Brighton Sky Blue
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I have seen section 5.4 and it is ambiguous on the effect of Brexit as to whether or not those sites still qualify.
they are separate the UK facilities and EU facilities. It says the UK is only counted as partof teh EU as per section 5.4 which is latenrative manufacturing plants
From a legal standpoint how would best effort but the EU at the head of the queue when demand worldwide far outstrips supply?
You would assume everyone else who placed orders, in some cases many months before the EU did, didn't sign up to be pushed down the queue if the EU finally got round to ordering.
Seems to boil down to the fact there is limited supply and the EU were slow to order so are behind other countries in the queue.
From a legal standpoint how would best effort but the EU at the head of the queue when demand worldwide far outstrips supply?
You would assume everyone else who placed orders, in some cases many months before the EU did, didn't sign up to be pushed down the queue if the EU finally got round to ordering.
Seems to boil down to the fact there is limited supply and the EU were slow to order so are behind other countries in the queue.
I have seen section 5.4 and it is ambiguous on the effect of Brexit as to whether or not those sites still qualify.
Their contract does seem to state the can get UK produced vaccines if clause 5.4 is triggered which the can't produce them at EU sites.
I can see why they are annoyed at AZ and sadly it's normal people who will have to pay.
No it's not
It clearly states it
They have the right to access UK produced vaccines but nowhere does it say they have the right to receive UK produced vaccines ahead of other people who've ordered first. It's not 'first dibs' on vaccine produced in the UK or a 'fastpass' to beat queues at a theme park. It's a fallback option to try and reduce their waiting time. It doesn't give them preferential treatment.
That was going to be my question. Obviously I'm not a lawyer but I can't see where that says they can jump the queue ahead of those who ordered months before them.This does not state they have the right to seize products from the sites ordered ahead of them by another country.
That was going to be my question. Obviously I'm not a lawyer but I can't see where that says they can jump the queue ahead of those who ordered months before them.
This is more how it looks to me. They can’t get their own rollout in order and are after a scapegoat
The whole thing has been the EU looking for a scapegoat to be honest. The bullying tactics which includes the raiding the AstraZeneca sites was shameful really, you could see the writing was on the wall when Pascal Soriot explained the whole concept of best efforts.
Glad we are absolutely nothing to do with it.
We may yet be if they try to block Pfizer exports to here.
Same with offices. Way more people in than last time. There's an article on the BBC site about this today.10000 Coventry kids are in school at the moment. Last lockdown the average was 800 per day. It 12x higher this lockdown.
Wow
The data showed there were more than 500 outbreaks, or suspected outbreaks, in offices in the second half of 2020 - more than in supermarkets, construction sites, warehouses, restaurants and cafes combined.
10000 Coventry kids are in school at the moment. Last lockdown the average was 800 per day. It 12x higher this lockdown.
Wow
Imagine if hundreds of thousands of kids wanted to?
Covid-hit pupils 'should be allowed to repeat a year'
Education think-tank says pupils should have the right to repeat the school year after Covid disruption.www.bbc.co.uk
Amazing how eager some are to offload their children during a time like this
The EU are a shambles,It’ll all come down like a pack of cards.
Just said on radio 2 Jeremy vine show a journalist from German news outlet Bild saying German,French and Dutch foreign ministers agreed to sorting enough vaccines out but van der leyen said no Brussels will sort it.
All three furious at Brussels dragging their feet so slow.
I'm sure many of those would prefer to be sat home with their kids doing a few zoom meetings, but have no choice but to go out to work......
....that said, I am aware of a few parents at my own kids school who are taking the piss with regards definitions of key worker status etc.
...lockdown-lite innit.....and so we now celebrate 25k+ new daily infections like its a cracking result....
Meanwhile up here the north-west ambulance service has put in a formal request for the Army to help.....
Got to agree with SBD, Fernando, Dave and BSB on this and was going to raise the same point. The EU may well have right to the supplies manufactured in the UK, but if we ordered first and by three months (and approved the vaccine a month ago), how can the EU justify receiving UK manufactured stock ahead of us ? The EU appear to forget we have plenty of administering capacity but are also being held back by supply
If anything, as we pre ordered and approved way ahead of the EU we should be pushing for the EU manufactured supplies of the AZ vaccine to come to the UK first (and Pfizer’s for that matter), if we have shortfalls/unfulfilled capacity !!!
This is classic eu federalism
Every member is straight armed into agreeing an en bloc decision and that decision will always then be there to benefit the strong nations in the cartel and the weaker ones are just told to stand at the back of the queue and be pummelled into submission
Still morons like Tony Robinson the other day were still slobbering over the EU and saying it’s not fair they are missing out as they care more about their citizens than rush through a vaccine that may have issues with it
It was then revealed he’d already had the vaccine
This is classic eu federalism
Every member is straight armed into agreeing an en bloc decision and that decision will always then be there to benefit the strong nations in the cartel and the weaker ones are just told to stand at the back of the queue and be pummelled into submission
Still morons like Tony Robinson the other day were still slobbering over the EU and saying it’s not fair they are missing out as they care more about their citizens than rush through a vaccine that may have issues with it
It was then revealed he’d already had the vaccine
While I agree on Robinson you do realise any EU state can give emergency approval for any vaccine? Like we did while under their rules?
Do we know when Novavax will enter production?
While I agree on Robinson you do realise any EU state can give emergency approval for any vaccine? Like we did while under their rules?
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