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chiefdave

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,591
clint van damme said:
fuck me

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Its almost as if the phone companies are rolling out 5G in the most populated areas first.
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,592
clint van damme said:
fuck me

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Stick the nutters on a boat that’s heading for the edge of the flat Earth.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,593
chiefdave said:
Its almost as if the phone companies are rolling out 5G in the most populated areas first.
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it's not difficult is it?!

You could make the correlation with almost anything!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,594
Ian1779 said:
Stick the nutters on a boat that’s heading for the edge of the flat Earth.
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They could have a Raffell to see who goes on it
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,595
SBT said:
The new strain doesn’t exist mate. If they’d just cancelled Joshua vs Pulev and closed Harrod’s then we’d all be back to normal by now.
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No the insert buzz spin word here mutation.exists
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,596
clint van damme said:
it's not difficult is it?!

You could make the correlation with almost anything!
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Old but classic:

The 10 Most Bizarre Correlations

<b>One of the first things you learn in any statistics class is that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation" target="_blank">correlation</a> doesn't imply causation.</b> Nonetheless, it's fun to consider the causal relationships one could infer from these...
www.buzzfeednews.com
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,597
Liquid Gold said:
Schools are obviously the issue. It was nowhere to be seen over summer and as soon as schools went back things skyrocketed. They’re keeping kids in schools because they’re encouraging parents to go to work. If they’re serious about sending cases down schools should lock down like the rest of the country.
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You’re probably right but as a parent the most difficult thing during the first lockdown was watching your kids rot. It was absolutely right to send them back but the issue is there’s been no joined up thinking. They could have gone back on reduced hours, the government wasted months not thinking about how to make schools Covid “safe”, they could have shortened the terms and extended half term and Xmas holidays ahead of Xmas etc. So many lost opportunity from a government scarred to govern during a crisis. Everything has been reactive not proactive and we keep paying the price for that and most likely will keep paying because this leopard can’t change it’s spots.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,598
SBT said:
The new strain doesn’t exist mate. If they’d just cancelled Joshua vs Pulev and closed Harrod’s then we’d all be back to normal by now.
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There probably wouldn't be a "tier 4" if there was some common sense when coming up with the tiered bullshit in the first place.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,599
skybluetony176 said:
You’re probably right but as a parent the most difficult thing during the first lockdown was watching your kids rot. It was absolutely right to send them back but the issue is there’s been no joined up thinking. They could have gone back on reduced hours, the government wasted months not thinking about how to make schools Covid “safe”, they could have shortened the terms and extended half term and Xmas holidays ahead of Xmas etc. So many lost opportunity from a government scarred to govern during a crisis. Everything has been reactive not proactive and we keep paying the price for that and most likely will keep paying because this leopard can’t change it’s spots.
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If they go back in then classify the whole school as a bubble, allow lessons to be delivered normally and extend the school day so we are in for fewer days overall. Though as I continue to offer, if any parent of secondary age children would like recorded, interactive lessons free of charge with worksheets they need only ask.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,600
Nick said:
There probably wouldn't be a "tier 4" if there was some common sense when coming up with the tiered bullshit in the first place.
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Glad to see you agree it’s the government’s bizarre handling of it all, and not some kind of cockney conspiracy, that’s to blame for this all going to shit. You got there in the end.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,601
SBT said:
Glad to see you agree it’s the government’s bizarre handling of it all, and not some kind of cockney conspiracy, that’s to blame for this all going to shit. You got there in the end.
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It's you banging on about conspiracies.

Still, now there's the super corona I guess those Nightingale hospitals might get some use?

Some of the things like Tier 2 are so stupid it's hard to think they aren't being done on purpose for some reason.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,602
Nick said:
It's you banging on about conspiracies.

Still, now there's the super corona I guess those Nightingale hospitals might get some use?
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Would you want Nick Jr bringing it home?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,603
skybluetony176 said:
You’re probably right but as a parent the most difficult thing during the first lockdown was watching your kids rot. It was absolutely right to send them back but the issue is there’s been no joined up thinking. They could have gone back on reduced hours, the government wasted months not thinking about how to make schools Covid “safe”, they could have shortened the terms and extended half term and Xmas holidays ahead of Xmas etc. So many lost opportunity from a government scarred to govern during a crisis. Everything has been reactive not proactive and we keep paying the price for that and most likely will keep paying because this leopard can’t change it’s spots.
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At this moment in time schools are the biggest source of infection rates - especially Secondary. Anyone saying that is not true is deluded. 1000 kids missing freely in bubbles of 200+ a time, the mixing as a whole before and after school and all through the evenings and weekends.

Nothing will change on curtailing the spread as long as schools stay open in their current format. So you either move to staggered teaching in school with breaks of time in between, remote learning or you get your testing system set up in place and make it robust.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,604
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Would you want Nick Jr bringing it home?
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She probably already has or vice versa.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,605
Nick said:
It's you banging on about conspiracies.

Still, now there's the super corona I guess those Nightingale hospitals might get some use?

Some of the things like Tier 2 are so stupid it's hard to think they aren't being done on purpose for some reason.
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You are beyond parody sometimes
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,606
SBT said:
You are beyond parody sometimes
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Sorry, it was a great idea and nobody could have foreseen a massive spike after that decision.

Was only a few days ago some prick was threatening to sue schools if they closed early.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,607
Grendel said:
Just adapt for a tiny period in your working life?
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They did. With minimal time, resources or support from the government to do so they set up online teaching. Now they want the kids in schools and teachers have to do that again but under distancing protocols etc which makes it very difficult. And that decision wasn't made because it was the correct one but because they wanted people back at work so they needed babysitters so people could work. They've spent months telling everyone it's not being transmitted in schools when the data and just an ounce of commonsense thinking about how kids act tells you it must be and it spreads to other groups from there. It's not being done because it's the right thing to do but because we're slaves to £££.

Along with that they've got no idea what they're exactly teaching for because there's no advice given on exams this year and now they've been asked to put in place a testing regime with no money that billions in govt funding hasn't yet managed to achieve on top of their normal work.

Now I think a greater consideration should be given to longer days and having shorter terms with longer breaks between each allied to lockdown in those periods to contain the spread, but as things have been it's an almost untenable position. If you'd got treated so shabbily and worthlessly by your employer for the same level of pay you'd have already left.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,608
Who needs there arse covering the most here?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,609
Nick said:
Sorry, it was a great idea and nobody could have foreseen a massive spike after that decision.

Was only a few days ago some prick was threatening to sue schools if they closed early.
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But you want them open?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,610
Brighton Sky Blue said:
But you want them open?
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My point is that they keep doing u turns and there's only so many times it can be due to being inept.

If they are going to close them anyway, not much of an issue to finish a couple of days earlier to get a head start for January.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,611
Nick said:
My point is that they keep doing u turns and there's only so many times it can be due to being inept.
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You've seen Boris Johnson, the amount of times he can be inept is limitless!
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,612
Deleted member 5849 said:
You've seen Boris Johnson, the amount of times he can be inept is limitless!
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Yeah then there's all the highly educated Gimps around him.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,613
Nick said:
My point is that they keep doing u turns and there's only so many times it can be due to being inept.

If they are going to close them anyway, not much of an issue to finish a couple of days earlier to get a head start for January.
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The councils wanted them closed early because they can see what most of us can about their big role in transmission. The government threatens to sue them then later goes for ‘Tier 4’. My point is teachers are much better equipped to deliver a short period of remote learning than we were to deliver months of it in March. Get everyone a device and internet over Christmas and deliver it remotely until we have x number of people vaccinated and the cases below a certain threshold.

We are going back into national lockdown in January anyway.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,614
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The councils wanted them closed early because they can see what most of us can about their big role in transmission. The government threatens to sue them then later goes for ‘Tier 4’. My point is teachers are much better equipped to deliver a short period of remote learning than we were to deliver months of it in March. Get everyone a device and internet over Christmas and deliver it remotely until we have x number of people vaccinated and the cases below a certain threshold.

We are going back into national lockdown in January anyway.
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I still think there was an opportunity to have some kind of campaign anyway, for business and individuals to donate old laptops etc they weren't using / had upgraded over the pandemic. Didn't necessarily have to be government bought everyone a new tablet.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,615
Deleted member 5849 said:
I still think there was an opportunity to have some kind of campaign anyway, for business and individuals to donate old laptops etc they weren't using / had upgraded over the pandemic. Didn't necessarily have to be government bought everyone a new tablet.
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Exactly. It’s outrageous that after all this time we still don’t have everyone covered.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,616
Grendel said:
Most will be going in other than certain office workers. All manufacturing is now 100% functioning. Supermarkets, shops, transport, take away hospitality and any offices that require office presence including accountants. Also oddly if people are working from home they are not supposed to be supervising children all day but actually working
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Just nonsense about manufacturing being back 100%
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,617
Ian1779 said:
What is she talking about? Utterly clueless
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Sky Blue Pete said:
Just nonsense about manufacturing being back 100%
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t's what grenners does
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,618
The problem with the closing schools argument is its full of caveats...its based on all the sensible and obvious things that SHOULD have been put in place, but haven't and won't be any time soon.

So the current bleak reality is closing schools in Jan will result in the most deprived becoming more so, the most vulnerable becoming more so, the most hungry becoming more so, the abused and neglected becoming more so all while millions of families are forced further into financial crisis due to the inability to earn.

Whilst it affects everyone, it massively and disproportionately hits those who are barely keeping their heads above as it is.

......it's a shite state of affairs Tommy, and all the fresh air in the world wont make any fucking difference
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,619
Is international travel banned too aside from emergencies?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,620
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
The problem with the closing schools argument is its full of caveats...its based on all the sensible and obvious things that SHOULD have been put in place, but haven't and won't be any time soon.

So the current bleak reality is closing schools in Jan will result in the most deprived becoming more so, the most vulnerable becoming more so, the most hungry becoming more so, the abused and neglected becoming more so all while millions of families are forced further into financial crisis due to the inability to earn.

Whilst it affects everyone, it massively and disproportionately hits those who are barely keeping their heads above as it is.

......it's a shite state of affairs Tommy, and all the fresh air in the world wont make any fucking difference
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The thing that pissed me off the most this morning was after marr had used the head teachers comments saying the plans were impossible he comes back with most head teachers want the best for their children. Wtf I think all of them do and would know better than him what is and isn’t possible. Just a complete wanker
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,621
Sky Blue Pete said:
The thing that pissed me off the most this morning was after marr had used the head teachers comments saying the plans were impossible he comes back with most head teachers want the best for their children. Wtf I think all of them do and would know better than him what is and isn’t possible. Just a complete wanker
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Maybe it's telling something that the current teachers on this thread don't think we should be in despite very much wanting to be.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,622
Nick said:
Is international travel banned too aside from emergencies?
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Who knows what the fuck is going on?
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,623
clint van damme said:
Who knows what the fuck is going on?
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We're quickly being banned from multiple countries because of the new strain. Bit rude, we allowed people into the country freely until June didn't we when it first arrived.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,624
Definitely no brain involved
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,625
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
The problem with the closing schools argument is its full of caveats...its based on all the sensible and obvious things that SHOULD have been put in place, but haven't and won't be any time soon.

So the current bleak reality is closing schools in Jan will result in the most deprived becoming more so, the most vulnerable becoming more so, the most hungry becoming more so, the abused and neglected becoming more so all while millions of families are forced further into financial crisis due to the inability to earn.

Whilst it affects everyone, it massively and disproportionately hits those who are barely keeping their heads above as it is.

......it's a shite state of affairs Tommy, and all the fresh air in the world wont make any fucking difference
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You are absolutely spot on - what I would say that from a safeguarding/welfare point of view that a lot of schools that have cohorts like this (mine is one of them) are putting on additional things that they can do to mitigate this. We’ve been buying food parcels for vulnerable and FSM kids to take home over the break for example and even for kids to take home at the weekends in some cases. Daily welfare calls and home visits to kids at risk that started in the first lockdown, continued through summer and all term time holidays - and will continue during Xmas break and beyond.

That doesn’t mean that happens everywhere of course - and there will still kids that slip throug the net. These actions are done at local level by schools and their safeguarding, with no guidance, support or funding from government at all. Some schools will face budget deficits this year and next because they have chosen to do this from existing budgets because it’s totally the right thing to do.

Totally inept leadership from the government on this as you’ve said.... and absolutely no surprise to anyone that has a brain.
 
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