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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,941
CCFCSteve said:
All the science boffins appear genuinely concerned about the spread of new strain but agree, the media, like throughout the pandemic, love to whip up further panic ! Like they have done with the French port border issue - whilst we might run out of certain items of fruit/veg for a short period we aren’t going to starve, however, they then cause panic buying which leads of stock shortages of other unrelated items ie bog rolls !!!
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This one is quite a bit more transmissible than 'vanilla' Covid but if it is shown to be no more dangerous once in the body I'm not *too* concerned.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,942
xcraigx said:
Today's death count has one from July included. No idea how that works but there you go.
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It just means they report that death yesterday
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,943
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This one is quite a bit more transmissible than 'vanilla' Covid but if it is shown to be no more dangerous once in the body I'm not *too* concerned.
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Yeah, I should’ve clarified, all the scientists I’ve heard talking about it are concerned about transmissibility, and that leading to more cases and inturn strain on nhs etc (rather than it being more dangerous)

In my optimistic world I’m hoping if it’s more contagious they ultimately find its mutated to be less dangerous....we can but hope !
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,944
CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, I should’ve clarified, all the scientists I’ve heard talking about it are concerned about transmissibility, and that leading to more cases and inturn strain on nhs etc (rather than it being more dangerous)

In my optimistic world I’m hoping if it’s more contagious they ultimately find its mutated to be less dangerous....we can but hope !
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This mutyatvv
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,945
rob9872 said:
Fekkin got it for Christmas. Had test at Ricoh yesterday and just found out. Typical, worked right throughout lockdown helping keep others safe with sanitation stations and screens etc, now looking forward to break and seeing family and can't go! Plenty others worse in hospital I know, but still majorly pissed off!
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Shit timing mate, just hope it doesn't bite you too hard and the rest of your family are OK. Enjoy Xmas as best you can, and hopefully a win on boxing day.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,946
fernandopartridge said:
This mutyatvv
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Not you as well FP
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,947
Midlands could be upgraded to Tier 4 as of Boxing Day, meeting happening tomorrow to decide
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,948
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Midlands could be upgraded to Tier 4 as of Boxing Day, meeting happening tomorrow to decide
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What on earth is going on? Wednesday Johnson was having a go at Starmer for suggesting tighter restrictions were needed a Christmas. Saturday they announce tier 4 restrictions in London and the South East saying they are needed to stop the new variant spreading round the country. Now, on only the third day of tier 4 restrictions, they're talking about putting the whole country into that tier on Boxing Day.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,949
chiefdave said:
What on earth is going on? Wednesday Johnson was having a go at Starmer for suggesting tighter restrictions were needed a Christmas. Saturday they announce tier 4 restrictions in London and the South East saying they are needed to stop the new variant spreading round the country. Now, on only the third day of tier 4 restrictions, they're talking about putting the whole country into that tier on Boxing Day.
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I'm guessing they've been persuaded by a few journalists questioning them yesterday on not reviewing the tiers sooner than planned.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,950

SARS-CoV-2 Variant – United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

On 14 December 2020, authorities of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland reported to WHO that a new SARS-CoV-2 variant was identified through viral genomic sequencing. This variant is referred to as SARS-CoV-2 VUI 202012/01 (Variant Under Investigation, year 2020, month 12...
www.who.int
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,951
There may be a problem coming when part of the World decides to close the door on all travel with you.
 
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Bugsy

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,952
Just think thou least things can only get better
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,953
chiefdave said:
What on earth is going on? Wednesday Johnson was having a go at Starmer for suggesting tighter restrictions were needed a Christmas. Saturday they announce tier 4 restrictions in London and the South East saying they are needed to stop the new variant spreading round the country. Now, on only the third day of tier 4 restrictions, they're talking about putting the whole country into that tier on Boxing Day
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Sounds like literally all bets are off in terms of previous restrictions/tier plans. Even talk of schools being closed for January as they think it ‘might’ transmit more easily between kids compared to previous strains/variants. Guess they’ll know more following further research now they know what they’re looking for/at.

By all accounts we might have shot ourselves in the foot a bit by actually having very good genomic surveillance/kind of testing that can spotted the sequencing changes (all above my GCSE science knowledge maybe BSB or other science bods will know more ?). Apparently we do way more Genomic surveillance than most/all other countries. Could’ve even started elsewhere but nobody else has spotted it til now.

Let’s hope it’s not as bad as first feared and transmission isn’t as rapid as they have modelled. As BSB mentioned and by all accounts it’s no more dangerous. Makes the AZ/Oxford vaccine sign off even more important though....let’s all hope this happens in coming days !

Ps should've kept our heads down China style, waited for it to be common everywhere then flagged it - kidding obviously !
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,954
Bugsy said:
Just think thou least things can only get better
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really?

NHS leaders raise concerns over pace of Covid vaccine rollout

Exclusive: more than half of hospital trusts in England yet to receive supplies as variant spreads
www.theguardian.com
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,955
A vaccination centre has opened by my house, in a cricket club car park. Steady stream of old folk going in today which is good to see.
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,956
fernandopartridge said:
A vaccination centre has opened by my house, in a cricket club car park. Steady stream of old folk going in today which is good to see.
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Hopefully that means a few of them will get to their century.
 
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hill83

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,957
fernandopartridge said:
A vaccination centre has opened by my house, in a cricket club car park. Steady stream of old folk going in today which is good to see.
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Breaking new boundaries every day.
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,958
hill83 said:
Breaking new boundaries every day.
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Let’s hope it will soon be over.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,959
LastGarrison said:
Let’s hope it will soon be over.
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And Out !!!
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,960
Don't know how I got roped into this.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,961
This series of puns has really made me crease, thanks everybody. Wicket bantz
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,962
 

Brylowes

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,963
Kieranp96 said:
I ain't bothered about Boris or conservatives, I am how ever bothered about corbyn and his stance to go against the British people and scrap the referendum results, that's why they got my vote this time around, and honestly if Labour don't sort there shit they will get it next time around aswell.
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Of all the problems in the short, medium and long term facing the future of this Country caused by the misguided catastrophe that is Brexit, this for me is one of the worst ‘ and definitely the most annoying.
People like this who previously had no interest in, opinion on, or understanding of politics were hoodwinked in with tales of a phantom enemy and fantasy’s of nationalism and faux patriotic bravado.
And now they won’t Fuck off...
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,964
Well I have previously wondered about this.
The relevant age groups to target first


Tony Blair: We are in a race against time – we must change our vaccine policy now

Vaccine strategy should be changed – to get a single shot to as many people as possible to slow the spread of coronavirus
www.independent.co.uk
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,965
fernandopartridge said:
The lag between cases and deaths is longer than 3 weeks. Cases to hospitalisations is 2-3 weeks at least and deaths are a week or two more. There will be a few days of 1k + deaths in the first week or two of January at least
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So case's this time around are likely a third+ higher than the original April peak .
Circa 130000-140000 thousand cases a day
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,966
Brylowes said:
Of all the problems in the short, medium and long term facing the future of this Country caused by the misguided catastrophe that is Brexit, this for me is one of the worst ‘ and definitely the most annoying.
People like this who previously had no interest in, opinion on, or understanding of politics were hoodwinked in with tales of a phantom enemy and fantasy’s of nationalism and faux patriotic bravado.
And now they won’t Fuck off...
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Why should I fuck off? And what's to say j had no interest in politics prior? Brexit will do wonders for this country, probaly why Multipul other EU country's are waiting to see how we do before telling them to fuxk off thereselfs, kinda fun t how it's all this "everyone has a opinion" until you disagree then you go all bitchy, if your that bothered about the EU I'm certain it wouldn't take you long to get a visa and fuxk off to France, Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Netherlands, Belgium ect.
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,967
Turkey's not in the EU.
Not picking sides, just saying.
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,968
Fwiw I think most voted based on immigration. There will be lots who didn't but most did. I voted out. After 4 years and with what's going on elsewhere, I reckon if the EU said you can look after your borders but anyone who's there can stay and we'll just carry on as before, then most would say fair enough crack on. For democracy sake it needs carrying through to some degree but 4 years is huge and I'm sure they'd all cancel it if they could.
 

Brylowes

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,969
Kieranp96 said:
Didn't say that in his statements did he otherwise everyone would of voted in him and Diane spastic abbot.
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Kieranp96 said:
Pass I like they way it's type, I am correct though she is a spastic, c**t can't even count to 4.
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You literally struggle to string more than a couple of words together, and yet you speak in such a disgusting way about someone that would have began life with no more advantages than you ‘yet went on to achieve so much.
And She fights for you as well.......Prick
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,970
Kieranp96 said:
Why should I fuck off? And what's to say j had no interest in politics prior? Brexit will do wonders for this country, probaly why Multipul other EU country's are waiting to see how we do before telling them to fuxk off thereselfs, kinda fun t how it's all this "everyone has a opinion" until you disagree then you go all bitchy, if your that bothered about the EU I'm certain it wouldn't take you long to get a visa and fuxk off to France, Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Netherlands, Belgium ect.
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Ireland Will do.
You can keep it all for you and your ilk.
Xenophobe.


Edit:-

Anyway fuck off to the Brexit thread if that is what you
champion.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,971
Kieranp96 said:
Why should I fuck off? And what's to say j had no interest in politics prior? Brexit will do wonders for this country, probaly why Multipul other EU country's are waiting to see how we do before telling them to fuxk off thereselfs, kinda fun t how it's all this "everyone has a opinion" until you disagree then you go all bitchy, if your that bothered about the EU I'm certain it wouldn't take you long to get a visa and fuxk off to France, Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Netherlands, Belgium ect.
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I’m not even sure why you’re so anti EU, you seem to be writing in a mixture of most member states languages.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,972
rob9872 said:
Fwiw I think most voted based on immigration. There will be lots who didn't but most did. I voted out. After 4 years and with what's going on elsewhere, I reckon if the EU said you can look after your borders but anyone who's there can stay and we'll just carry on as before, then most would say fair enough crack on. For democracy sake it needs carrying through to some degree but 4 years is huge and I'm sure they'd all cancel it if they could.
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We always had control over our own borders, for proof look to the member states shutting theirs to us this week.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,973
Brylowes said:
You literally struggle to string more than a couple of words together, and yet you speak in such a disgusting way about someone that would have began life with no more advantages than you ‘yet went on to achieve so much.
And She fights for you as well.......Prick
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Did Corbyn sleep with her then? Fair play Jez, gone up in the shagger ranks.
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,974
Brylowes said:
We always had control over our own borders, for proof look to the member states shutting theirs to us this week.
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Not entirely sure I agree but certainly lost my appetite for another Brexit row with an outcome that none of us can influence, so I'll leave that to the other thread
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2020
  • #37,975
CCFCSteve said:
Sounds like literally all bets are off in terms of previous restrictions/tier plans. Even talk of schools being closed for January as they think it ‘might’ transmit more easily between kids compared to previous strains/variants. Guess they’ll know more following further research now they know what they’re looking for/at.

By all accounts we might have shot ourselves in the foot a bit by actually having very good genomic surveillance/kind of testing that can spotted the sequencing changes (all above my GCSE science knowledge maybe BSB or other science bods will know more ?). Apparently we do way more Genomic surveillance than most/all other countries. Could’ve even started elsewhere but nobody else has spotted it til now.

Let’s hope it’s not as bad as first feared and transmission isn’t as rapid as they have modelled. As BSB mentioned and by all accounts it’s no more dangerous. Makes the AZ/Oxford vaccine sign off even more important though....let’s all hope this happens in coming days !

Ps should've kept our heads down China style, waited for it to be common everywhere then flagged it - kidding obviously !
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Sequencing the genome of a virus is quite easy to do these days, but you would need to co-ordinate samples being sequenced from the overall test pool, which is how they are even able to pinpoint where the mutation first arose. We should still of course be cautious awaiting the tests on the lethality of this new strain compared to the vanilla one, but I am quietly optimistic that it will be no worse.

For those concerned about it cheating the vaccine, the yearly flu shot is also changed every year because influenza also takes on different strains regularly enough. The government's focus must remain on rolling out the vaccine to the most vulnerable in the shortest time.
 
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