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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,521
robbiekeane said:
Couldn’t agree more. It’s a threat though and they shouldn’t be going to school. My mum is a teacher and got covid from school and the kids are in “bubbles” of 60 which is stupid for fuck sake.

How do they expect to take any of the restrictions seriously when there are millions of kids mixing with each other and then going home?
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Yes the bubbles do not represent anything resembling what was trailed through the summer to persuade parents there kids were Safe.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,522
SBT said:
Took me a fair bit longer than that, maybe you’re just more of a Twitter pro than me. I would never have even thought to scroll through some random’s feed.

Still don’t get what point it proves, mind. Wow, here are some pictures of someone enjoying themselves where restrictions have been lifted, what a c**t, I’m outraged.
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Now restrictions are in place they are all fucking off elsewhere
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,523
David O'Day said:
The train companies have already dealt with that. They do sell oly a limited number of tickets but people can buy off peak returns etc right up to the point of departure and use these and the sale of these tickets is not in their control.
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It should be in somebody's control, if only for reasons of public safety, even more so during a pandemic.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,524
Nick said:
Now restrictions are in place they are all fucking off elsewhere
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Well I already said I don’t think that’s smart, but what does it have to do with them enjoying themselves when restrictions didn’t exist? Your bitterness about London is on Alan Partridge levels, it’s hilarious.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,525
Johnnythespider said:
It should be in somebody's control, if only for reasons of public safety, even more so during a pandemic.
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What can you do about returns that have no specified trains attached to them? You can't stop selling them as some people will need to make emergency essential travel.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,526
Johnnythespider said:
It should be in somebody's control, if only for reasons of public safety, even more so during a pandemic.
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Sounds like they’re putting British Transport Police at stations now.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,527
SBT said:
Well I already said I don’t think that’s smart, but what does it have to do with them enjoying themselves when restrictions didn’t exist? Your bitterness about London is on Alan Partridge levels, it’s hilarious.
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Because they have been living the dream with lower restrictions while elsewhere has been locked down. Now they all want to fuck off elsewhere rather than stay put.

They should have just cancelled all trains.

It's hardly bitter against London, I said at the time the tier 2 stuff was madness.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,528
Cancel all trains? Fuck sake, so people with a legitimate reason to travel can't?

The only action that would of worked is not fucking giving people an 8 hour window to travel. Bring the statutory instrument into place and then announce. That way it becomes illegal to travel and you can stop them.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,529
robbiekeane said:
Couldn’t agree more. It’s a threat though and they shouldn’t be going to school. My mum is a teacher and got covid from school and the kids are in “bubbles” of 60 which is stupid for fuck sake.

How do they expect to take any of the restrictions seriously when there are millions of kids mixing with each other and then going home?
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In a secondary school those bubbles go up to 150-200. Let’s be honest, they aren’t bubbles, they’re hundreds of households mixing before you even factor in siblings in different year groups.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,530
Nick said:
Because they have been living the dream with lower restrictions while elsewhere has been locked down. Now they all want to fuck off elsewhere rather than stay put.

They should have just cancelled all trains.

It's hardly bitter against London, I said at the time the tier 2 stuff was madness.
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Complains incessantly about Londoners “living the dream” and spends Saturday night scrolling through random Twitter feeds looking for examples of them living life under Tier 2, but is definitely not bitter at all, wonderful stuff
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,531
Schools are obviously the issue. It was nowhere to be seen over summer and as soon as schools went back things skyrocketed. They’re keeping kids in schools because they’re encouraging parents to go to work. If they’re serious about sending cases down schools should lock down like the rest of the country.
 
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Great_Expectations

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,532
The London thing is a strange one; of course they all want to get home to loved ones, and it isn’t their fault the rules changed so late in the day with little notice, it’s a question of personal responsibility again; go home to see family/friends at Christmas and potentially spread the virus further, or have a lonely (and potentially sad) Christmas but reduce the chance of spreading it. There’s definitely a resentment from the rest of the country based on things I’ve read so far.

Going from Tier 2 to Tier 4, and therefore skipping 3 is crazy, and of course will (justifiably) raise questions about their original Tier allocation.

Coupled with the perception Londoners have been living it up the last few weeks (not helped by the media) in Tier 2 while the majority of other areas haven’t, and it doesn’t mitigate the London centric idea that it’s treated differently to the rest of the country.

I don’t say that with any particular hostility, I enjoyed my time in London and I have a best friend and cousins stuck there but this is another episode that will leave a bitter taste for many.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,533
SBT said:
Complains incessantly about Londoners “living the dream” and spends Saturday night scrolling through random Twitter feeds looking for examples of them living life under Tier 2, but is definitely not bitter at all, wonderful stuff
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Hardly spent the night, I clicked a link somebody posted and spent seconds scrolling down.

It's not really complicated or time consuming is it?
 

Great_Expectations

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,534
SBT said:
Well I already said I don’t think that’s smart, but what does it have to do with them enjoying themselves when restrictions didn’t exist? Your bitterness about London is on Alan Partridge levels, it’s hilarious.
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Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,535
Liquid Gold said:
Schools are obviously the issue. It was nowhere to be seen over summer and as soon as schools went back things skyrocketed. They’re keeping kids in schools because they’re encouraging parents to go to work. If they’re serious about sending cases down schools should lock down like the rest of the country.
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If parents can’t go to work they can supervise at home and make sure their kids do the fecking work
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,536
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If parents can’t go to work they can supervise at home and make sure their kids do the fecking work
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So parents can give up working to home school?

Get me to work!!!!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,537
Nick said:
So parents can give up working to home school?
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No, just make sure they’re joining lessons and doing the work set. As in, the stuff their teachers have spent hours making beforehand.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,538
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In a secondary school those bubbles go up to 150-200. Let’s be honest, they aren’t bubbles, they’re hundreds of households mixing before you even factor in siblings in different year groups.
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Or schools entirely.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,539
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No, just make sure they’re joining lessons and doing the work set. As in, the stuff their teachers have spent hours making beforehand.
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How do parents then earn any money?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,540
Great_Expectations said:
The London thing is a strange one; of course they all want to get home to loved ones, and it isn’t their fault the rules changed so late in the day with little notice, it’s a question of personal responsibility again; go home to see family/friends at Christmas and potentially spread the virus further, or have a lonely (and potentially sad) Christmas but reduce the chance of spreading it. There’s definitely a resentment from the rest of the country based on things I’ve read so far.

Going from Tier 2 to Tier 4, and therefore skipping 3 is crazy, and of course will (justifiably) raise questions about their original Tier allocation.

Coupled with the perception Londoners have been living it up the last few weeks (not helped by the media) in Tier 2 while the majority of other areas haven’t, and it doesn’t mitigate the London centric idea that it’s treated differently to the rest of the country.

I don’t say that with any particular hostility, I enjoyed my time in London and I have a best friend and cousins stuck there but this is another episode that will leave a bitter taste for many.
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Alongside age,class, regional disparity has been introduced and created that I think.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,541
Grendel said:
How do parents then earn any money?
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I guess like the first lockdown, it's essential workers only. In theory you also do shorter, sharper lockdowns to depress rates, so it helps the economy either. Better the clean break to then fix, then the mangled slow Chinese water torture of economic death.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,542
Great_Expectations said:
Going from Tier 2 to Tier 4, and therefore skipping 3 is crazy, and of course will (justifiably) raise questions about their original Tier allocation.

Coupled with the perception Londoners have been living it up the last few weeks (not helped by the media) in Tier 2 while the majority of other areas haven’t, and it doesn’t mitigate the London centric idea that it’s treated differently to the rest of the country.
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I must have imagined London going up to Tier 3 last week then!

This idea that London has been “living the dream” recently is the usual Middle England cliche bullshit propagated by people who haven’t stepped foot here in months if not years. (If what happened yesterday is the government’s idea of preferential treatment for London then I’d hate to see what a fair approach would look like). To pretend that other parts of the country wouldn’t act in the exact same way is just weird.

Most of all, it achieves nothing to waste your time resenting other parts of the country for having an easier time of it than you. Even worse if people are actively pleased to see other areas getting tougher restrictions, but some people just like to be aggrieved I guess.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,543
Town very busy

So funny listening to a lady say she only came in to go to the entertainer and they are fuckin shut on Sunday so she’s really pissed off

Spirit of Christmas!! Lol
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,544
Deleted member 5849 said:
I guess like the first lockdown, it's essential workers only. In theory you also do shorter, sharper lockdowns to depress rates, so it helps the economy either. Better the clean break to then fix, then the mangled slow Chinese water torture of economic death.
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Its not essential workers though it’s essential workers in the business

In fact what if they are both teachers?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,545
Sky Blue Pete said:
Town very busy
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I’m sure it is
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,546
SBT said:
I must have imagined London going up to Tier 3 last week then!

This idea that London has been “living the dream” recently is the usual Middle England cliche bullshit propagated by people who haven’t stepped foot here in months if not years. (If what happened yesterday is the government’s idea of preferential treatment for London then I’d hate to see what a fair approach would look like). To pretend that other parts of the country wouldn’t act in the exact same way is just weird.

Most of all, it achieves nothing to waste your time resenting other parts of the country for having an easier time of it than you. Even worse if people are actively pleased to see other areas getting tougher restrictions, but some people just like to be aggrieved I guess.
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The other guy on here from London seems to take a far different view though?
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,547
Grendel said:
The other guy on here from London seems to take a far different view though?
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How so?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,548
SBT said:
How so?
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“Londoners have ignored everything “
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,549
Grendel said:
How do parents then earn any money?
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Most will not be going in. If both really must still go in the emergency provision will be there as it was last time.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,550
Nick said:
So parents can give up working to home school?

Get me to work!!!!
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Read what I actually said muppet
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,551
Grendel said:
“Londoners have ignored everything “
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Is this problem unique to London?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,552
SBT said:
I must have imagined London going up to Tier 3 last week then!

This idea that London has been “living the dream” recently is the usual Middle England cliche bullshit propagated by people who haven’t stepped foot here in months if not years. (If what happened yesterday is the government’s idea of preferential treatment for London then I’d hate to see what a fair approach would look like). To pretend that other parts of the country wouldn’t act in the exact same way is just weird.

Most of all, it achieves nothing to waste your time resenting other parts of the country for having an easier time of it than you. Even worse if people are actively pleased to see other areas getting tougher restrictions, but some people just like to be aggrieved I guess.
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Is it bullshit? I must have imagined those fans in the arena watching boxing and tens of thousands scrambling to do Christmas Shopping?

It should never have been Tier 2, hence they are now banging on about this new strain that is the reason for the outbreak and obviously nothing to do with this:



Then all trying to jump when they are told to stay in...
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,553
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Read what I actually said muppet
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tbf, I think he was making a joke.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,554
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Most will not be going in. If both really must still go in the emergency provision will be there as it was last time.
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Most will be going in other than certain office workers. All manufacturing is now 100% functioning. Supermarkets, shops, transport, take away hospitality and any offices that require office presence including accountants. Also oddly if people are working from home they are not supposed to be supervising children all day but actually working
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #37,555
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Read what I actually said muppet
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I know all about it, I was working all day and then being a teacher in the evening and weekends...

Hence I would rather have been at work 24/7 than having to be a teacher too.
 
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