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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #36,996
shmmeee said:
Yes 100%.

The press are weather vanes not kingmakers.
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The murdoch press deffo are, they change only when the are 100% sure of a winner
 

speedie87

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #36,997
xcraigx said:
What's gone wrong in Germany? Over 800 dead today. 333 was their highest during the first wave and they had less than 800 total throughout June, July, August, September and October combined.
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I Reckon The biggest factor is just the change in weather.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #36,998
chiefdave said:
If there's a case in a school this week doesn't that mean you then have to isolate over Christmas?

Seems a ridiculous thing to pick an argument over. Even if you're all for keeping schools open no matter what we're talking about four days, does that really make a huge difference to kids education given what's been happening the last 12 months?
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4/5 days where they'll do fuck all anyway.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #36,999
Something of an irony

COVID-19: Staff at mass vaccination centre in Cardiff test positive for coronavirus

It comes as new testing sites are being opened around the city due to a surge in cases in the Welsh capital.
news.sky.com
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,000
Deleted member 5849 said:
Something of an irony

COVID-19: Staff at mass vaccination centre in Cardiff test positive for coronavirus

It comes as new testing sites are being opened around the city due to a surge in cases in the Welsh capital.
news.sky.com
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Got into my granddaughter's school via a nurse doing the flu a couple of months ago.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,001
wingy said:
Got into my granddaughter's school via a nurse doing the flu a couple of months ago.
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Ha.

Does surprise me that the people doing the vaccinations aren't the first people to get it, I must admit. Imagine catching it while being vaccinated against it, that'd be Greek tragedy levels!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,002
wingy said:
Left hander here ,
My work left handed ,eat right handed,play guitar right handed (only one song)
Left footed
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I’m right handed but only write right handed, do everything else left handed. I’d say I’m right footed but my football playing skills would leave you to think I had two left feet. Coincidentally Mrs Skybluetony176 is left handed but does everything bar write right handed. We were made for each other.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,003
skybluetony176 said:
I’m right handed but only write right handed, do everything else left handed. I’d say I’m right footed but my football playing skills would leave you to think I had two left feet. Coincidentally Mrs Skybluetony176 is left handed but does everything bar write right handed. We were made for each other.
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"Everything else left handed" TMI Tony.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,004
Skybluefaz said:
"Everything else left handed" TMI Tony.
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Actually now you mention it I actually do two things right handed. Now that really is TMI.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,005
Deleted member 5849 said:
Ha.

Does surprise me that the people doing the vaccinations aren't the first people to get it, I must admit. Imagine catching it while being vaccinated against it, that'd be Greek tragedy levels!
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I thought they'd been moved to Priority 1 now so they should be, that said it's not instantaneous and the roll out will take ages. Those working at test centres are not NHS staff either
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,006
So we have a curfew, France has a curfew, parts of Germany has a curfew. Austria, Belgium, Spain, Italy, Czech, Slovakia similar versions of a curfew.
So had badly would UK react to a notion of a curfew or is it so unpalatable that it would never be considered?.
Also a bit of context our numbers of new infections have halved as a result
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,007
skybluetony176 said:
I’m right handed but only write right handed, do everything else left handed. I’d say I’m right footed but my football playing skills would leave you to think I had two left feet. Coincidentally Mrs Skybluetony176 is left handed but does everything bar write right handed. We were made for each other.
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I am right handed but everything else left handed, like golf and cricket etc. It's fucking awkward sometimes.

I sometimes do the other stuff left handed as a treat so it feels like it isn't me doing it. Would be better if I had a little beadle hand though.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,008
tisza said:
So we have a curfew, France has a curfew, parts of Germany has a curfew. Austria, Belgium, Spain, Italy, Czech, Slovakia similar versions of a curfew.
So had badly would UK react to a notion of a curfew or is it so unpalatable that it would never be considered?.
Also a bit of context our numbers of new infections have halved as a result
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What time is it? Round here the streets are pretty deserted beyond 7 o'clock. I'm not sure I follow the logic of squeezing the time in which people can use the supermarket for example. I
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,009
fernandopartridge said:
What time is it? Round here the streets are pretty deserted beyond 7 o'clock. I'm not sure I follow the logic of squeezing the time in which people can use the supermarket for example. I
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Yeah i don't think Curfews work. As you said you you just end with more people in the same place at the same time.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,010
fernandopartridge said:
What time is it? Round here the streets are pretty deserted beyond 7 o'clock. I'm not sure I follow the logic of squeezing the time in which people can use the supermarket for example. I
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Everything bar pharmacies and petrol stations have to close by 7. No congestion in shops people just plan their days differently.
Curfew 8pm until 5 am - only exceptions work (inc food delivery) and medical matters. Tbh it's cold enough now that people aren't hanging around anyway. But it's also to stop parties, gatherings in people's houses etc.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,011
David O'Day said:
Yeah i don't think Curfews work. As you said you you just end with more people in the same place at the same time.
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as i said though are our numbers of new infections have halved after about 2 weeks of a curfew starting - seeing the impact over last few days. Deaths still comparatively high though - around 1000 a day in UK population terms.
But will be a slight relaxing for Xmas for gatherings in people's homes but New Years Eve "cancelled".
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,012
The UK govt data is utterly useless, the test and trace system is pathetic. By now there should be a pretty reliable reporting of where people with they virus had been to help people risk assess but still fuck all.
 
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xcraigx

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,013
fernandopartridge said:
The UK govt data is utterly useless, the test and trace system is pathetic. By now there should be a pretty reliable reporting of where people with they virus had been to help people risk assess but still fuck all.
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Contact tracer: 'People threaten us and block our calls'

An NHS Test and Trace worker says many members of the public don't answer or refuse to co-operate.
www.bbc.co.uk

An interesting piece about a test and trace worker. I did think about applying to do it myself but I think I would be sacked off within the hour, assuming I woul be able to get hold of someone to speak to in that time.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,014
Are pubs open during this daft little Christmas Covid break?
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,015
hill83 said:
Are pubs open during this daft little Christmas Covid break?
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I did wonder because the holyhead were booking out their new little outdoor huts but I think that was on the premise we get dropped to tier 2 today
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,016
hill83 said:
Are pubs open during this daft little Christmas Covid break?
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No, not that any pub is seriously going to open for a few days only anyway
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,017
Skybluefaz said:
I did wonder because the holyhead were booking out their new little outdoor huts but I think that was on the premise we get dropped to tier 2 today
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i think if we are in tier 2 the pubs will be open.

I think the xmas rules deal with indoor mixing in private homes. Other rules depend on the tier you are in
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,018
fernandopartridge said:
No, not that any pub is seriously going to open for a few days only anyway
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,019
Skybluefaz said:
I did wonder because the holyhead were booking out their new little outdoor huts but I think that was on the premise we get dropped to tier 2 today
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Fuck sake, if it's outdoors what will the punters do about their toms with no socks combination? Far too chilly.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,020
David O'Day said:
i think if we are in tier 2 the pubs will be open.

I think the xmas rules deal with indoor mixing in private homes. Other rules depend on the tier you are in
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I'd fucking love a proper pint.
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,021
Nick said:
Fuck sake, if it's outdoors what will the punters do about their toms with no socks combination? Far too chilly.
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Probably some equally horrific solution like men's ugg boots or some shit
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,022
Skybluefaz said:
Probably some equally horrific solution like men's ugg boots or some shit
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UGG® Official | Boots, Slippers & Shoes | Free Shipping & Returns

It's always UGG® season. Find the perfect boots, slippers, sneakers, and sandals to complete your look - from statement fluffy platforms to cozy house shoes, we have you covered this spring.
www.ugg.com

Get on 'em
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,023
David O'Day said:

UGG® Official | Boots, Slippers & Shoes | Free Shipping & Returns

It's always UGG® season. Find the perfect boots, slippers, sneakers, and sandals to complete your look - from statement fluffy platforms to cozy house shoes, we have you covered this spring.
www.ugg.com

Get on 'em
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Only 260 quid too. I'll get 2 pairs.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,024
Skybluefaz said:
Only 260 quid too. I'll get 2 pairs.
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I know a quarter of a grand for those war crimes
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,025
Tier review announcement put back to tomorrow.

Someone is kicking off then
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,026
David O'Day said:
Tier review announcement put back to tomorrow.

Someone is kicking off then
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Maybe they have to get it leaked first.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,027
Skybluefaz said:
Maybe they have to get it leaked first.
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Anyone tried the government website? that's were it leaked last time
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,028
David O'Day said:
Tier review announcement put back to tomorrow.

Someone is kicking off then
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I think it was always the review today with announcement to follow.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,029
David O'Day said:
Tier review announcement put back to tomorrow.

Someone is kicking off then
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I was reading yesterday or day before that the review was going to be today, with release of info tomorrow (not sure if they’d always planned to release info in this way though)

Checked the website. Don’t think it’s been updated yet (except London added to T3)
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #37,030
Ian1779 said:
I don’t disagree with a lot of what you are saying here but a free points to add.

Starmer may be trying to entice that soft-Tory vote which he will definitely need if he was to get a majority, but at what cost? Disaffect the people like BAME voters, the young, those that can’t get on the property ladder by being utterly absent in fighting for what they want?
These people make up a huge party of the party activist machine.

So far Starmer has suggested he wants to row back on half of his pledges and indicated he has little interest in things like UBI for example. Ambivalent about really pressing issues during the Cov-ID pandemic (keeping school safe, protection for renters)

Centrism as you call it was responsible for pushing the PV agenda which ended up with Labour getting a beating - and now we put our trust in this going forward?

The ‘far left’ agenda would have been far more likely to have honoured the vote, and savedus quite the hammering (although I accept the toxicity of Corbyn’s image would have still resulted in defeat, even though it is utterly unfair)

I joined the party because it had an identity.... I’m struggling to see it now.
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The party activist machine don’t win elections. Party members in both parties tend to be dingbats who have no idea how to win elections.
 
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