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Johnnythespider

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,691
What does 68000 cases do in terms of hospital admissions
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,692
Johnnythespider said:
What does 68000 cases do in terms of hospital admissions
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In London (from BBC):

The latest numbers show that:

  • 7,034 people are in hospital with Covid-19 in London – twice as many as two weeks ago and about a third higher than the previous peak in April
  • 908 patients are on ventilators – more than twice as many as two weeks ago
  • Last week, about one-in-six ambulances had to wait more than half an hour to unload patients into emergency departments.
This has created a situation where 44% of all patients in London’s hospital wards have the virus, increasing to 65% in the case of north London’s Whittington trust, BBC analysis shows.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,693
chiefdave said:
Looks like the numbers are still a bit all over the place since Christmas. We were hovering around 60K a day then a sudden drop to 52K now a sudden jump to 68K. Cases by specimen date will be clearer but that takes 3 or 4 days to catch up.
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Bit of a clutching at straws but noted we’d done 620k tests (yesterday 550k)...before that under 500k per day so increase partially to do with extra tests maybe. The ONS is probably the best guide with them thinking 1m have got it ! People really have got to keep away from others as best they can for a bit
 

shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,694
Skybluefaz said:
They are still fucking it aren't they? One could go to a place of worship and a garden centre. No need. Also schools are confusing, we got a key worker place even though I'm at home working. I sent the kids in one day then school emailed and said if one parent is home so should children be. I felt from a safety perspective for the teachers and others it was probably the right thing to do to keep them off so I have done. Since then the wife has had communications to say children with only one key worker parent should infact be in school. Very confusing.
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Schools have had to have a rethink.
Numbers of kids in have been high due to the key worker/critical worker criteria widening.
Point of closing schools was to reduce spread, still having loads of kids in doesn't do much.
Trying to reduce numbers on site includes staff - more kids in means more staff or you are having classrooms of 30 again....
Letters like that from schools are trying to reduce risk, the whole reason for "closing" Schools....
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,695
Kieranp96 said:
I got my test result 6 hours after taking it, then got my vaccine the following day, results come Back pretty fast now, but also I'm not a NHS employee so. Maybe thats why I got a fast test.
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What type of test was it?
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,696
Can anyone Square the circle around the r rate .
Which was estimated at 2.5 3 last April?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,697
FFS

Primary schools in England still 'rammed' with pupils, say heads

Warnings that schools may have to stay closed for longer, as more parents claim key worker status
www.theguardian.com
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,698
wingy said:
Can anyone Square the circle around the r rate .
Which was estimated at 2.5 3 last April?
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Residual infection rate is so high though that the rate of growth can be lower yet still show far more daily cases?
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,699
David O'Day said:
FFS

Primary schools in England still 'rammed' with pupils, say heads

Warnings that schools may have to stay closed for longer, as more parents claim key worker status
www.theguardian.com
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My employer has given me a key worker letter. As we provide back office services to the NHS they class the entire org as key workers.

It is pretty crass really as many of us do not do anything a reasonable person would call essential, and us all working might actually be working against the needs of our NHS customers.
 
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derbyskyblue

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,700
Evo1883 said:
My best mate has just called an ambulance as he's taken a turn for the worse with covid... This is the 8th day for him so far... He was ok felt a bit groggy but his breathing has gone to pot today
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Shit !! Hope he's on the mend soon evo.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,701
Kieranp96 said:
I got my test result 6 hours after taking it, then got my vaccine the following day, results come Back pretty fast now, but also I'm not a NHS employee so. Maybe thats why I got a fast test.
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,702
Liquid Gold said:
How much for a vaccine?
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2x for £4 or 3x for a Pfizer.

Sent from my I3113 using Tapatalk
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,703
skyblue1991 said:
2x for £4 or 3x for a Pfizer.

Sent from my I3113 using Tapatalk
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cowboy1850

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,704
Even at this point people still have their head in the sand. People walking around my workplace with no facemasks, people saying their being safe when they visit their other family members, it's like they think rules don't apply to them and it's others that are causing the problem.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,705
68k new cases, is that record?
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,706
David O'Day said:
68k new cases, is that record?
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Thought there was a reference to 75 k recently.
Might have been around a miscount or adjustment though .
Ricoh has been busy today apparently.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,707
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which priority group are you?
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Work for NHS, so top, but 0 health issues.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,708
fernandopartridge said:
What type of test was it?
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Idk , I was told I needed to get tested before i had my vaccine, shoved it down my throat and up my nose, got my results then got my vaccine.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,709
Kieranp96 said:
Work for NHS, so top, but 0 health issues.
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You just said you didn't work for it?
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,710
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You just said you didn't work for it?
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Typo, my bad will go back and correct it.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,711
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You just said you didn't work for it?
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No idea what I was trying to put but corrected it , I got a little card that tells me the batch number for the vaccine aswell as what vaccine I got.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,712
wingy said:
Thought there was a reference to 75 k recently.
Might have been around a miscount or adjustment though .
Ricoh has been busy today apparently.
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81k by specimen date on 29th December
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #39,713
Kieranp96 said:
Idk
, I was told I needed to get tested before i had my vaccine, shoved it down my throat and up my nose, got my results then got my vaccine.
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That's a PCR test, maybe they can analyse them in the UHCW path lab
 

Astute

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #39,714
shmmeee said:
All H&S is vague as fuck innit? They’d have to prove they’ve taken all reasonable precautions I’d guess. I’ll be honest without a union legal team behind me I wouldn’t try it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not right.
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It isn't vague. It is very simple.

So to put it into simple terms....it is cost against amount of protection given. Anything dangerous in any way isn't allowed. Everything must be risk assessed. You wouldn't be expected to pay 100k to stop someone scratching their finger but if there is a slight risk of losing a finger it is a different matter. Then it comes down to availability of funds/finding a solution. A solution is using an SWP..safe working practice.
 
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Astute

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #39,715
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don't know what it is about bog roll that makes it such a prime candidate for panic buying.
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There is no need for it at all. It puts pressure on us that we could do without. Anyone who is or lives with anyone who is classed as at risk have been told to stay at home and not come to work. The same for anyone who has any sort of symptoms. They have to stay away for 14 days. But we still have the capacity to produce enough for everyone and also have a safety stock.

The only danger to supply of bog rolls is being able to load the lorries quick enough. That is for us to send them out as well as those selling them to be able to get them to their shops.
 

Astute

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #39,716
Nick said:
Surely it was known vials would be needed regardless?

Why wasn't production of them ramped up?
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Production must have been 'ramped up' to make millions of bottles that wouldn't normally have been made.

Machines can only run up to a certain speed. A new bit of kit can't be ordered, manufactured, built, people trained and then up and running in a month or two. Our new machinery has a lead time of a couple of years minimum. Then we also have to consider the difficulties caused by the virus.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #39,717
Mrs TGP is in for the vaccine on Monday which is good as her and many of her nursing colleagues have been waiting whilst seeing people sneaking in to get them.
 
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Macca

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #39,718
Wife had hers Thursday, slightly painful on injection site as per any other vaccination but otherwise ok. By the way nothing resembling a lockdown out there. I think people have taken the “meet one other person” as an order not a concession
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #39,719
A lot of people are just out and going about there business if they are going to lockdown they should do it properly. On my walk I walk through a trading estate that has a personal training unit on it and for the last three days I have Either seen people hanging around by the back door or leaving the area looking sweaty.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #39,720
Astute said:
It isn't vague. It is very simple.

So to put it into simple terms....it is cost against amount of protection given. Anything dangerous in any way isn't allowed. Everything must be risk assessed. You wouldn't be expected to pay 100k to stop someone scratching their finger but if there is a slight risk of losing a finger it is a different matter. Then it comes down to availability of funds/finding a solution. A solution is using an SWP..safe working practice.
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That sounds pretty vague.
 

Astute

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  • Jan 10, 2021
  • #39,721
shmmeee said:
That sounds pretty vague.
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So you don't understand what dangerous means?

If every time you crossed the road there was a good chance of getting hit by a car something drastic would have to change. That is dangerous. But you don't frequently get hit by a car but there is still a chance of it happening. So the choices are make drastic changes, use different methods like pedestrian crossings or accept the risk.

And this is where the cost comes into it. You wouldn't put pedestrian crossings on every road. You put them where they are needed the most. But it doesn't eliminate all risk.
 
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speedie87

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  • Jan 10, 2021
  • #39,722
Was thinking a while back I wonder when the uk will have its first day of no recorded cases, not going to be 2021 is it....
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 10, 2021
  • #39,723
speedie87 said:
Was thinking a while back I wonder when the uk will have its first day of no recorded cases, not going to be 2021 is it....
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To get down to 1k a day would be an achievement
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jan 10, 2021
  • #39,724
Terry Gibson's perm said:
A lot of people are just out and going about there business if they are going to lockdown they should do it properly. On my walk I walk through a trading estate that has a personal training unit on it and for the last three days I have Either seen people hanging around by the back door or leaving the area looking sweaty.
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Unless it's properly enforced, what's the point? When the 'stay at home' lockdown was done here earlier this year if you went outside without reason you'd be fined.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jan 10, 2021
  • #39,725
speedie87 said:
Was thinking a while back I wonder when the uk will have its first day of no recorded cases, not going to be 2021 is it....
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Probably 2023.
 
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