp hard border in Ireland.

That is what they are unhappy with
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That's not the EU's handling of course
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,445
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I wasn't but ok
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Ok but need loads more dragons
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,446
fernandopartridge said:
That's not the EU's handling of course
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You're having a mare sadly.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,447
David O'Day said:
Ok but need loads more dragons
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The EU's most recent 'handling' is to re-invoke the hard border

Dublin don't like it

There is no attempt to claim that the ROI is dissatisfied with everything done
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,448
David O'Day said:
What can we do though if they take the next step from the controls they have enacted today?
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Not sure there is much we can do but you would expect some strongly worded statements around breach of trust etc, probably legal action against Pfizer (assuming they blocked Pfizer export) and/or EU (not sure of the international law/how it impacts trade agreement so don’t quote me though) and it would lead to us and potentially other nations refusing to export vaccines to the EU due to trust being broken. Who knows though. Let’s hope it doesn’t get that far
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,449
You just said their handling no reference to recent.

Anyway moving on
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,450
David O'Day said:
You're having a mare sadly.
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You are, you're trying to misrepresent people to get one of your little victories. Keep trying Dave
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,451
CCFCSteve said:
Not sure there is much we can do but you would expect some strongly worded statements around breach of trust etc, probably legal action against Pfizer (assuming they blocked Pfizer export) and/or EU (not sure of the international law/how it impacts trade agreement so don’t quote me though) and it would lead to us and potentially other nations refusing to export vaccines to the EU due to trust being broken. Who knows though. Let’s hope it doesn’t get that far
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Retaliatory controls would be a mistake
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,452
fernandopartridge said:
Retaliatory controls would be a mistake
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100%. I was responding to DODs reply asking what we could do in response anyway, so was more hypothesising. Should’ve used the word possibly not probably. Who knows though and as I say hopefully it would never come to that.

Ps might also depend on impact to our roll out strategy, if it’s not significant then would definitely just sit tight.
 

jordan210

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,453
even the Archbishop getting involved

 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,454
This is hilarious - where’s Mart these days
 

jordan210

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,455
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,456
Grendel said:
This is hilarious - where’s Mart these days
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His successor is not a great tribute act
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,457
Where will this all go next. Complete and utter carnage.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,458
hill83 said:
Where will this all go next. Complete and utter carnage.
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If I didn't know better I'd say they're hoping for retaliation to get the member states someone to vent at besides themselves.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,459
hill83 said:
Where will this all go next. Complete and utter carnage.
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It’s safe to say we would never be allowed back in the club - the snarling embittered federalist movement that the EU always has been is exposed for all to see - the latest threat over Ireland given its pretend concern over the GFA is genuinely disgraceful
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,460
hill83 said:
Where will this all go next.
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On a practical level, make sure those who've had one jab, get their second!

Shouldn't be squabbling over something so serious, though - there has to be a solution.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,461
Deleted member 5849 said:
On a practical level, make sure those who've had one jab, get their second!

Shouldn't be squabbling over something so serious, though - there has to be a solution.
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Eu are a disgrace aren’t they?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,462
Grendel said:
Eu are a disgrace aren’t they?
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It's ridiculous to be breaking Northern Ireland, yes.
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,463
I'm not one of these flagpoles in the sand won't change my mind no matter what sort of people and this is seriously pissing me off what's happening right now. Even taking vaccines out of it I hope it doesn't have further consequences in the future.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,464
Deleted member 5849 said:
It's ridiculous to be breaking Northern Ireland, yes.
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Behaving with dignity otherwise?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,465
Grendel said:
Eu are a disgrace aren’t they?
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It's an odd way of getting someone to comply with forfeiting a vaccine they ordered 3 months before you
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,466
hill83 said:
I'm not one of these flagpoles in the sand won't change my mind no matter what sort of people and this is seriously pissing me off what's happening right now. Even taking vaccines out of it I hope it doesn't have further consequences in the future.
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Agreed
 

Otis

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,467
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Why you posting magnet pics dude
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Better than him posting dick pics
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,468
hill83 said:
Where will this all go next. Complete and utter carnage.
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Can't go that far with it being lockdown n that
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,469
What can the UK do though? It would be madness to invoke article 16 themselves as that would be a Republicans wet dream and how can we take on a trading bloc the size of the EU.

Pfizer has mentioned maybe moving their production out of the EU but that isn't realistic as they are struggling to provide enough Vaccines anyway and really, really need the Sanofi plant in France they have signed up to product their vaccine.

The J+J vaccine is also made and developed in the EU by Janssens in Belgium.

I don't think the EU really think they will get any AZ UK produced Vaccines but they can give the UK a serious kicking.

Also it seems to be not just about the UK they left Russia and the US off their Vaccine control exemption list.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,470
Sturgeon attempting to suck up to EU by releasing the figures on supplies of vaccine allocated to Scotland. Cannot despise this woman and her cause any further, doesn't deserve half the poll numbers she gets.

 
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hill83

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,471
Tbf just publish them. Why hide it? Fucking hate politics.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,472
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sturgeon attempting to suck up to EU by releasing the figures on supplies of vaccine allocated to Scotland. Cannot despise this woman and her cause any further, doesn't deserve half the poll numbers she gets.

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What an arsehole. She's actually just like the brexiteers she hates. It would be brilliant to see how exposed she would be should they gain independence.

BTW, I have absolutely nothing against independent Scotland conceptually but I don't believe her or the rest of the SNP are good faith actors.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,473
hill83 said:
Tbf just publish them. Why hide it? Fucking hate politics.
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I agree with this, why not publish? The Uk doesn't have anything to hide
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,474
The EU have backed down and now withdrawn article 16. Fuckwits

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hill83

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,475
stupot07 said:
The EU have backed down and now withdrawn article 16. Fuckwits

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They are putting it down to "an error".

 
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