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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,031
Grendel said:
The party activist machine don’t win elections. Party members in both parties tend to be dingbats who have no idea how to win elections.
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Not unfair. That being said, both parties are pandering more and more to their members recently. Tories have got away with it more, so far... but what happens if and when they both go full mental?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,032
Grendel said:
The party activist machine don’t win elections. Party members in both parties tend to be dingbats who have no idea how to win elections.
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You have a point about Labour members setting an agenda completely out of touch with the Labour voting demographic on Brexit.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,033
so what's this latest missive from our leader?
Bubble extended to three house holds but are tiers still going to be in place so tier 3 pubs will still be shut over Christmas?
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,034
clint van damme said:
so what's this latest missive from our leader?
Bubble extended to three house holds but are tiers still going to be in place so tier 3 pubs will still be shut over Christmas?
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,035
clint van damme said:
so what's this latest missive from our leader?
Bubble extended to three house holds but are tiers still going to be in place so tier 3 pubs will still be shut over Christmas?
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Yeah, no changes to Xmas rules previously stated (for England). Just stronger guidance. Basically not illegal to meet but pretty much advising against mass/multiple gatherings.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,036
CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, no changes to Xmas rules previously stated (for England). Just stronger guidance. Basically not illegal to meet but pretty much advising against mass/multiple gatherings.
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Basically, you can do it but please please don't
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,037
David O'Day said:
Basically, you can do it but please please don't
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Yep
 
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xcraigx

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,038
25,161 cases today. 612 deaths. Only includes about 500 Welsh cases as their new reporting system isn't working properly. There's potentially been an under report of around 2,000 cases due to those issues since the weekend.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,039
xcraigx said:
25,161 cases today. 612 deaths. Only includes about 500 Welsh cases as their new reporting system isn't working properly. There's potentially been an under report of around 2,000 cases due to those issues since the weekend.
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lots of these new cases do seem to be in the south east which is really, really in trouble.
 
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xcraigx

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,040
David O'Day said:
lots of these new cases do seem to be in the south east which is really, really in trouble.
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Yes, doesn't look good down there and Wales Public Health have announed they will be reporting a backlog of around 11,000 cases tomorrow so I reckon South Wales is in massive trouble too.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,041
xcraigx said:
Yes, doesn't look good down there and Wales Public Health have announed they will be reporting a backlog of around 11,000 cases tomorrow so I reckon South Wales is in massive trouble too.
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That's over a week though but yes they aren't in a good way. Their issues seem to be around the RCT area again
 
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xcraigx

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,042
David O'Day said:
That's over a week though but yes they aren't in a good way. Their issues seem to be around the RCT area again
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5 days I think, the last set of figures inputted with no issue were last Friday's given on Saturday. It looks like their true case rate is between 2500 and 3000 a day which for a country their size is pretty grim and this off the back of high figures for months on end on areas such as Merthyr. Certainly puts paid to anyone thinking herd immunity might have worked.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,043
xcraigx said:
5 days I think, the last set of figures inputted with no issue were last Friday's given on Saturday. It looks like their true case rate is between 2500 and 3000 a day which for a country their size is pretty grim and this off the back of high figures for months on end on areas such as Merthyr. Certainly puts paid to anyone thinking herd immunity might have worked.
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It's grim but it's not 2500 to 3000 a day if it is 11,000 cases
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,044
How can we open everything up for 5 days with numbers like that? It really is madness
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,045
Sky Blue Pete said:
How can we open everything up for 5 days with numbers like that? It really is madness
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Not really opening everything up though Pete.... 35m people cant even go to their local boozer or restaurant ! They just won’t be able to fine you if you choose to see a family member/mate outside your bubble.

I might be wrong but I get the impression most wont risk mixing with elderly relatives, or if they do will be extremely cautious.

There is no doubt numbers will increase though (theyre already are on the rise as mentioned above)
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,046
Had to send home an entire year group (240) today as we’ve had another cluster of cases that are all connected to a string of single cases over the last 3 or so weeks. Impossible to know how it spreads when they rarely show symptoms.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,047
Remember when everyone laughed about BAT producing a vaccine?

British American Tobacco wins approval to test Covid vaccine on humans

Treatment grown on tobacco plants gets US backing for clinical study
www.theguardian.com
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,048
Sky Blue Pete said:
How can we open everything up for 5 days with numbers like that? It really is madness
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Its ok though, the government are now using the 'common sense' / 'personal responsibility' rhetoric again. If the numbers go up, the government will blame the public for not using their common sense or displaying personal responsibility. Boris's hands are clean


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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,049
stupot07 said:
Its ok though, the government are now using the 'common sense' / 'personal responsibility' rhetoric again. If the numbers go up, the government will blame the public for not using their common sense or displaying personal responsibility. Boris's hands are clean


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New strain might kick in again
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,050
stupot07 said:
Its ok though, the government are now using the 'common sense' / 'personal responsibility' rhetoric again. If the numbers go up, the government will blame the public for not using their common sense or displaying personal responsibility. Boris's hands are clean


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Abdication of responsibility for me
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,051
Sky Blue Pete said:
Abdication of responsibility for me
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They were the ones who announced a 3 household break at Christmas weeks before, they've legislated for it
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,052
Stupid free kick again Hamer
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,053
Santa Claus has resigned in the French town of Blois because of repeated insults from passers-by. Locals apparently got angry that for hygiene reasons he couldn’t take the children in his arms or give them treats.
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Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,054
Sky Blue Pete said:
How can we open everything up for 5 days with numbers like that? It really is madness
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We aren’t opening up anything
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,055
Grendel said:
We aren’t opening up anything
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not even your presents?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,056
Two students fined 10 grand each for the crime of having a party

Derby students fined £10k for Covid breach parties

Police say they found up to 70 people at one gathering and more than 30 at another party.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,057
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Two students fined 10 grand each for the crime of having a party

Derby students fined £10k for Covid breach parties

Police say they found up to 70 people at one gathering and more than 30 at another party.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Just utterly illogical isn't it? You can't have a party but you can live alongside many others in dormitories.

I'd hope any income gained from people being fined is used to actually support others to isolate when they are required to, but that doesn't happen.
 
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TM8792

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,058
Realistically how is a student expected to pay a £10k fine? I'm assuming there will be the option to pay it in instalments, but even so, having something like this hanging over your head when you're trying to find your way in life must be very daunting. Ridiculous.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,059
fernandopartridge said:
Just utterly illogical isn't it? You can't have a party but you can live alongside many others in dormitories.

I'd hope any income gained from people being fined is used to actually support others to isolate when they are required to, but that doesn't happen.
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How on Earth are they expected to be able to pay?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,060
Grendel said:
We aren’t opening up anything
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All non essential shops, household mixing to name just two. What do you mean?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,061
Sky Blue Pete said:
All non essential shops, household mixing to name just two. What do you mean?
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Non essential shops are open anyway and people will ignore laws ok household mining
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,062
Grendel said:
Non essential shops are open anyway and people will ignore laws ok household mining
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If some fucker digs a hole in my living room, I'll be having a word.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,063
David O'Day said:
The murdoch press deffo are, they change only when the are 100% sure of a winner
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I don’t know why it’s easier to believe that a paper that sells around 1m copies somehow controls the entire populations thinking, rather than the idea that most of our fellow countrymen hold views similar to most newspapers.

fernandopartridge said:
Just utterly illogical isn't it? You can't have a party but you can live alongside many others in dormitories.

I'd hope any income gained from people being fined is used to actually support others to isolate when they are required to, but that doesn't happen.
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Not really illogical is it? Student “dormitories” are mostly self contained flats and can me managed. Parties with 30 people in a flat getting drunk is obviously more is a risk.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,064
Are we in Tier 2 yet?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #37,065
Nick said:
Are we in Tier 2 yet?
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No
 
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