Complaining about it?Complaining about why McDonald's drive-thru and Costa are still open isn't helping people be clear about the rules, which most people seem capable of understanding. It's a distraction and you're welcome to it.
But I saw the government say you had to stay in your town? Boris wasn't in town?
To be fair, it's possible i've misinterpreted what the government are referring to when they keep saying stay at home and they keep saying people are breaking the rules. In my mind i've taken that as referring to all the people out and about on walks, and i've also linked it to some of the reports of people being fined for going for a walk 5 miles away from their house. Then you have boris going on a bike ride 7 miles away from his place. I know that has now been redacted but that kind of inconsistency surely can't help, and you can't say that's a small inconsistency either and the police were clearly confused as to what was okay and what's not.
If the reference to breaking the rules is more about people mixing indoors - then why aren't more people being pulled over? Random checks. Someone mentioned in france they have temporary road blocks at popular city boundaries or whatever. It's not practical to do it for everyone but it would certainly send a message and word gets round. I imagine most people drive to other peoples houses so that would catch and/or deter a lot of those people breaking rules.
Basically, my main gripe is that it's not enough to just go to the BBC saying "people can't just stick to the letter of the law they need to act in the spirit of the lockdown". Actually they can and most people will - either because they are selfish people who don't care (and i would say that's not the case for most), or because they trust the government are telling you what is okay to do explicitly in the rules. It's a cop out because when it goes to shit they can blame the public.
It seems very hard for people in the UK to imagine what a curfew is like. Many still think it is their right to do what they like as long as they can make out it is within the rules set.Curfew here since November certainly brought down new infections. Lifting the restriction for just the one night at Xmas saw an immediate bounce in new infections which has now fallen again with the curfew impacting and kids being off school. But the under 14s have gone back to school this week which could see numbers rise again
Sadly the mortality numbers still high here. UK equivalent of over 800 a day since beginning of November (peaking over 1500) compared to under a 100 at its worst in the first wave.
But it is restricting where I intended to go for walks!
Anyway, on today's round the housing estate, lots of people coming back after dropping children off at school. I get that a key worker won't necessarily start just after their child goes to school, but... I do know of a couple of people who are not key workers, but their partners are. Given Iknow their work has been highly flexible about the amount of work they do from home, and accepting about childcare taking precedence over work, it seems slightly odd to me that *their* children go in to school, and potentially spread the virus about a bit!
Complaining about it?
Try again. Asking the question on why we are told that we must stay at home unless we have no choice but to go out. But places are open for us to visit where it isn't essential to visit. Travelling to have a McDonald's or KFC isn't essential. It is want not need.
Yet you make out you can't see the contradiction in the rules people take advantage of.
"If we keep on looking for someone else's problem as to why this is not going to get better, then we are missing the point. We all have to say what is it in our own lives to do to minimise the impact on the NHS."
Why wouldn't you want to go to KFC?I'll let Chris Whitty say it, because he put it better than me:
He was justifying why football is still being played, as it happens. The point remains - if you don't want to go to KFC, then don't. But don't make out like that small issue is the big reason why the current system is a shambles. Chris Whitty doesn't seem to think coffee shops are the problem, for example. If you do, you're choosing to distract yourself.
Why wouldn't you want to go to KFC?
Hot wings 4 life #chippywankerwhy would you want to go KFC. absoulte awful chicken rather go and and get me a half roast from the chippy
Social pressure here combined with it being far more normal to have an elderly relative living in the family home. Plus police here rarely do warnings - on the spot fines or it's the courts for more flagrant violations. Plus people far more aware/considerate of the pressure it puts on a limited health service.It seems very hard for people in the UK to imagine what a curfew is like. Many still think it is their right to do what they like as long as they can make out it is within the rules set.
Hot wings 4 life #chippywanker
Bringing it back on track, mcdonald's and KFC etc were closed last March during the lockdown weren't they? Eradicating the choice for people to go out and collect from there.
Were McDonald's ordered to close, or did they choose to?Bringing it back on track, mcdonald's and KFC etc were closed last March during the lockdown weren't they? Eradicating the choice for people to go out and collect from there.
Italy - there’s one from 22:00 - 5am.Where is 'here'? Has it been effective?
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They probably chose to. Can't remember for certain.Were McDonald's ordered to close, or did they choose to?
They probably chose to. Can't remember for certain.
Are you saying that their infection rate has ever been as high as ours is now?
Were McDonald's ordered to close, or did they choose to?
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Looks like the United States has got this under control
So you know the rate is in Italy is yet not the rate in the UK....but still look to create an argument on the matter.I’m saying your statement regarding Italy was inaccurate - I don’t know what our infection rate is
So you know the rate is in Italy is yet not the rate in the UK....but still look to create an argument on the matter.
How about getting back to what I actually said and not making things up.I'll let Chris Whitty say it, because he put it better than me:
He was justifying why football is still being played, as it happens. The point remains - if you don't want to go to KFC, then don't. But don't make out like that small issue is the big reason why the current system is a shambles. Chris Whitty doesn't seem to think coffee shops are the problem, for example. If you do, you're choosing to distract yourself.
Bad as each other? You couldn't insult me more if you tried.The pair of you are as bad as each other. Get a room ffs ha ha
Bad as each other? You couldn't insult me more if you tried.
The problem is people haven't grasped that we're not pursuing a so called zero-covid strategy so the argument why can't I do x when you can do y doesn't work. They aren't being compared in that way, its keeping the overall level below what is deemed too much for the NHS, simple as that.But isn't it a contradiction to say we can only leave our house for something essential but we can go out and get a takeaway?
Who said the rules are meaningless? The problem isn't the majority who stick to them. It is the minority who look for a way to break them.
So you know the rate is in Italy is yet not the rate in the UK....but still look to create an argument on the matter.
Not much, but some good news for once.
The 7 day average of the number of cases by report date has fallen for the first time since the end of November.
Seems as a few on here thought, with it being almost 3 weeks since xmas, the cases themselves starting to fall.
Lets hope this carries on. Long way to go until that effects deaths, but hopefully hospitalisations at least start slowing soon
Would love to hear regular vaccination statistics to keep the light at the end of the tunnel in sight.
I only learned this today, but they actually do update these numbers daily! Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard
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