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clint van damme

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,371
SBT said:
J&J single-shot vaccine results are out:

* 66% effective
* 85% effective against severe disease

I'd have to hear what the experts say before weighing in about whether this is brilliant, a disaster, or somewhere in between. But clearly there's a huge range of efficacy across the various vaccines.
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Sounds promising. Expected second half of 2021.
Imagine if the top 9 categories of the most vulnerable are done by then and all the young pups can get done with a single shot.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,372
PVA said:
You claimed " The reason we were able to go faster was because we were not part of the EMA APA, which prevents EU participants from procuring outside of EMA approval. Why weren't we? Brexit."

This is false. I'm not playing semantics, what you have said is false.

I'm not making myself look silly by pointing out facts (though actually maybe that is considered silly by Leavers).
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It isn't false at all.

The only people looking silly are the ones that think brexit had absolutely nothing to do with where we are with the vaccine roll out.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,373
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It isn't false at all.

The only people looking silly are the ones that think brexit had absolutely nothing to do with where we are with the vaccine roll out.
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It is false ffs.

The Boss Of The UK's Vaccine Regulator Has Contradicted Matt Hancock’s Claim We Approved A Covid Jab Before The EU Due To Brexit

Matt Hancock’s claim the UK has approved a vaccine for Covid-19 before the EU because of Brexit has been contradicted by the chief executive of the...
www.politicshome.com

From the article:
"But it appears the UK’s decision to approve the vaccine ahead of the EU is down to the use of a longstanding provision which allows an individual country to diverge from the EMA in the case of urgent public need.

And as the UK is still operating under the EU regulatory framework until the end of the Brexit transition period on 31 December the decision on the Pfizer jab was not due to the decision to leave the continental trading bloc."



Matt Hancock in talking shit shocker.

Can you point me in the direction of a source which says the opposite?

Can you explain how Hungary managed it despite being in the EU?
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,374
Vaccinations back up again which is obviously great news (443k)

Case numbers still stubbornly high (29k), frustrating when in lockdown, schools off etc however at least dropping a fair bit week in week (30%). Also as a percentage of tests taken its reduced massively. Was about 10% at peak however there was 750k tests yesterday so good reduction (still don’t know about tests/people tested but as a comparison it’s a lot better)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,375
CCFCSteve said:
Vaccinations back up again which is obviously great news (443k)

Case numbers still stubbornly high (29k), frustrating when in lockdown, schools off etc however at least dropping a fair bit week in week (30%). Also as a percentage of tests taken its reduced massively. Was about 10% at peak however there was 750k tests yesterday so good reduction (still don’t know about tests/people tested but as a comparison it’s a lot better)
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Presume it’s Scotland letting the side down jacking off Sturgeon for being the slowest
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,376
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Presume it’s Scotland letting the side down jacking off Sturgeon for being the slowest
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To be fair (I hate to say it as we share the same opinion of her) they have upped their game with 53k yesterday

Edit - I tell a lie(ish), they didn’t post any numbers for the day before so average of c27k per day for past two days
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,377
CCFCSteve said:
To be fair (I hate to say it as we share the same opinion of her) they have upped their game with 53k yesterday
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Which is fair enough I just get pissed off with her approval ratings for making little tweaks to Johnson’s moves and being behind the rest of the UK on vaccines that Westminster procured ahead of anyone else
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,378
The EU have enacted rules that means vaccine exports basically have to be approve
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,379
David O'Day said:
The EU have enacted rules that means vaccine exports basically have to be approve
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Making Remainers like me burn through the goodwill pretty quick
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,380
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which is fair enough I just get pissed off with her approval ratings for making little tweaks to Johnson’s moves and being behind the rest of the UK on vaccines that Westminster procured ahead of anyone else
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she’s a sneaky one (a good ‘politician’ in that sense). She has chosen to apply slightly stricter measures all the way through (knowing public opinion supports her....and the UK will probably pick up the tab)
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,381
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Making Remainers like me burn through the goodwill pretty quick
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we'd do exactly the same
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,382
David O'Day said:
The EU have enacted rules that means vaccine exports basically have to be approve
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Trump like protectionism
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,383
fernandopartridge said:
Trump like protectionism
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it's very opposite, protectionism seeks to limit imports
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,384
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Making Remainers like me burn through the goodwill pretty quick
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Same
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,385
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Making Remainers like me burn through the goodwill pretty quick
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Their conduct is just making me cringe now to be honest. I know people (rightly) said if Johnson broke the WA it would damage our reputation internationally (although I think we all felt it was probably a negotiation tactic)... I think their current conduct is that multiplied by ten (let’s hope it’s also only a negotiation tactic and not implemented ie exports stopped)

The fact is whichever side of the brexit debate we were all on their our nearest neighbours and ultimately we should all be on the same side. I think they will regret this but ultimately as I’ve alluded to earlier I think maybe there is more at play/stake here ie look at the spread of the vaccines across the EU countries, it’s not been an equal split so far
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,386
why is anyone shocked the eu is only interested in the interests of the eu?
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,387
David O'Day said:
why is anyone shocked the eu is only interested in the interests of the eu?
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I don't think anyone is shocked at that. Every country is of course acting in their best interests. But every country is struggling to get the amount of doses they ordered and they aren't all storming into manufacturing facilities or trying to block doses reaching other countries.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,388
David O'Day said:
it's very opposite, protectionism seeks to limit imports
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Oh yes, it's definitely the opposite of protectionism which is to allow unrestrained international trade. LOL
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,389
David O'Day said:
why is anyone shocked the eu is only interested in the interests of the eu?
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Who's shocked? Beautiful sidestep though to slightly change the angle of your point.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,390
David O'Day said:
why is anyone shocked the eu is only interested in the interests of the eu?
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That's fair enough, but if they've signed a piss poor contract with AZ which is unenforceable, they should not be using legislation to otherwise restrain AZ's ability to export its goods. It is a massive overreach.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,391
fernandopartridge said:
That's fair enough, but if they've signed a piss poor contract with AZ which is unenforceable, they should not be using legislation to otherwise restrain AZ's ability to export its goods. It is a massive overreach.
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Im more concerned if they stop exports of Pfizer that again, other nations acquired ahead of them.

This could unravel badly. Let’s just hope they see sense and don’t actually stop any vaccines being exported
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,392
Always worries me when no deaths are announced on John Hopkins

brother in laws dad and friend from church both in itu at uhcw

Friend from church wife died last week heart attack after severe Covid. Praying their kids don’t lose both mum and dad in a fortnight

only mid 50’s. Kids in their 20’s bless them

Feeling emotional
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,393
fernandopartridge said:
Oh yes, it's definitely the opposite of protectionism which is to allow unrestrained international trade. LOL
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Protectionism as I said the act of seeking to limit imports to "protect" manufacturers of a country i.e. Trump increasing tariffs on Chinese imports.

The EU are seeking to limited exports not imports.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,394
CCFCSteve said:
Vaccinations back up again which is obviously great news (443k)

Case numbers still stubbornly high (29k), frustrating when in lockdown, schools off etc however at least dropping a fair bit week in week (30%). Also as a percentage of tests taken its reduced massively. Was about 10% at peak however there was 750k tests yesterday so good reduction (still don’t know about tests/people tested but as a comparison it’s a lot better)
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It’s because it’s not fucking lockdown. Although schools in general are not open to majority of students the average for Primary is anywhere between 30% and 50% depending on region (I have school colleagues that send their kids into school even though they work at home every day bar one day in 2 weeks) Shit employers are forcing their employees into the office for no good reason. Not to mention public transport being packed in certain places/times and it may go to explain the stubbornness of the positive cases.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,395
The EU regs being drawn up to block exports have to be enacted at the discretion of a member state. I doubt very much an individual state would be as silly so as to apply it.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,396
Sky Blue Pete said:
Always worries me when no deaths are announced on John Hopkins

brother in laws dad and friend from church both in itu at uhcw

Friend from church wife died last week heart attack after severe Covid. Praying their kids don’t lose both mum and dad in a fortnight

Feeling emotional
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Really hope alls ok mate. Fingers crossed
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,397
hill83 said:
Who's shocked? Beautiful sidestep though to slightly change the angle of your point.
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Change? This was a direct reply to you and BSB.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,398
Ian1779 said:
It’s because it’s not fucking lockdown. Although schools in general are not open to majority of students the average for Primary is anywhere between 30% and 50% depending on region (I have school colleagues that send their kids into school even though they work at home every day bar one day in 2 weeks) Shit employers are forcing their employees into the office for no good reason. Not to mention public transport being packed in certain places/times and it may go to explain the stubbornness of the positive cases.
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TBH case numbers got so high, 81k by specimen date on 29th Dec, so with R around or just below 1 it is going to take some time for that number to fall
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,399
fernandopartridge said:
The EU regs being drawn up to block exports have to be enacted at the discretion of a member state. I doubt very much an individual state would be as silly so as to apply it.
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Really? Belgium will
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,400
France probably as well
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,401
fernandopartridge said:
TBH case numbers got so high, 81k by specimen date on 29th Dec, so with R around or just below 1 it is going to take some time for that number to fall
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Do you think it not being a proper lockdown will drag this along further?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,402
Ian1779 said:
It’s because it’s not fucking lockdown. Although schools in general are not open to majority of students the average for Primary is anywhere between 30% and 50% depending on region (I have school colleagues that send their kids into school even though they work at home every day bar one day in 2 weeks) Shit employers are forcing their employees into the office for no good reason.
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Its not even just down to shit employers, its down to parents who can't be bothered to look after their own kids.

We had a team meeting yesterday and several people who are working from home 100% of the time spoke about how their kids were in nursery or school as they'd managed to get their partner classed as an essential worker and apparently it only needs one parent to qualify.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,403
Ian1779 said:
It’s because it’s not fucking lockdown. Although schools in general are not open to majority of students the average for Primary is anywhere between 30% and 50% depending on region (I have school colleagues that send their kids into school even though they work at home every day bar one day in 2 weeks) Shit employers are forcing their employees into the office for no good reason. Not to mention public transport being packed in certain places/times and it may go to explain the stubbornness of the positive cases.
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Fair point Ian...boozers and gyms are shut though...two key components in my life
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,404
Does anyone really see them going through with the threat to block exports. Imagine you're the country whose order is blocked because the EU want to jump the queue, are you just going to shrug your shoulders and say OK. Look what happened when there was even a rumour that India was planning to do similar, huge pressure was put on them and they very quickly had to come out and say it wouldn't happen.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2021
  • #41,405
chiefdave said:
Its not even just down to shit employers, its down to parents who can't be bothered to look after their own kids.

We had a team meeting yesterday and several people who are working from home 100% of the time spoke about how their kids were in nursery or school as they'd managed to get their partner classed as an essential worker and apparently it only needs one parent to qualify.
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People definitely playing the game this time (not going to point fingers as it can’t be easy for anyone). The key workers list is ridiculous which is governments fault
 
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