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hill83

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  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,361
Nick said:
With the Vaccine, why arent they hammering it out? Theres a test centre sat empty most of the time at the Ricoh.

Just drive in, get injected and go.
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Because it was approved today and the one already out you can’t do that.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,362
Nick said:
With the Vaccine, why arent they hammering it out? Theres a test centre sat empty most of the time at the Ricoh.

Just drive in, get injected and go.
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I think they will be. Didn't the Oxford one only get approved this morning? Hopefully within a couple of weeks people are taking more pricks than Katie Price.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,363
Nick said:
With the Vaccine, why arent they hammering it out? Theres a test centre sat empty most of the time at the Ricoh.

Just drive in, get injected and go.
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Can someone let me know once all the 90-something care home residents are done driving up to the Ricoh? I was worried coronavirus might damage my life expectancy, this would be something else.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,364
hill83 said:
Because it was approved today and the one already out you can’t do that.
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Yeah I mean as of today after approval.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,365
SBT said:
Can someone let me know once all the 90-something care home residents are done driving up to the Ricoh? I was worried coronavirus might damage my life expectancy, this would be something else.
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Most care homes will have a nurse of some sort. They could have everybody injected with it quickly.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,366
Nick said:
Yeah I mean as of today after approval.
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Teleport the vaccine to a car park?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,367
Nick said:
Most care homes will have a nurse of some sort. They could have everybody injected with it quickly.
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Because surprisingly enough it takes time to manufacture a hundred million doses
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,368
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Because surprisingly enough it takes time to manufacture a hundred million doses
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It's obviously not going to be in every single place as of today, why don't we give the manufacturers the empty nightingale hospitals as space to get it made and out quicker.

Needs to be a bit more urgency, surely?
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,369
Is this one of those ones where you go on all day not listening? I’m out now.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,370
hill83 said:
Is this one of those ones where you go on all day not listening? I’m out now.
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Just asking why things can't be sped up logistically.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,371
hill83 said:
Is this one of those ones where you go on all day not listening? I’m out now.
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Someone seems angry the gyms might be shut again soon. He won’t start feeling better until someone tells him everything else will be shut in solidarity and London has gone up to Tier 15.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,372
SBT said:
Someone seems angry the gyms might be shut again soon. He won’t start feeling better until someone tells him everything else will be shut in solidarity and London has gone up to Tier 15.
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Nah, 25 and nothing less.

There will be a lot of people who suffer from gyms and things like that being shut.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,373
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,374
SBT said:
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You do realise you don't have to take steroids to go to a gym?
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,375
Nick said:
You do realise you don't have to take steroids to go to a gym?
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I honestly have no idea, but you need to take a couple of hours off and stop jumping around looking for an argument on here. No-one seems to care quite as much as you right now.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,376
SBT said:
I honestly have no idea, but you need to take a couple of hours off and stop jumping around looking for an argument on here. No-one seems to care quite as much as you right now.
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I thought that was the only reason you logged in?

I care if we go into Tier 4 and get even more locked down, yes.

You have no idea that you can go to a gym without taking steroids?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,377
Nick said:
It's obviously not going to be in every single place as of today, why don't we give the manufacturers the empty nightingale hospitals as space to get it made and out quicker.

Needs to be a bit more urgency, surely?
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There are all sorts of logistical challenges as well as the prioritisation of who receives it first
 
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covcity4life

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  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,378
Get pull up bar for house. My best lockdown investment
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,379
Nick said:
Yeah I mean as of today after approval.
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it won't be done at test centres. It will be overseen by GPs.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,380
Grendel said:
There are all sorts of logistical challenges as well as the prioritisation of who receives it first
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That's all I was asking.

It just seems that rather than being proactive there's pricks in charge sat about talking about it rather than doing it.

The looks like it has been mostly health workers (obviously) and those over 80 / care homes but people have been having to go into hospital to have it? Is the issue mainly transporting at the very cold temps?
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,381
clint van damme said:
it won't be done at test centres. It will be overseen by GPs.
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My tom tom not capable of that!
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,382
Nick said:
It's obviously not going to be in every single place as of today, why don't we give the manufacturers the empty nightingale hospitals as space to get it made and out quicker.

Needs to be a bit more urgency, surely?
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are you being serious? If so get out for a walk and clear your head!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,383
clint van damme said:
it won't be done at test centres. It will be overseen by GPs.
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Fucking good luck with that then.

They will be too busy talking to Doris about her sore arm all day rather than doing anything worthwhile.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,384
Nick said:
Fucking good luck with that then.

They will be too busy talking to Doris about her sore arm all day rather than doing anything worthwhile.
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I didn't have you down as a Daily Mail reader. Bet you're all over the comments section as well!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,385
clint van damme said:
are you being serious? If so get out for a walk and clear your head!
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Obviously not that specifically but are we going into overdrive to get it out? What are the logistical issues that make it hard?

The cold temperatures, etc? BSB may know best.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,386
clint van damme said:
I didn't have you down as a Daily Mail reader. Bet you're all over the comments section as well!
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Not a Daily Mail reader, I've seen it first hand multiple times. I don't need the Daily Mail to point it out.
 

hill83

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  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,387
clint van damme said:
it won't be done at test centres. It will be overseen by GPs.
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Hopefully that will change eventually. Purely that it can and will be done in pharmacies eventually will speed things up.

Most importantly it needs to be done correctly. Not speed at the cost of safety.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,388
hill83 said:
Hopefully that will change eventually. Purely that it can and will be done in pharmacies eventually will speed things up.

Most importantly it needs to be done correctly. Not speed at the cost of safety.
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Hopefully the staff who do blood tests in Pharmacies and other things like that can be trained / qualified.

Then is the other issue getting storage out to each chemist to be able to store the vaccine safely etc.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,389
Nick said:
Hopefully the staff who do blood tests in Pharmacies and other things like that can be trained / qualified.

Then is the other issue getting storage out to each chemist to be able to store the vaccine safely etc.
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There you go, a logistical issue. All by yourself.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,390
Nick said:
Obviously not that specifically but are we going into overdrive to get it out? What are the logistical issues that make it hard?

The cold temperatures, etc? BSB may know best.
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to start to see an affect they're going to have to inject probably 15 million people twice!
It will take time, that's once it's manufactured and distributed. The good thing is once GPs and homes have the new one it can be stored in a bog standard fridge.
It's going to take a few months.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,391
Nick said:
It's obviously not going to be in every single place as of today, why don't we give the manufacturers the empty nightingale hospitals as space to get it made and out quicker.

Needs to be a bit more urgency, surely?
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Manufacturing has been increased but I suspect its more complicated than just needing more space. It will need specialist equipment working in optimal conditions and this isn't off the shelf kit.

Even if you have manufacturing capacity you're still reliant on the supply of materials. For example there was talk of a shortage of the vials needed to hold the vaccine. No point having masses of vaccine you can't package and distribute.

That being said we're supposed to be having mass vaccination centres setup, not sure why they can't be ready and waiting. Don't think its even been stated where they will be in Cov. Assume the Ricoh will be one.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,392
hill83 said:
There you go, a logistical issue. All by yourself.
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Yes so instead of the Government giving contracts to their mates and pissing billions away.

Get on the phone to people who can make fridges / devices suitable and get one ordered for every chemist in advance. It was known months ago about the temperature stuff. Get all hands on deck.

It all just seems bollocks, no preparation and everything done step by step rather than having things in place ready. Could have had storage solutions being implemented over the past couple of months.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,393
Nick said:
Yes so instead of the Government giving contracts to their mates and pissing billions away.

Get on the phone to people who can make fridges / devices suitable and get one ordered for every chemist in advance. It was known months ago about the temperature stuff. Get all hands on deck.

It all just seems bollocks, no preparation and everything done step by step rather than having things in place ready. Could have had storage solutions being implemented over the past couple of months.
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From what I’m hearing it is all in hand. Pharmacy’s will have storage capacity in place already.

From a not trusting the shambles of a government side I’m not as confident. The actual people on the ground know what they are doing though.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,394
Nick said:
Not a Daily Mail reader, I've seen it first hand multiple times. I don't need the Daily Mail to point it out.
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why do you expect everyone who works in the NHS to be nose to the grindstone while so many of us spend hours of our working lives fucking about on here. You may not read the Mail but you've been indoctrinated with their bollocks somewhere along the line.

And old Doris's arm deserves as much attention as anyone else.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 30, 2020
  • #38,395
chiefdave said:
Manufacturing has been increased but I suspect its more complicated than just needing more space. It will need specialist equipment working in optimal conditions and this isn't off the shelf kit.

Even if you have manufacturing capacity you're still reliant on the supply of materials. For example there was talk of a shortage of the vials needed to hold the vaccine. No point having masses of vaccine you can't package and distribute.

That being said we're supposed to be having mass vaccination centres setup, not sure why they can't be ready and waiting. Don't think its even been stated where they will be in Cov. Assume the Ricoh will be one.
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That's what I was getting at, if there was a shortage of vials for example then why not setup a temporary vial production centre to get that into overdrive in the meantime so everything is there ready.

Pretty sure it would be cheaper than pretend PPE.
 
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