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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,821
Skybluefaz said:
I guess it's because Starmer knows that Johnson will steam in with the 'He doesn't care about education! He wants to close schools! The unions blah blah'. Ultimately though, if the situation calls for it, Starmer should change his stance and support school closures.
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If he did that he'd be accused of a U-turn and lacking leadership (which I know coming from the Tories is the pot calling the kettle black but somehow it'll stick more on Starmer than it does to Teflon Boris).
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,822
It is a hell of a dilemma and one I'm glad i don't have to consider. I guess the older a person is the more likely people are to risk it because there's more chance there might not be more Christmases to enjoy with them anyway. People with family in their early 70's may be more willing to make the difficult decision not to see them this year because there's a decent chance they'll have a few more to enjoy with them in the future.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,823
London going into Tier 3, good!

Cases rising and those cunts are sat indoors watching boxing.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,824
Caludon revving up.
 

hill83

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,825
Appreciate all families are different but it’s one day. Won’t be seeing my 90 year old grandad. He said sound no bother and agrees. Done.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,826
hill83 said:
Appreciate all families are different but it’s one day. Won’t be seeing my 90 year old grandad. He said sound no bother and agrees. Done.
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Yeah I'm not seeing my nan but she gets it's for her safety
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,827
Effectively it's been a countrywide lockdown since November but Boris and his pals in London have had a couple of weeks off to get some cash in.
 
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xcraigx

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,828
hill83 said:
Appreciate all families are different but it’s one day. Won’t be seeing my 90 year old grandad. He said sound no bother and agrees. Done.
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That's what I like to hear, everyone's safety is the most important thing. There will be a lot of people wishing they could turn the clock back come January. My grandparents are 90 and 95 and have yet to see my 1 year old Daughter. Due to other circumstances they were unable to meet before lockdown and since then we have been using whatsapp video to keep in touch. Hopefully a few months down the line things will be heading back to normal and they can meet.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,829
I feel so jealous of your families being so reasonable and responsible
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,830
Skybluefaz said:
My brain is doing that thing now where I can't really process the sense in relaxing measures for Christmas if we need to close schools 2 or 3 days before they break up. Yet I can't imagine anything worse than not seeing family at Christmas. It's fucking tough going.
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As mentioned, if my parents were by themselves, and also feeling down and lonely, I'd understand. They would then be in a bubble with meanyway if that were the case, mind.

I'm hoping people will be responsible. It's not what they do among themselves I care about, but afterwards when they come into contact with everybody else.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,831
So if we go to Tier 2.

What's the rules on going to the pub?
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,832
Nick said:
So if we go to Tier 2.

What's the rules on going to the pub?
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Me first
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,833
I'm allowing the in-laws in me garden for one hour.....after that, I release the hounds.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,834
hill83 said:
Me first
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Im already camped out
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,835
Grendel said:
Im already camped out
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Sailor's outfit?
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,836
Nick said:
So if we go to Tier 2.

What's the rules on going to the pub?
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The rules are basically still shite.....you can only go in the boozer with your household/bubble & you've gotta eat a pickled egg minimum.

You can still be under the good old rule of 6 for outside hospitality tho...so you & 5 mates can get pissed in the beer garden/car park provided you all eat a picked egg....or scotch egg I suppose....we're not racist.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,837
Matt hancock says there is nothing to worry about with the new variant of Corona that has been discovered. Vaccine should still work.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,838
Funny how this new variant has been causing the spread in places that have been Tier 2.

Nothing to do with the tens of thousands out Christmas shopping in London.

Almost seems like it's bullshit to disguise their decision to allow it.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,839
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
The rules are basically still shite.....you can only go in the boozer with your household/bubble & you've gotta eat a pickled egg minimum.

You can still be under the good old rule of 6 for outside hospitality tho...so you & 5 mates can get pissed in the beer garden/car park provided you all eat a picked egg....or scotch egg I suppose....we're not racist.
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...although I believe you can also exploit the "business meeting" angle if you have more than 5 mates who still actually bother going the pub.....I don't.....in fact Im glad there is no rule of 8 otherwise it may start to get a bit embarrassing
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,840
Skybluefaz said:
I guess it's because Starmer knows that Johnson will steam in with the 'He doesn't care about education! He wants to close schools! The unions blah blah'. Ultimately though, if the situation calls for it, Starmer should change his stance and support school closures.
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Starmer is too busy giving racists some free airtime on LBC to care about schools and the spreading of Cov-ID.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,841
Ian1779 said:
Starmer is too busy giving racists some free airtime on LBC to care about schools and the spreading of Cov-ID.
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Didn't know he was on with Jezzer
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,842
This is never going to end is it! One thing after another
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,843
SkyBlueDom26 said:
This is never going to end is it! One thing after another
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It can and will end - it just requires decisive and capable leadership which we have seen in other countries.
Keep your chin up
 
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Ian1779

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,844
Skybluefaz said:
Didn't know he was on with Jezzer
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Funny guy....

He was on with Nick ‘Gammon’ Ferrari. To be fair to Starmer he had no idea what the caller was going to say - but once they started he should have shut them down.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,845
Ian1779 said:
It can and will end - it just requires decisive and capable leadership which we have seen in other countries.
Keep your chin up
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Not if the thing has mutated and the vaccine won't work against it......sick of this now
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,846
Ian1779 said:
Funny guy....

He was on with Nick ‘Gammon’ Ferrari. To be fair to Starmer he had no idea what the caller was going to say - but once they started he should have shut them down.
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I haven't heard what happened on that one. I sometimes listen to a bit of Ferrari to see what is going on with that crowd. It's always just having a go at Sadiq Khan and Cycle lanes though. Oh and anti-vax nutters.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,847
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Not if the thing has mutated and the vaccine won't work against it......sick of this now
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I would take that with a pinch of salt, I think Nick was onto something and this was dropped in to take the focus off the shitshow that London has been.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,848
Skybluefaz said:
Didn't know he was on with Jezzer
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You seen who he'd started expelling?
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,849
SBAndy said:
Causes quite the moral dilemma. One of my grandparents is 84 and is really losing it, guidance is that she should be isolating but she’s on her own and for all we know this could be her last Christmas (horrible way to think about it, but having lost one grandparent back in October it makes you realise). Kind of want to spend it with her rather than leave her shacked up alone but equally we will have more than one household at our house anyway so probably for the best we don’t.
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Nobody can blame you whichever decision you make Andy. Everyone’s circumstances are different and individual to them.

It goes without saying but if people are catching up with elderly relatives they can reduce the risks by self isolating as much as possible on run up to visit, meeting outside or well ventilated indoors, even potentially have a test (bit naughty but I would if I was seeing someone high risk). Not foolproof but may all help a little
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,850
clint van damme said:
You seen who he'd started expelling?
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Haven't heard anything about that interview this morning
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,851
Skybluefaz said:
I would take that with a pinch of salt, I think Nick was onto something and this was dropped in to take the focus on the shitshow that London has been.
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Wouldn’t be surprised. Also heard quite a few people travelling down to London for day trips (going to pubs etc) probably not helped

I was hoping Birmingham would sneak back into T2 on Wednesday. Think the London situation makes it less likely as politically would’ve been difficult not to move us down a tier if London was in T2 still.

Shame all round but sounds like the right decision
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,852
Skybluefaz said:
Haven't heard anything about that interview this morning
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This was the other week. Getting rid of the 'wrong kind' of Jews.

The interview with Naomi Wimbourne-Idrissi is with a listen.
 

Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,853
Matt Hancock highlighting the governments own incompetence live on TV by announcing we've spent more money than any other country on dealing with the virus... ...
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,854
Skybluefaz said:
I would take that with a pinch of salt, I think Nick was onto something and this was dropped in to take the focus on the shitshow that London has been.
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It seems very convenient that after the government was criticised for treating London and the south differently to the rest of the company, and the potential for that to result in rising cases, it now turns out its not the packed shops, bars and restaurants we've all seen the pictures of on social media are not the cause of rising cases but a new variant.

What we need to know is what exactly he is referring to. We already know there are lots of different strains. That's how recent studies here have traced the majority of cases we currently have to a strain picked up by Brits holidaying in Spain and elsewhere in Europe over the summer.

Holidaymakers to Spain ‘responsible for majority of UK Covid cases'

Holidaymakers to Spain are responsible for the majority of the UK's coronavirus cases, a new study suggests.
www.standard.co.uk

Covid in Scotland: Second wave reignited by summer holidays

A new report identifies that UK and foreign travel was the trigger for the second wave of the pandemic.
www.bbc.co.uk
Similarly Iceland traced the source of infections coming into the country.

Could Iceland’s forensic-style contact tracing be the key to defeating Covid-19?

The tiny island nation has managed to turn the tide on the disease thanks to comprehensive genetic analysis of the virus
www.telegraph.co.uk
Worth remembering there is already numerous variants out there so the chances of this impacting on the vaccine program are minimal.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 14, 2020
  • #36,855
So if it was to have an effect on the vaccine what would be the next step?
 
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