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clint van damme

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,151
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hill83 said:
My test came back negative if anyone cares by the way.

Feel free to do the “still got aids though” joke that everyone I’ve told has done.
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the plague has eaten the aids mate, it's no laughing matter.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,152
Sick Boy said:
Another year of this would be beyond shite
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I think the next 2 to 3 months will be the toughest of all, I think things will start to improve after that though things won't be back to 'normal' for a long time.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,153
Only 42000 positives in the last 24 hours should be fine
 

Darth Robins

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,154
hill83 said:
My test came back negative if anyone cares by the way.

Feel free to do the “still got aids though” joke that everyone I’ve told has done.
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Is it the good aids or bad aids?
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,155
hill83 said:
My test came back negative if anyone cares by the way.

Feel free to do the “still got aids though” joke that everyone I’ve told has done.
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cure the herpes yet?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,156
fernandopartridge said:
It isn't going to happen anywhere near quickly enough, let's be realistic.
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I have some optimism that with the approval of more coming very soon that it will.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,157
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I have some optimism that with the approval of more coming very soon that it will.
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i'm sticking to easter
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,158
Saddlebrains said:
Just read an article from a doctor stating that we won't have normality for another year. Her reasoning being it will take 50 weeks to vaccinate 50 million people.


However, correct me if im talking shit, but surely we dont need to vaccinate anywhere near the whole population before we can attempt normality? You would have thought that as long as the elderly, vulnerable, asthmatics etc have been immunised, that will stop the deaths and hospitalisations?

And thats the whole point isnt it? We're stuck with the virus its now endemic. We just need to make sure the vulnerable are vaccinated while the rest of us either do or dont have it?
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There are 60.5m people in England registered with a GP practice. Circa 22.5% are over 60 years of age so 13.6m plus any under 60s in the priority list.

800k vaccinated as at 24th December in just over two weeks. Going to need to up the ante to get through that lot by April.
 

hill83

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,159
fernandopartridge said:
There are 60.5m people in England registered with a GP practice. Circa 22.5% are over 60 years of age so 13.6m plus any under 60s in the priority list.

800k vaccinated as at 24th December in just over two weeks. Going to need to up the ante to get through that lot by April.
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Oxford/AZ vaccine will definitely speed things up massively. Purely on logistics and storage alone.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,160
fernandopartridge said:
There are 60.5m people in England registered with a GP practice. Circa 22.5% are over 60 years of age so 13.6m plus any under 60s in the priority list.

800k vaccinated as at 24th December in just over two weeks. Going to need to up the ante to get through that lot by April.
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Only going slow due to the current vaccines requirements.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,161
David O'Day said:
i'm sticking to easter
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Some ministers saying end of February, allowing for them to be wrong even by a few months and Easter still works.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,162
fernandopartridge said:
There are 60.5m people in England registered with a GP practice. Circa 22.5% are over 60 years of age so 13.6m plus any under 60s in the priority list.

800k vaccinated as at 24th December in just over two weeks. Going to need to up the ante to get through that lot by April.
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Govt identified 15 million in total needing the vaccine to effectively eliminate hospitalisations. Confident it will be done
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,163
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Govt identified 15 million in total needing the vaccine to effectively eliminate hospitalisations. Confident it will be done
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The NHS rollout plan has capacity for one million a week subject to supply. The plan itself is detailed down to the last second. It has those administering the vaccinations working in teams of two so as not to lose time while PPE is being changed between patients. It even details having a separate queue for the likes of those with mobility issues to avoid slowing things down.

If we can achieve anywhere near those numbers then Easter seems realistic to start getting back to normal. Won't be a sudden flip back to 'normal' as some people seem to be expecting though so some expectation management is needed, certainly not helped when Johnson and co fire out comments off the cuff.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,164
chiefdave said:
The NHS rollout plan has capacity for one million a week subject to supply. The plan itself is detailed down to the last second. It has those administering the vaccinations working in teams of two so as not to lose time while PPE is being changed between patients. It even details having a separate queue for the likes of those with mobility issues to avoid slowing things down.

If we can achieve anywhere near those numbers then easter seems realistic to start getting back to normal. Won't be a sudden flip back to 'normal' as some people seem to be expecting though so some expectation management is needed, certainly not helped when Johnson and co fire out comments off the cuff.
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Of course but it is a huge step forward from where we were a few months ago. Even if it might not be entirely normal by then it's still breaking the back of it.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 28, 2020
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Have to admit, being just the wrong side of the arbitrary line of 50, and not having high enough blood pressure to be clinically vulnerable, but high enough to have underlying health issues if I were to appear on the death stats, I'm not overly looking forward to being expected to fend for myself...
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,166
The AZ vaccine would allow them to speed up
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,167
Deleted member 5849 said:
Have to admit, being just the wrong side of the arbitrary line of 50, and not having high enough blood pressure to be clinically vulnerable, but high enough to have underlying health issues if I were to appear on the death stats, I'm not overly looking forward to being expected to fend for myself...
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I'm assuming once the 9 priority groups are done they will release the ones subsequent to that.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,168
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm assuming once the 9 priority groups are done they will release the ones subsequent to that.
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I bet they let us all out as if nothing ever happened while they do that, however...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,169
Deleted member 5849 said:
I bet they let us all out as if nothing ever happened while they do that, however...
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Maybe I'll be allowed out of a box...
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,170
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Maybe I'll be allowed out of a box...
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As long as I'm not pushed into one.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,171
Deleted member 5849 said:
As long as I'm not pushed into one.
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I just fancy a proper pint
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,172
Deleted member 5849 said:
As long as I'm not pushed into one.
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Wouldn’t let that happen NW
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,173
hill83 said:
Oxford/AZ vaccine will definitely speed things up massively. Purely on logistics and storage alone.
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Sorry 800k vaccines = 800k people half vaccinated to date. What's the gap between 1st and 2nd dose on AZ?
 

hill83

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,174
fernandopartridge said:
Sorry 800k vaccines = 800k people half vaccinated to date. What's the gap between 1st and 2nd dose on AZ?
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Not sure. Think it’s similar to the Pfizer one.
It’s all ready to go though. The trigger has been pulled for a few weeks. (Storage/Logistics etc)

Not saying it will be the pace the government are saying but I’m confident it’ll be up there.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 28, 2020
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Wouldn’t let that happen NW
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6ft long, mahogany...
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,176
fernandopartridge said:
There are 60.5m people in England registered with a GP practice. Circa 22.5% are over 60 years of age so 13.6m plus any under 60s in the priority list.

800k vaccinated as at 24th December in just over two weeks. Going to need to up the ante to get through that lot by April.
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Add to that the the 800k will need second dose from early January, so there's 800k vaccination appointments taken up in January before you even think about rolling out to new people.

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hill83

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,177
stupot07 said:
Add to that the the 800k will need second dose from early January, so there's 800k vaccination appointments taken up in January before you even think about rolling out to new people.

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This is where ease of storage with the AZ one comes in. Infinitely more places the vaccinations can take place.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,178
fernandopartridge said:
Sorry 800k vaccines = 800k people half vaccinated to date. What's the gap between 1st and 2nd dose on AZ?
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it's a month, but the advantages are that it doesn't need to be stored at temperatures any where near as low as the Pfizer one which makes it easier to distribute and store.
It's also more effective after one dose than Pfizer though Pfizer is more effective after both doses have been given.

Astra zeneca is 70% effective Pfizer is 90 something percent after both doses.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,179
hill83 said:
Not sure. Think it’s similar to the Pfizer one.
It’s all ready to go though. The trigger has been pulled for a few weeks. (Storage/Logistics etc)

Not saying it will be the pace the government are saying but I’m confident it’ll be up there.
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Yeah the AZ is far far easier for them to take out to the community and give.

It will speedup the pace of vaccination.
 

hill83

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,180
David O'Day said:
Yeah the AZ is far far easier for them to take out to the community and give.

It will speedup the pace of vaccination.
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“2 pints, a scotch egg and a vaccine please barkeep”
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,181
clint van damme said:
it's a month, but the advantages are that it doesn't need to be stored at temperatures any where near as low as the Pfizer one which makes it easier to distribute and store.
It's also more effective after one dose than Pfizer though Pfizer is more effective after both doses have been given.

Astra zeneca is 70% effective Pfizer is 90 something percent after both doses.
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AZ are saying it's 95% effective after more testing.
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,182
hill83 said:
This is where ease of storage with the AZ one comes in. Infinitely more places the vaccinations can take place.
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I agree, I still can't see us getting anywhere near normality until April/May time, and we don't know the long term efficacy of the vaccination. Will it be like Flu and require an annual jab?

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but everyone needs to hold their nerve and stick to the rules, and we will probably need at least one more full lockdown before we're out of it.

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hill83

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,183
Wouldn’t surprise me seeing drive through vaccines being done in the same places testing is being done. We have drive through flu vaccinations at work.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,184
David O'Day said:
AZ are saying it's 95% effective after more testing.
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yeah, they reckon they can 'tweak' it but I don't know what that means as far as getting it passed is concerned.
 

hill83

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #38,185
stupot07 said:
I agree, I still can't see us getting anywhere near normality until April/May time, and we don't know the long term efficacy of the vaccination. Will it be like Flu and require an annual jab?

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but everyone needs to hold their nerve and stick to the rules, and we will probably need at least one more full lockdown before we're out of it.

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Yeah I completely agree. Right now for the long term is the most confident I’ve been though.
 
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