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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,571
Sky Blue Pete said:
Just received form from school what an absolutely nightmare!!

On the consent form for the kids it asks the parents for volunteers and what the shifts are and what’s required

The shifts are 8.30-12.30 and 12.15 to 3.15

Tues 5th to Friday 15th

Then possibly they will pay people

They need quality lead / team leader
Registration
Results recorder
Test assistant
Processor and
Cleaner

I’m working full time in what’s deemed a key role in hmrc but I’m gonna do a couple of shifts as we all need to pull together. I hope other parents feel the same
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Isnt that relying on people not working?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,572
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not great but a consequence of an impractical vaccine for mass rollout
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Well it’s inevitable it’s going to be impossible to administer in the middle of a crises. We have to hold the Oxford vaccine works and it’s that which holds the key
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,573
Nick said:
Isnt that relying on people not working?
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Like most things in schools it relies on goodwill
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,574
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Like most things in schools it relies on goodwill
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And fucking work off.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,575
Grendel said:
Well it’s inevitable it’s going to be impossible to administer in the middle of a crises. We have to hold the Oxford vaccine works and it’s that which holds the key
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Removing nationalistic bollocks it probably is the best of the ones available. The question now is one of production capacity and time
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,576
Nick said:
And fucking work off.
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Blame the idiots in government then
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,577
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Blame the idiots in government then
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What’s the alternative other then get volunteers - closing primary schools is unrealistic
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,578
Ian1779 said:
Kier is too busy chasing the Daily Mail readers, who would actually prefer teachers and kids to catch Cov-ID so it’s fair.
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Damn the leader of the opposition trying (and so far succeeding) to get his party elected to government.

(I don’t agree with him on schools, but in terms of the job he’s appointed to do you really can’t complain)
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,579
Nick said:
And fucking work off.
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Yeah but under the circumstances it's clearly worth it. Saying that I'm holding my holiday back for the Euros.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,580
Grendel said:
What’s the alternative other then get volunteers - closing primary schools is unrealistic
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It isn’t a system though is it? Leaving schools to function as medical centres and hoping they can work it out themselves. Secondary schools shouldn’t be open. As said many times the halfway house is unworkable and I still have no idea what I’m supposed to be doing next week
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,581
shmmeee said:
Damn the leader of the opposition trying (and so far succeeding) to get his party elected to government.

(I don’t agree with him on schools, but in terms of the job he’s appointed to do you really can’t complain)
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He’s let schools and education down massively. The one area where he would get universal support pretty much and he’s hung us out to dry.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,582
dutchman said:
"CLAIM" to do that!
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No. Do that.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32661-1/fulltext
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,583
shmmeee said:
Damn the leader of the opposition trying (and so far succeeding) to get his party elected to government.

(I don’t agree with him on schools, but in terms of the job he’s appointed to do you really can’t complain)
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He’s doing a good job of losing my vote but then if he persuades people like G will have succeeded in his aims
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,584
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The rollout of this needs to be completely removed from the politicians. Leave it to those who know what they are doing and leave the self serving incompetents out of it.
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The further it is removed from Government clutches the more chance it has of succeeding.
Trouble is they tend to distance themselves from things they should be central to ‘whilst not being able to leave alone things they should leave to the experts.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,585
Brylowes said:
The further it is removed from Government clutches the more chance it has of succeeding.
Trouble is they tend to distance themselves from things they should be central to ‘whilst not being able to leave alone things they should leave to the experts.
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They want to exploit the vaccine for political capital. If they had any brains they would see that actually backing off would give them a better chance to do so. The most they should do is relay updates to the public each week on the rollout
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,586
skybluetony176 said:
Jeez. Just when you thought we’d seen the end of the would you rather live in (insert EU country here) line the direction of travel turns back to it. A sure sign that the government is fucking this up.
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As long as everyone else is as shit as us
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,587
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They want to exploit the vaccine for political capital. If they had any brains they would see that actually backing off would give them a better chance to do so. The most they should do is relay updates to the public each week on the rollout
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The one thing they actually got right was pre ordering shit loads of vaccine, now back off and leave it to the experts
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,588
Who would of thought a vaccination scheme run by Nadhim Zahawi would go so wrong.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,589
Nick said:
Isnt that relying on people not working?
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For two weeks. I’ll take a couple of shift times off work or use the volunteer time we get given
 
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Brylowes

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,590
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They want to exploit the vaccine for political capital. If they had any brains they would see that actually backing off would give them a better chance to do so. The most they should do is relay updates to the public each week on the rollout
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Absolutely, leave well alone and in 6 months time if it’s deemed an overall success, the media will give them the credit anyway.
They’re complete inability to learn from their own mistakes is baffling.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,591
Brylowes said:
Absolutely, leave well alone and in 6 months time if it’s deemed an overall success, the media will give them the credit anyway.
They’re complete inability to learn from their own mistakes is baffling.
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I think even under David Cameron we’d have seen this done better.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,592
BodicoteSkyBlue said:
Are all these volunteers also DBS checked?
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They’d need to be. But it’s a significant undertaking to organise 2000 kids and teachers over 2 weeks. It’s a huge ask that needs significant oversight and logistic skills to run the team. Made harder by it being volunteers initially

Friend whose a head teacher has saved 100k painstakingly over a few years for new buildings and fixtures and he will now have to spend it on this. He’s so sad for the school community
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,593
Nick said:
And fucking work off.
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Yep but if people can’t they can’t
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,594
Sky Blue Pete said:
They’d need to be. But it’s a significant undertaking to organise 2000 kids and teachers over 2 weeks. It’s a huge ask that needs significant oversight and logistic skills to run the team. Made harder by it being volunteers initially

Friend whose a head teacher has saved 100k painstakingly over a few years for new buildings and fixtures and he will now have to spend it on this. He’s so sad for the school community
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And then it’s like a small business until the vaccine is available. It’s a big ask

Then I suppose they will complete the vaccinations too
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,595
Sky Blue Pete said:
They’d need to be. But it’s a significant undertaking to organise 2000 kids and teachers over 2 weeks. It’s a huge ask that needs significant oversight and logistic skills to run the team. Made harder by it being volunteers initially

Friend whose a head teacher has saved 100k painstakingly over a few years for new buildings and fixtures and he will now have to spend it on this. He’s so sad for the school community
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They don’t test everyone who enters a supermarket, what makes a school any different or more capable?
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,596
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think even under David Cameron we’d have seen this done better.
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I think even under David Cameron under anaesthetic, we’d have seen this done better.
And I’m no fan of Cameron.
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,597
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They don’t test everyone who enters a supermarket, what makes a school any different or more capable?
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Change it to Tesco then job done.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,598
I seem to remember getting a BCG vaccination at school as it goes.

Everyone punching the fuck out of peoples arms the next few days after.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,599
hill83 said:
Change it to Tesco then job done.
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Haven’t been in one since I was a student
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,600
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Haven’t been in one since I was a student
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And there's one reason why it's a better idea doing it in school than supermarkets.

All by yourself.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,601
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He’s doing a good job of losing my vote but then if he persuades people like G will have succeeded in his aims
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There are more Gs than BSBs in the British electorate. You win from the centre in any political environment and that gives you capital for policy. Policy before governance is only useful for virtue signalling and right now Labour need to signal towards the right, because their vote on the left is tapped out and geographically clustered.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,602
shmmeee said:
There are more Gs than BSBs in the British electorate. You win from the centre in any political environment and that gives you capital for policy. Policy before governance is only useful for virtue signalling and right now Labour need to signal towards the right, because their vote on the left is tapped out and geographically clustered.
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I know the demographics well enough. Just education being used as collateral damage pisses me off and makes me not want to vote for anyone. With Gen Z looking more conservative millennials are getting fucked from both directions
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,603
Just had plans through for next few weeks. Exam groups doing mocks as planned, week commencing 11th I am required to be in school so I can teach everyone remotely-makes sense. School has not received tests yet and has not been told how many they’re getting.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,604
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Just had plans through for next few weeks. Exam groups doing mocks as planned, week commencing 11th I am required to be in school so I can teach everyone remotely-makes sense. School has not received tests yet and has not been told how many they’re getting.
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All joking aside, it's a total rushed shambles.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38,605
hill83 said:
All joking aside, it's a total rushed shambles.
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If all my teaching is to be remote why get me into school? Pointless
 
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