will have to get a lot worse for people to change or,crazy thought, some black and white rules
Aggressive? Show me where.I mean it's all relative isn't it and he is clearly talking about lax compared what what it was previously in this country. You are then changing the benchmark to be other countries - and your post is a bit aggressive
So when items are sold from the shelves they shouldn't get restocked during the day so you don't have to wait to go along an aisle?Much better to do it when it’s out of hours and not peak time, hardly any point having social distance instructions when the staff ignore it is there
The same reason we have had it bad all the way through.How come we’re the only country with a massive problem from this new variant????
sorry if this has been touched upon but one thing whats pissed me off :
COVID-19: People arriving in England need negative tests to enter country from Friday
The government says the regulation has been imposed in the face of "worrying new strains" of COVID.news.sky.com
why the fuck havent we been doing this from the start and why wait till fucking Friday for ffs
I'm still nervous with them breaking with the trials and time between jabs - although that does actually seem to be driven by their medical advisors.We 'be did everything too late with the exception of pre ordering a shit load of vaccines.
It's the one thing they've got right and the roll out seems to be going okay though it could be improved upon.
Guidance seems to now be the village, town, or area of the city that you live in.Oh pipe the fuck down you jizz trumpet, the went for a walk that doesn't break the law and you act like c**t.
I'm still nervous with them breaking with the trials and time between jabs - although that does actually seem to be driven by their medical advisors.
When Cummings took the piss completely and got away with it I think that gave a green light for others to do comparatively less and hope to get away with it as well.
Mrs Wisdom finally gets guidance, and it's stay at home, unless things that are on a specific list of tasks have to be done.still feels the biggest issue at the moment isn’t people going for a walk in the park or exercising outdoors (unless the parks crowded !) but people going to work....some because they need to but many because employers or staff want to be ‘in the office’
Mrs Wisdom finally gets guidance, and it's stay at home, unless things that are on a specific list of tasks have to be done.
It begs the question why it hasn't always been that!
I agree that didn’t help (and he should’ve resigned) but I doubt it has a huge impact on people’s behaviours now. The messaging is very clear again ie ‘stay at home people are dying’ (it wasn’t as clear over Xmas) and yet roads etc are still busy
It feels like the country has massive lockdown fatigue and it’s why you can only rely on it as a solution when you need it most (probably only for short bursts). Not knocking witty and vallance who’ve done a good job in difficult circumstances, but stuff like the Nov press conference didn’t help, saying shout 4k deaths per day etc etc. It didn’t happen then by a long shot, so people then question future messaging. That message feels like it could genuinely happen with this new variant spreading far easier if people dont start following the rules, but the threat has lost its power of persuasion.
Also, it’s all well and good making lockdown measures stricter but then when someone breaks the stricter rules, they might become more lax at the stuff they were following (‘I’ve already broken the rules so....’)
I’d imagine the biggest issue at the moment isn’t people going for a walk in the park or exercising outdoors (unless the parks crowded !) but people going to work....some because they need to but many because employers or staff want to be ‘in the office’
I struggle to point the finger though (apart from the anti vax/no mask wearers) as it’s middle of winter, people have plenty of challenges; health, mental health, financial etc. We’ve just got to all do our best and ask the same of others
My work is a great example.
First lockdown we all got sent home immediately. Everyone worked from home no questions. This time it’s “well the guidelines say you have to be in if you can’t work from home and really you can’t work as well from home as you could in the office plus we’ve separated the desks so it’s OK yeah? But let us know if you’ve got concerns”
Ive argued with HR that National Lockdown is more serious than Tier 3/4 to no avail. They insist government guidance hasn’t changed.
I honestly think they believe this and it’s down to messaging. No clear advice on what “essential work” really is so every business thinks it’s them.
My work is a great example.
First lockdown we all got sent home immediately. Everyone worked from home no questions. This time it’s “well the guidelines say you have to be in if you can’t work from home and really you can’t work as well from home as you could in the office plus we’ve separated the desks so it’s OK yeah? But let us know if you’ve got concerns”
Ive argued with HR that National Lockdown is more serious than Tier 3/4 to no avail. They insist government guidance hasn’t changed.
I honestly think they believe this and it’s down to messaging. No clear advice on what “essential work” really is so every business thinks it’s them.
Never ever seen so many people with asthma. I think there has been an eleventy billion percent increase in sufferers since March.“I’m medically exempt m8”
I agree that didn’t help (and he should’ve resigned) but I doubt it has a huge impact on people’s behaviours now. The messaging is very clear again ie ‘stay at home people are dying’ (it wasn’t as clear over Xmas) and yet roads etc are still busy
It feels like the country has massive lockdown fatigue and it’s why you can only rely on it as a solution when you need it most (probably only for short bursts). Not knocking witty and vallance who’ve done a good job in difficult circumstances, but stuff like the Nov press conference didn’t help, saying shout 4k deaths per day etc etc. It didn’t happen then by a long shot, so people then question future messaging. That message feels like it could genuinely happen with this new variant spreading far easier if people dont start following the rules, but the threat has lost its power of persuasion.
Also, it’s all well and good making lockdown measures stricter but then when someone breaks the stricter rules, they might become more lax at the stuff they were following (‘I’ve already broken the rules so....’)
I’d imagine the biggest issue at the moment isn’t people going for a walk in the park or exercising outdoors (unless the parks crowded !) but people going to work....some because they need to but many because employers or staff want to be ‘in the office’
I struggle to point the finger though (apart from the anti vax/no mask wearers) as it’s middle of winter, people have plenty of challenges; health, mental health, financial etc. We’ve just got to all do our best and ask the same of others
I still think the health and safety at work Act is clear on this. Different to implement of courseMy work is a great example.
First lockdown we all got sent home immediately. Everyone worked from home no questions. This time it’s “well the guidelines say you have to be in if you can’t work from home and really you can’t work as well from home as you could in the office plus we’ve separated the desks so it’s OK yeah? But let us know if you’ve got concerns”
Ive argued with HR that National Lockdown is more serious than Tier 3/4 to no avail. They insist government guidance hasn’t changed.
I honestly think they believe this and it’s down to messaging. No clear advice on what “essential work” really is so every business thinks it’s them.
Never ever seen so many people with asthma. I think there has been an eleventy billion percent increase in sufferers since March.
Heard so may people walk into store, be confronted by a security guard and answer with "We've both got asthma".
guidance not is law though which is why their fines were droppedGuidance seems to now be the village, town, or area of the city that you live in.
Hey ho...
As someone with asthma masks produce absolutely no issue for me at all. If it was mandatory to walk around covered in pet hair though I'd need a special badge
Yeah. Horses are the worst for Mrs BSB but thankfully none of them for sale in Sainsbury’s
It's utterly ridiculous. Even on the list, I can't see anything that can't wait a bit anyway, so I've instructed her to be assertive if asked. But whyon earth it's been compulsory for her to go in to sit at a computer screen, God only knows!that’s great news ! (Must be a weight off your mind !). I’ve said before I know of three office based companies that are still having people in on rota, albeit reduced numbers, however, all could WFH. Crazy in the current circumstances when transmission rate is so high
But it is restricting where I intended to go for walks!guidance not is law though which is why their fines were dropped
The same reason we have had it bad all the way through.
Have you tried Tesco’s burger aisle?
Never ever seen so many people with asthma. I think there has been an eleventy billion percent increase in sufferers since March.
Heard so may people walk into store, be confronted by a security guard and answer with "We've both got asthma".
A couple of studies I found interesting:
One BMJ study says the public have generally been pretty observant of lockdown measures, and deserves more credit for it. There’s one key exception though - people not self-isolating when they (or a close contact) test positive. And that’s often because they don’t have enough help to do so.
Pandemic fatigue? How adherence to covid-19 regulations has been misrepresented and why it matters - The BMJ
As England and Scotland start another period of lockdown, we all have to come to terms with following stricter covid-19 restrictions, most likely for a relatively long period of time. [...]More...blogs.bmj.com
And a recent study from Imperial, which shows the Secondary Attack Rate (i.e the likelihood of someone passing along a COVID infection) in different settings. In a household, it’s 21.1%, and especially bad when the exposure is for several days. By contrast, it’s 5.9% for social gatherings with friends and families, and 1.2% for “casual close contacts” (the example they give here is supermarkets).
COVID-19 spread in different social settings - new Imperial report | Imperial News | Imperial College London
In a global analysis of where SARS-CoV-2 transmission takes place, households show the highest transmission rates.www.imperial.ac.uk
France came up earlier, I'd like to see how they measure their compliance as, the people I know with connections there, say that the public flagrantly disregard and ignore the rules anyway, no matter how draconian they are... and that's why they've gone super-authoritarian. Now it could be different in different regions, and could be isolated cases / perception, of course.Yeah, for a free society I do think we’ve done pretty well overall.
France came up earlier, I'd like to see how they measure their compliance as, the people I know with connections there, say that the public flagrantly disregard and ignore the rules anyway, no matter how draconian they are... and that's why they've gone super-authoritarian. Now it could be different in different regions, and could be isolaed cases / perception, of course.
Yup. For better or worse, Britain is usually quite compliant with authority. Of course the past few years have had increased emphasis on individual, rather than societal, rights, and that probably doesn't help at a time like now.They’re having big problems with vaccine scepticism also
Like Brexit this is all down to pacifying the various wings of the Tory party.
It also helps when blaming the public as we saw yesterday. Half of whom are gullible forelock tugging fuck with a who deserve it any way.
Looks like there's another plundering of the public purse underway today. Government are issuing hard up families with £30 worth of food. Only there's only about 5 quid worth in the package. Where's the other £25 per package going?
I bet they roll out some stunt involving Farage in the next day or two as a distraction.
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