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clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,731
skybluetony176 said:
MHancock caught bullshitting again
Too dumb to work out that if you’re going to be a good liar you need a good memory, at least longer than 4 days.
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think is, even if he WAS telling the truth he's showing himself to be totally incompetent if he only found out about this a week ago. Either way, he's not fit for the office he holds, luckily for him his boss is equally inept.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,732
hill83 said:
The Canary Islands are named after dogs not birds.
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That'll do!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,733
Deleted member 5849 said:
Tell me something I don't know!
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Oranges aren’t a naturally occurring fruit. It’s actually a hybrid of two other citrus fruits. One’s a tangerine, don’t recall the other.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,734
skybluetony176 said:
If you mean wet markets then yes we do.
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Do you think they might be revised downward?
Say in a couple of months?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,735
xcraigx said:
Cases started going up in London before the end of the last lockdown. Mostly driven by this new strain. Not good. I suppose after yesterday's evacuation of London we will soon find out how quickly it can spread.
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Where's the data
1000 cases against several hundred thousand in the same period?
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,736
skybluetony176 said:
MHancock caught bullshitting again
Too dumb to work out that if you’re going to be a good liar you need a good memory, at least longer than 4 days.
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I quoted the wrong post of yours just above.
He's up for an Oscar.
More theatrical than Redwood singing the Welsh national anthem.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,737
hill83 said:
I’d be more annoyed if pubs were open. But I’ve known my shift rotation since the beginning of the year so I’m not annoyed. I am annoyed I’m in the office though.

And I’m annoyed people assume it’s feet up season.

So overall I’m annoyed.
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Track and trace staff are in including the day and five others .
No overtime maybe a day off in Lue.
Only got the shift pattern yesterday .
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,738
skybluetony176 said:
MHancock caught bullshitting again
Too dumb to work out that if you’re going to be a good liar you need a good memory, at least longer than 4 days.
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Now I’m no fan of Hancock (he’s a prick) however I think there was a difference between the two comments. It sounds like he knew about the new strain over a week ago but they only found out about the issue of its significantly increased transmissibility (is that a word ?! looks weird when written) on Friday when Witty and Vallance had a call with government. Opens up another debate as to when the boffins knew about it (think signs are as early as Sept but they’re not going to have all data relating to it straight away) etc etc. To be fair, it just sounds like shit pre Xmas luck for us all...stick it on the pile !
 

tisza

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,739
CCFCSteve said:
Now I’m no fan of Hancock (he’s a prick) however I think there was a difference between the two comments. It sounds like he knew about the new strain over a week ago but they only found out about the issue of its significantly increased transmissibility (is that a word ?! looks weird when written) on Friday when Witty and Vallance had a call with government. Opens up another debate as to when the boffins knew about it (think signs are as early as Sept but they’re not going to have all data relating to it straight away) etc etc. To be fair, it just sounds like shit pre Xmas luck for us all...stick it on the pile !
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surely it takes some period of time to measure whether a variant is more / less contagious or dangerous or could impact vaccination effectiveness?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,740
tisza said:
surely it takes some period of time to measure whether a variant is more / less contagious or dangerous or could impact vaccination effectiveness?
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Exactly. That’s what I was trying to say (not very well obviously !) ie that they might see there’s a new strain/variant but you’re not going to have any info/data on how it differs etc for a while. Suppose it’s good news that the boffins spotted it really...even if it has fucked up a lot of people’s Christmas
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,741
Deleted member 5849 said:
Each day seems to drag, but we're in December when I'm sure it was August just last week!

Guess that's what happens when every day turns into pretty much the same(!)
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Yeah that's it, I usually have more than one holiday or break but nothing this year. Usually buy extra holiday on top of our basic allowance but missed the cut off so didn't for 2020.
It's just been many many days of the same thing. Now at the end of the year can't even go for a pint or even just a meal cooked by somebody else.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,742
tisza said:
surely it takes some period of time to measure whether a variant is more / less contagious or dangerous or could impact vaccination effectiveness?
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Apparently samples were taken in September, tested in October and results were in.start of December
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,743
tisza said:
surely it takes some period of time to measure whether a variant is more / less contagious or dangerous or could impact vaccination effectiveness?
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Well Tisza there has been no actual data published or released as of yet ,on something that was first noticed 3months back.
Just that as of Wednesday there had been 1000 case's.
Whatever it is is being spun .
Maybe as arse covering for past errors,or maybe a scare tactic of this indirect method we have of issuing protocols advice to follow, usually requiring a mind readers intuition to decipher just what the idiot's really mean or expect .
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,744
tisza said:
surely it takes some period of time to measure whether a variant is more / less contagious or dangerous or could impact vaccination effectiveness?
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They identified the new variant back in September
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,745
skybluetony176 said:
If you mean wet markets then yes we do.
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Nah the Tudor Rose is shut down.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,746
CCFCSteve said:
Exactly. That’s what I was trying to say (not very well obviously !) ie that they might see there’s a new strain/variant but you’re not going to have any info/data on how it differs etc for a while. Suppose it’s good news that the boffins spotted it really...even if it has fucked up a lot of people’s Christmas
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The plan has worked, it's the new variant that's fucked up Christmas not the abysmal messaging of this government.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,747
clint van damme said:
Apparently samples were taken in September, tested in October and results were in.start of December
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heard a professor from Imperial college discussing it yesterday, which reassured me that it wasn’t part of some weird conspiracy. I think other countries reactions and the latest case data also support this
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,748
I wish we had done a secret santa, too late now.

That would have cheered us all up.


 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,749
CCFCSteve said:
heard a professor from Imperial college discussing it yesterday, which reassured me that it wasn’t part of some weird conspiracy. I think other countries reactions and the latest case data also support this
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I've got to admit I'm sceptical.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,750
fernandopartridge said:
The plan has worked, it's the new variant that's fucked up Christmas not the abysmal messaging of this government.
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The messaging was shit. I would’ve always managed expectations to say restrictions could change at any time etc etc but as mentioned above it appears the strain/variant is genuine and issues only became apparent recently

Ps Christmas was fucked in some way for most anyway, it’s the level of fucked that’s altered.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,751
clint van damme said:
I've got to admit I'm sceptical.
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I was as well.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,752
Anybody else going to be on their own for most of Christmas day want a wanking race?
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,753
Nick said:
Anybody else going to be on their own for most of Christmas day want a wanking race?
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Socks on?
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,754
wingy said:
Socks on?
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Donnay ones are mine of choice.

Wilson when Wimbledon is on to get on the bandwagon.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,755
Nick said:
Donnay ones are mine of choice.

Wilson when Wimbledon is on to get on the bandwagon.
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Always think of that Hank's film when Wilson Wilson Wilson gets mentioned.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,756
clint van damme said:
Apparently samples were taken in September, tested in October and results were in.start of December
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Where is this info please?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,757
Rich said:
Where is this info please?
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Saw it on my Twitter timeline earlier so no idea of it's accuracy just something sounds dodgy about the whole new strain thing to me.

edit - thought it might have been in the timeline of the Anthony Costello article but i couldn't find it but I did find this on a similar theme:

 
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tisza

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,758
Rich said:
Where is this info please?
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New coronavirus variant: What do we know? lot here.
The scary part is the supposition of where it came from. That one person could be the source for all these infections
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,759
tisza said:
New coronavirus variant: What do we know? lot here.
The scary part is the supposition of where it came from. That one person could be the source for all these infections
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the virus has mutated several times , they see this in the samples , this one was detected earlier and linked to an increasing number, this mutating bit scares me to be honest , this one which is more transmissible by 70 per cent will catch the people that skirt the rules , I can see whole families going down with it and the old ones suffering the most , now of all times obey the rules to save lives , if you don’t it will catch you out this time and stay off the pop
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,760
tisza said:
New coronavirus variant: What do we know? lot here.
The scary part is the supposition of where it came from. That one person could be the source for all these infections
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Won't that always be the case though?
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,761
clint van damme said:
Saw it on my Twitter timeline earlier so no idea of it's accuracy just something sounds dodgy about the whole new strain thing to me.

edit - thought it might have been in the timeline of the Anthony Costello article but i couldn't find it but I did find this on a similar theme:

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Yes which has resulted in 1000 + of those, case's,how many overall have occurred in the specific areas mentioned during this period exactly ?
 
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xcraigx

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,762
wingy said:
Where's the data
1000 cases against several hundred thousand in the same period?
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Yeah, you're right, I shouldn't have said mostly. Assuming the %s Whitty gave yesterday are somewhere near accurate then this new strain will have accounted for around 4,000 cases in the capital a week in mid November at 28% and around 25,000 this week just finished at 60%. A 6 fold increase in around a month.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,763
xcraigx said:
Yeah, you're right, I shouldn't have said mostly. Assuming the %s Whitty gave yesterday are somewhere near accurate then this new strain will have accounted for around 4,000 cases in the capital a week in mid November at 28% and around 25,000 this week just finished at 60%. A 6 fold increase in around a month.
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Ta it's just that Hancock used the 1000 figure in parlaiment on Wednesday,then it was said around 1100-1200 on yesterday's news
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,764
tisza said:
New coronavirus variant: What do we know? lot here.
The scary part is the supposition of where it came from. That one person could be the source for all these infections
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When you read through that there are many queries related to the transmission.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,765
wingy said:
When you read through that there are many queries related to the transmission.
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Yeah, still uncertain but guessing they’ve looked at likely higher transmission, the jump in cases over past few days, anticipated Christmas travel activity and modelling and decided they can’t risk it. Like some of the modelling though, a bit questionable as element of guess work (especially early stage info/data)
 
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