fernandopartridge
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Not in Coventry, I live in Derbyshire
Not in Coventry, I live in DerbyshireLikely. Where’s that?
Possibly, the lack of transparency over decision making annoys me, what are the criteria and how are they weighted!?
Tbh though the national average has gone up by a third in a week or two and is far too high, so being below it isn't exactly fantastic. However, the rules should be applied consistently.The local decision in Coventry according to DHSC is based on a perceived increase in cases which is at best very small. The cases in coventry according to them are below the national average and hospital and icu usage is also below the national average.
Anything over 1 in 10000 isn’t good and has been treated as a problem all alongTbh though the national average has gone up by a third in a week or two and is far too high, so being below it isn't exactly fantastic. However, the rules should be applied consistently.
Tbh though the national average has gone up by a third in a week or two and is far too high, so being below it isn't exactly fantastic. However, the rules should be applied consistently.
Anything over 1 in 10000 isn’t good and has been treated as a problem all along
Oh I know that is where we are now at but that’s only cause in the north it got to 700 and Wales is currently 590 or so. So it’s all relative. Anything over 100 per 100000 since mass testing was available has been seen as bad. Friend works in public healthNot true figures of 150 to 160 per 100k were treated as great work just 2 weeks ago.
Oh I know that is where we are now at but that’s only cause in the north it got to 700 and Wales is currently 590 or so. So it’s all relative. Anything over 100 per 100000 since mass testing was available has been seen as bad. Friend works in public health
Yeah, it strikes me as obvious we should be having some tight restrictions just after Christmas - stop a spread as people go back wherever afterwards, if nothing else!That really would be a Pandora’s box wouldnt it? Don’t get me wrong I’d hate to be making the decisions and it really is a shit storm across Europe. However it does seem other governments see the facts and react where as we take a good look at them, smell them, turn them over and over and then eventually when left without a choice, we make a decision
My local area 113 cases per 100k, it does look illogical.
The corona virus site allows you to look up by NHS Trust now. Quite hard to understand why we're still in Tier 3
Yep that’s very wiseTo some people yes but as I said 2 weeks ago 150 to 160 was seen as the bench mark so it's the lack of consistency that is the issue.
You set a target, people reach that target and the you ignore said target.
When you keep a sector of the economy closed that isn't the vector of transmission that people think it is closed you are likely to create situations that are more dangerous as people go "off grid" or abuse the xmas rules.
So from a purely health reasoning you can say you want below 100 per 100k but in reality you have to have it higher or you risk fatigue.
Yep that’s very wise
That’s a really good point tooYeah, it strikes me as obvious we should be having some tight restrictions just after Christmas - stop a spread as people go back wherever afterwards, if nothing else!
I suppose I can kind of see why you might want to hold off on that announcement, so people don't go mental over Christmas itself, thinking it's their last hurrah
So neither of us have to go into work until January now. In effect, we're isolating. Not seeing any family over Christmas, and the irony is that that period of isolation would end, just after Christmas rules end, and we revert to the no socialising with people indoors or out message..
It's the closest I've got to thinking sod the rules - it's far 'safer' to miss Christmas and meet afterwards, than follow government guidelines!
I get the feeling they're trying to reserve hospital capacity around GM as Oldham and Rochdale are both back on the way up.Because they fucked up by treating London as one mass entity which allowed boroughs in the east with dangerously high case rates to be on the same level as other more western boroughs with much lower case rates.
This is another lack consistency as well as the have told Greater Manchester you need to stay in tier 3 as 1 or 2 areas have slightly higher cases.
And this is the issue, constantly changing the parameters will make more people ignore the rules.
Going to be more or a less a total lockdown here over Christmas now.Can see them tightening the Christmas rules
And inGoing to be more or a less a total lockdown here over Christmas now.
And in
Spain
Germany
France
Netherlands
Portugal
Ireland
Nothern Ireland
Wales
Scotland
In fact everywhere more or less than England. Mmmmmmm
We are great though so the virus knows that
I know mate it's never ending. Hopefully the vaccines do their job and we can get back to some sort of normality.I genuinely can't see life ever being back as it was. It's fucking madness.
There's other countries that are already pretty much back to normal so it will happen at some point.I genuinely can't see life ever being back as it was. It's fucking madness.
To be fair Italy replicated the tier system, which led to a huge increase in deathsAnd in
Spain
Germany
France
Netherlands
Portugal
Ireland
Nothern Ireland
Wales
Scotland
In fact everywhere more or less than England. Mmmmmmm
We are great though so the virus knows that
Sorry my post wasn’t clear it was about making plans now for after Xmas unlike usCOVID-19: What are the Christmas coronavirus rules in other European countries?
Nations across the continent are implementing special rules for the festive season.news.sky.com
Not quite true though. Most of those countries are relaxing restrictions the few days over Christmas.
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Yep still errors in all countriesTo be fair Italy replicated the tier system, which led to a huge increase in deaths
Always does revert though - these things aren't uncommon(!)I genuinely can't see life ever being back as it was. It's fucking madness.
As said before a big concern of mine is what things could become normalised despite being no longer necessary. Will we forever be scared to shake someone’s hand? Sit near randoms on the bus? Clear our throats in public?Always does revert though - these things aren't uncommon(!)
More from Nick Gibbs:
All primary kids will go back, just Y11 and 13 for the first 5 days in secondary.
Agency staff and volunteers will be used to carry out the mass testing of students.
Remote learning for the other year groups.
It’s ok because we announced it on Dec 17th and schools go back on Jan 4th.
My other half’s mum works as a TA. She and others have been asked to volunteer to do the testing. Also love that now I’m being asked to again rip up the curriculum with no notice but also still deliver teaching in school for the ones who are there.
New job please
Shaking hands is part of the culture here. Normally every time you meet someone you shake hands - considered rude not to. Even if I say good morning to my neighbour I'm expected to shake hands. Walk into a room with 20 people and you're expected to shake hands with everyone.As said before a big concern of mine is what things could become normalised despite being no longer necessary. Will we forever be scared to shake someone’s hand? Sit near randoms on the bus? Clear our throats in public?
That test will be performed once, kids will not accept having a swap shoved up their nose again. It's a stupid idea from a stupid government.
Shaking hands is part of the culture here. Normally every time you meet someone you shake hands - considered rude not to. Even if I say good morning to my neighbour I'm expected to shake hands. Walk into a room with 20 people and you're expected to shake hands with everyone.
Haven't shaken a hand or seen a handshake since about April.
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