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Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,891
This show is too good not to be on terrestrial TV.

 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,892
wingy said:
Notice the question asked as to which other countries have this variant was avoided.
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This isn't the first new variant
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,893
David O'Day said:
This isn't the first new variant
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No but this question was asked and sidestepped.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,894
How are 1000 cases of this Variant spreading faster than the other (s) when daily totals are running around 20k.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,895
wingy said:
No but this question was asked and sidestepped.
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Because maybe they don't have the answer yet. Could be many could be none if it mutated in the UK.

wingy said:
How are 1000 cases of this Variant spreading faster than the other (s) when daily totals are running around 20k.
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They aren't, it seems to media spin that it may be responsible for the spread in the south east and London. I'd say it's more likely the spread was because they didn't put them in the right tier and the virus spread amongst the population.
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,896
David O'Day said:
Because maybe they don't have the answer yet. Could be many could be none if it mutated in the UK.



They aren't, it seems to media spin that it may be responsible for the spread in the south east and London. I'd say it's more likely the spread was because they didn't put them in the right tier and the virus spread amongst the population.
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Cases are ramping up massively in schools around there, if a year group is compromised it still goes to 100-200 households who can spread it rapidly. Bubbles were never going to work for that reason. Combine that with the rank deprivation in some of those boroughs and it's no surprise
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,897
David O'Day said:
Because maybe they don't have the answer yet. Could be many could be none if it mutated in the UK.



They aren't, it seems to media spin that it may be responsible for the spread in the south east and London. I'd say it's more likely the spread was because they didn't put them in the right tier and the virus spread amongst the population.
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The govt have probably spun that story.
 
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xcraigx

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,898
wingy said:
How are 1000 cases of this Variant spreading faster than the other (s) when daily totals are running around 20k.
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They are talking percentage growth rather than number growth.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,899
Two pubs so far around here have announced that regardless of which tier we're going in, they won't be open again in 2020. One because its unviable and another who have said they don't want to be responsible for any rise in cases.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,900
28 year old man jailed for the crime of trying to see his other half

Covid: Man jailed for Scotland-Isle of Man water scooter crossing - BBC News
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,901
Brighton Sky Blue said:
28 year old man jailed for the crime of trying to see his other half

Covid: Man jailed for Scotland-Isle of Man water scooter crossing - BBC News
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Sounds very James bondish, the Lady loves Milk Tray

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,902
wingy said:
Sounds very James bondish, the Lady loves Milk Tray

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He seemed more very desperate than a criminal
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,903
I reckon we're in for a double of treble peak second wave, with the next one being a big un.

 
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wingy

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,904
If only someone said lockdown in October to coordinate the school holidays , expanding them into the bargain.
 
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xcraigx

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,905
wingy said:
If only someone said lockdown in October to coordinate the school holidays , expanding them into the bargain.
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Wouldn't that have been similar to what Wales did? Their figures are attrocious and might hint at what's to come for us in the next couple of weeks. I think the problem we have is our idea of lockdown is nothing of the sort. Poundland, Home Bargains, B&M - All essential and continuted to trade during lockdown for example. One of my local retail parks was heaving throughout the lockdown because half of the shops were still deemed essential enough to stay open. It felt like a never ending bank holiday weekend.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,906
fernandopartridge said:
I reckon we're in for a double of treble peak second wave, with the next one being a big un.

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Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there

Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months

ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case numbers a bit more but likely only delayed things for a bit (like Wales circuit break proved). In an ideal world I’d have been tempted to shift the school year a bit ie increase schools hols over winter but extend term over summer - appreciate easier said than done though !
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,907
CCFCSteve said:
Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there

Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months

ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case numbers a bit more but likely only delayed things for a bit (like Wales circuit break proved). In an ideal world I’d have been tempted to shift the school year a bit ie increase schools hols over winter but extend term over summer - appreciate easier said than done though !
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My view was that if schools must be in, then extend the school day rather than change the school year. Get kids in for an extra hour a day and you don't need as many days in the calendar to begin with.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,908
CCFCSteve said:
Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there

Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months

ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case numbers a bit more but likely only delayed things for a bit (like Wales circuit break proved). In an ideal world I’d have been tempted to shift the school year a bit ie increase schools hols over winter but extend term over summer - appreciate easier said than done though !
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Yes Indeed ,get in front and plan it in.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,909
Brighton Sky Blue said:
My view was that if schools must be in, then extend the school day rather than change the school year. Get kids in for an extra hour a day and you don't need as many days in the calendar to begin with.
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Novel thinking !!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,910
wingy said:
Novel thinking !!
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Private schools have overall had the same contact time but been able to have longer half term breaks, longer Christmas holiday etc. I don't think a longer day would have had much union opposition, not least because it would also give more holiday time.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,911
fernandopartridge said:
I reckon we're in for a double of treble peak second wave, with the next one being a big un.

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I agree, esp when Xmas and new Year happen and the really cold weather settles in.
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,912
fernandopartridge said:
Two pubs so far around here have announced that regardless of which tier we're going in, they won't be open again in 2020. One because its unviable and another who have said they don't want to be responsible for any rise in cases.
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I hear the Devon is doing the same.

Feel for the Old Boys who go in for a Christmas drink.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,913
CCFCSteve said:
Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there

Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months

ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case numbers a bit more but likely only delayed things for a bit (like Wales circuit break proved). In an ideal world I’d have been tempted to shift the school year a bit ie increase schools hols over winter but extend term over summer - appreciate easier said than done though !
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Estimated 100k per day at peak
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,914
CCFCSteve said:
Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there

Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months

ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case numbers a bit more but likely only delayed things for a bit (like Wales circuit break proved). In an ideal world I’d have been tempted to shift the school year a bit ie increase schools hols over winter but extend term over summer - appreciate easier said than done though !
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I know that. It isn't really the point though, the numbers to look at to compare waves are numbers hospitalised really
 
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derbyskyblue

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,915
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Too much time on here can't be good
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You've also got the beach and a nice walk down the prom prom prom...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,916
derbyskyblue said:
You've also got the beack and a nice walk down the prom prom prom...
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Don’t live there anymore. If I did I’m sure my stress levels would be halved
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,917
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Don’t live there anymore. If I did I’m sure my stress levels would be halved
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Get yourself down Jephson Gardens/St Nicholas park.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 15, 2020
  • #36,918
fernandopartridge said:
I know that. It isn't really the point though, the numbers to look at to compare waves are numbers hospitalised really
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Sorry, agreed, the hospitalisations are a decent comparison/comparable.

ps rumours that Christmas rules could change. Not sure if I agree with that or not. I’d prefer to arm people with all the relevant info and allow them to make considered choices (as a lot will do anyway) but I guess some will just hear ‘I can mix with everyone for 5 days’
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 15, 2020
  • #36,919
Can see them tightening the Christmas rules
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 15, 2020
  • #36,920
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Can see them tightening the Christmas rules
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They won't backtrack on that. There would be uproar plus loads would ignore it anyway.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 15, 2020
  • #36,921
Skybluefaz said:
They won't backtrack on that. There would be uproar plus loads would ignore it anyway.
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Yep, government sponsored Dry January here we come
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 15, 2020
  • #36,922
Ian1779 said:
Starmer is too busy giving racists some free airtime on LBC to care about schools and the spreading of Cov-ID.
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Amazed he’s got time to run LBC phone lines and be LOTO.

What a guy!
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 15, 2020
  • #36,923
shmmeee said:
Amazed he’s got time to run LBC phone lines and be LOTO.

What a guy!
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He's better than commie Corbyn will ever be
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 15, 2020
  • #36,924
SkyBlueDom26 said:
He's better than commie Corbyn will ever be
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Dom loves having his tax money robbed by posh boys who speak Latin!
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 15, 2020
  • #36,925
clint van damme said:
Dom loves having his tax money robbed by posh boys who speak Latin!
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Don't you like Kier then?
 
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