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Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,906
Kieranp96 said:
I ain't bothered about Boris or conservatives, I am how ever bothered about corbyn and his stance to go against the British people and scrap the referendum results, that's why they got my vote this time around, and honestly if Labour don't sort there shit they will get it next time around aswell.
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Corbyn has wanted out of the EU longer than you've been alive I'm gonna guess.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,907
I used to live in Sweden.

The general consensus over there is not of them owning their policies. I've seen one or two people come out (like one of the posts above), but they generally are standing fairly firm on what they've done.

At this point I'm not saying it is right or wrong, I'm completely disillusioned by it all and think something still doesn't add up to be honest. But for sure the swedes generally aren't very accepting that they've made a catastrophic mistake or anything like that.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,908
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I used to live in Sweden.

The general consensus over there is not of them owning their policies. I've seen one or two people come out (like one of the posts above), but they generally are standing fairly firm on what they've done.

At this point I'm not saying it is right or wrong, I'm completely disillusioned by it all and think something still doesn't add up to be honest. But for sure the swedes generally aren't very accepting that they've made a catastrophic mistake or anything like that.
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You'd never ever get even close to this in this country

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Ministers kept talking about our success even when are numbers were appalling and I'm fairly sure they never took responsibility for covid patients being returned to care homes. That's just for starters.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,909
clint van damme said:
You'd never ever get even close to this in this country

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Ministers kept talking about our success even when are numbers were appalling and I'm fairly sure they never took responsibility for covid patients being returned to care homes. That's just for starters.
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The most we've got is Hancock saying they lost control of the virus. Even then he'll pin that on something else
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,910
rob9872 said:
Fekkin got it for Christmas. Had test at Ricoh yesterday and just found out. Typical, worked right throughout lockdown helping keep others safe with sanitation stations and screens etc, now looking forward to break and seeing family and can't go! Plenty others worse in hospital I know, but still majorly pissed off!
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Just don't croak it and you'd be fine even if you did these lot be like "it ain't that bad".
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,911
Skybluefaz said:
Corbyn has wanted out of the EU longer than you've been alive I'm gonna guess.
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Didn't say that in his statements did he otherwise everyone would of voted in him and Diane spastic abbot.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,912
Kieranp96 said:
Didn't say that in his statements did he otherwise everyone would of voted in him and Diane spastic abbot.
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You should probably delete this and re-word it
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,913
Jamesimus said:
You should probably delete this and re-word it
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That would require the capability to use words...
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,914
clint van damme said:
You'd never ever get even close to this in this country

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Ministers kept talking about our success even when are numbers were appalling and I'm fairly sure they never took responsibility for covid patients being returned to care homes. That's just for starters.
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Back to normal by Xmas, said Boris.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,915
Nick said:
It seems like it.

If the new Strain was known about in September like they have said then why would they not mention it then and lockdown at that point?

It all seemed nicely timed.
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Sort of what I was thinking. I do stress it was his wife said it and not him. Not saying she’s prone to exaggeration but I haven’t talked to him in yonks because he’s basically not stopped work all year working 7 day weeks and 12+ hours a day, don’t think he’s taken a single days holiday either. Which was why I was interested in what FP had heard.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,916
chiefdave said:
Speaking of test and trace I see they're now reaching 92% of contacts. Not at all related to changing the counting method.
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This is good news (assuming correct). The counting method changes are sensible and should’ve been implemented sooner. From what I’ve read, now they aren’t trying to contact every separate member of the household. Previously this led to numerous calls to the same household especially when kids were involved, which I’m guessing led to ignoring of calls etc, presumably impacting tracing percentages.

The system is kind of irrelevant anyway if only c20% properly self isolate but let’s hope more people properly follow the reduced self isolation periods and Track and Trace continue to do what they’re paid to do
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,917
CCFCSteve said:
This is good news (assuming correct). The counting method changes are sensible and should’ve been implemented sooner. From what I’ve read, now they aren’t trying to contact every separate member of the household. Previously this led to numerous calls to the same household especially when kids were involved, which I’m guessing led to ignoring of calls etc, presumably impacting tracing percentages.

The system is kind of irrelevant anyway if only c20% properly self isolate but let’s hope more people properly follow the reduced self isolation periods and Track and Trace continue to do what they’re paid to do
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Regarding kids we’ve only ever been contacted by the school, not track and trace. If that’s common to all schools I suspect that the kid excuse is somewhat of a red herring and more likely that they’re counting the schools track and trace as their own and adding to the numbers to make them look better. Sceptical I know but this government has worked hard to deserve scepticism.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,918
CCFCSteve said:
This is good news (assuming correct). The counting method changes are sensible and should’ve been implemented sooner. From what I’ve read, now they aren’t trying to contact every separate member of the household. Previously this led to numerous calls to the same household especially when kids were involved, which I’m guessing led to ignoring of calls etc, presumably impacting tracing percentages.

The system is kind of irrelevant anyway if only c20% properly self isolate but let’s hope more people properly follow the reduced self isolation periods and Track and Trace continue to do what they’re paid to do
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I don't think that's right Steve because every member of a household doesn't have to isolate so they only contact the person who has been named by the infected person. As far as I'm aware and in my experience, it's always been like that.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,919
clint van damme said:
I don't think that's right Steve because every member of a household doesn't have to isolate so they only contact the person who has been named by the infected person. As far as I'm aware and in my experience, it's always been like that.
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I think you’re right CD. When our kids have been told they have to self isolate (by the school, not track and trace) it’s only the one child and no adults that have to self isolate. Both my kids have had to have one round of self isolating, both in the same school and not once has the school said the sibling should also be off and not once were either myself or my wife contacted by track and trace and told to self isolate. And I believe that’s 100% to the guidelines too.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,920
rob9872 said:
Fekkin got it for Christmas. Had test at Ricoh yesterday and just found out. Typical, worked right throughout lockdown helping keep others safe with sanitation stations and screens etc, now looking forward to break and seeing family and can't go! Plenty others worse in hospital I know, but still majorly pissed off!
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Get well soon. And don’t scare us by taking any internet breaks until you’re better!
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,921
Jamesimus said:
You should probably delete this and re-word it
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Pass I like they way it's type, I am correct though she is a spastic, c**t can't even count to 4.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,922
Jamesimus said:
You should probably delete this and re-word it
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Capital A in abbot?
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,923
Kieranp96 said:
Pass I like they way it's type, I am correct though she is a spastic, c**t can't even count to 4.
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You're a very nice person, with a much greater understanding of politics than the little sound bites you bleat suggest. It's just a shame someone has shuffled all the keys on your keyboard around, otherwise I'm sure we'd get on.
 

Jamesimus

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,924
Grendel said:
Capital A in abbot?
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Let's not nitpick hey
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,925
clint van damme said:
I don't think that's right Steve because every member of a household doesn't have to isolate so they only contact the person who has been named by the infected person. As far as I'm aware and in my experience, it's always been like that.
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The percentage Dave posted (and where they changed the counting method) was close contact tracing. Im not an avid Mirror reader but here’s a link (first google result)

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My additional comment was separate and about number of people fully self isolating ie what’s the point in us spending vast sums tracking and tracing and then people don’t isolate anyway. Probably wasnt clear but think both points are correct
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,926
skybluetony176 said:
Regarding kids we’ve only ever been contacted by the school, not track and trace. If that’s common to all schools I suspect that the kid excuse is somewhat of a red herring and more likely that they’re counting the schools track and trace as their own and adding to the numbers to make them look better. Sceptical I know but this government has worked hard to deserve scepticism.
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Im not sure about schools Tony. My understanding is that the change in counting method was more about say a household (mum, dad, three kids) had been in contact with someone with Covid, it appears that track and trace would previously try and call/contact all five of them separately, now it sounds like they’d just speak to mum or dad and tick the box
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,927
" Official figures show the UK has recorded 36,804 new daily cases of COVID-19 and a further 691 deaths following a positive test "
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,928
David O'Day said:
" Official figures show the UK has recorded 36,804 new daily cases of COVID-19 and a further 691 deaths following a positive test "
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Fucking awful. Won't take long to hit 1000 dead a day if this carries on.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,929
Thx all. Feel ok, obviously annoyed at no family contact but in hindsight a smalll price to pay for them all to be ok. As for symptoms I actually feel ok. No energy and pretty lethargic, but assumed a it down to working hard for months, it was the loss of smell that encourage me to get tested. Otherwise fairly symptom free and certainly no pain etc or not yet. Hopefully remains like this.
 
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xcraigx

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,930
David O'Day said:
" Official figures show the UK has recorded 36,804 new daily cases of COVID-19 and a further 691 deaths following a positive test "
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A few hours ago the BBC posted a story about how deaths were going down. The current death count trend is something that seems to be bucking the experts opinion - that there's a 2 or 3 week lag between cases and deaths. 3 weeks ago were about to leave lockdown and cases were half what we are now reporting so the death rate shouldn't really be ramping up for a week or two.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,931
I'm sure the media are trying to get everybody scared about the "mutant covid".
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,932
CCFCSteve said:
The percentage Dave posted (and where they changed the counting method) was close contact tracing. Im not an avid Mirror reader but here’s a link (first google result)

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My additional comment was separate and about number of people fully self isolating ie what’s the point in us spending vast sums tracking and tracing and then people don’t isolate anyway. Probably wasnt clear but think both points are correct
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Got ya. They were counting every member I thought you meant they were contacting every member
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,933
Nick said:
I'm sure the media are trying to get everybody scared about the "mutant covid".
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All the science boffins appear genuinely concerned about the spread of new strain but agree, the media, like throughout the pandemic, love to whip up further panic ! Like they have done with the French port border issue - whilst we might run out of certain items of fruit/veg for a short period we aren’t going to starve, however, they then cause panic buying which leads of stock shortages of other unrelated items ie bog rolls !!!
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,934
clint van damme said:
Got ya. They were counting every member I thought you meant they were contacting every member
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Previously tried to contact every household member (even kids), now contacting one person and counting whole household as contacted.

think that’s right anyway
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,935
CCFCSteve said:
Previously tried to contact every household member (even kids), now contacting one person and counting whole household as contacted.

think that’s right anyway
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Now I haven't got ya! They definitely weren't contacting every house hold member previously.
Unless we're going back months
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,936
clint van damme said:
Now I haven't got ya! They definitely weren't contacting every house hold member previously.
Unless we're going back months
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Haha, I’m only relaying what I’d read (could be wrong !!!) If the whole household had been in contact with the Covid person and they each had their details provided to track and trace (or I’m guessing all of their details were individually picked up by the app), it sounds like track and trace would try to contact each of them individually. That’s what the articles have been saying. Whether they did, who knows.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,937
xcraigx said:
A few hours ago the BBC posted a story about how deaths were going down. The current death count trend is something that seems to be bucking the experts opinion - that there's a 2 or 3 week lag between cases and deaths. 3 weeks ago were about to leave lockdown and cases were half what we are now reporting so the death rate shouldn't really be ramping up for a week or two.
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You can't say there's a lag as most people don't die on the day they are reported.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,938
David O'Day said:
You can't say there's a lag as most people don't die on the day they are reported.
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The lag between cases and deaths is longer than 3 weeks. Cases to hospitalisations is 2-3 weeks at least and deaths are a week or two more. There will be a few days of 1k + deaths in the first week or two of January at least
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,939
fernandopartridge said:
The lag between cases and deaths is longer than 3 weeks. Cases to hospitalisations is 2-3 weeks at least and deaths are a week or two more. There will be a few days of 1k + deaths in the first week or two of January at least
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also yesterdays deaths had people who had died at the start of November
 
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xcraigx

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  • Dec 22, 2020
  • #37,940
David O'Day said:
also yesterdays deaths had people who had died at the start of November
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Today's death count has one from July included. No idea how that works but there you go.
 
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