Sky Blue Pete
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How do you handle it
How do you handle itMy Old Man’s not dissimilar.
But for the older generation you have to realise that months are like years. How many people out there realise that this is probably their last Christmas and they can’t even be with their kids and Grandkids?
Badly.How do you handle it
Dont feel bad, sometimes their is nothing wrong with a bit of tough love.Badly.
I couldn't help it the other week and told him that I was not ready to bury him next to my Mum.
Although I meant it from the bottom of my heart. I felt a right c**t.
Ditto I’m with you in spirit mateBadly.
I couldn't help it the other week and told him that I was not ready to bury him next to my Mum.
Although I meant it from the bottom of my heart. I felt a right c**t.
I suppose when their activities mean you are more dangerous with other vulnerable people like your wife’s parents for instance, it’s a problemThere's something about a certain mentality among some older people. I've got relatives who are taking the train and bus for day trips, strolling into the city centre for a bit of browsing around the shops (when they don't want to buy anything!) and refuse all offers of help when it comes to me getting their groceries etc.
I mean, what do you do at that point? At some stage, however mental I think it is, it is their life to live as they please.
Yeah, I see that, and I have strongly suggested my parents don't go to visit said relatives, especially over Christmas!I suppose when their activities mean you are more dangerous with other vulnerable people like your wife’s parents for instance, it’s a problem
I’m definitely being over protective. Not talking to one of my sisters who is an, everyone is entitled to their opinion, non accepting of science, annoyance. I’ll get over it and stop being a pretentious prick at some point. I did over burge eventuallyYeah, I see that, and I have strongly suggested my parents don't go to visit said relatives, especially over Christmas!
I see the other way with my parents too, mind you. They've been pretty cautious, and I've drummed it into them to be so, but I'm also slightly nervous I'm coming across as over-protective.
Your sister's the other extreme though, and entirely deserves shunning ;-) I do get people wanting to live their lives etc. but not, as you say, if it risks impacting negatively on mine, or people I care about!I’m definitely being over protective. Not talking to one of my sisters who is an, everyone is entitled to their opinion, non accepting of science, annoyance. I’ll get over it and stop being a pretentious prick at some point. I did over burge eventually
Especially when it’s our mum ffsYour sister's the other extreme though, and entirely deserves shunning ;-) I do get people wanting to live their lives etc. but not, as you say, if it risks impacting negatively on mine, or people I care about!
Sorry Pete, could you explain again as I can't seem to find the reference that explains the problem with her .Especially when it’s our mum ffs
My mum's stuck on her own.Yeah, I see that, and I have strongly suggested my parents don't go to visit said relatives, especially over Christmas!
I see the other way with my parents too, mind you. They've been pretty cautious, and I've drummed it into them to be so, but I'm also slightly nervous I'm coming across as over-protective.
See in that instance, I'd say she should go to your sister if at all possible. If either of my parents were by themselves, I might take a different outlook to this whole thing, and them.My mum's stuck on her own.
She's in Stratford which has no cases but in Tier 3. My sister's down in Devon (Tier 2) with her kids. I can't get back because of quarantines etc. So at 79 she could be alone for Christmas & New Year which is stressing the hell out of her.
Common sense and changing the recommendations and rules to mean that life doesn’t need to change too muchSorry Pete, could you explain again as I can't seem to find the reference that explains the problem with her .
WowGermany into a month long lockdown from Wednesday
Agreed that’s why I’m annoyed at sisters not agreeing what’s best between us.See in that instance, I'd say she should go to your sister if at all possible. If either of my parents were by themselves, I might take a different outlook to this whole thing, and them.
Thats a disgrace. They've forced every other area with hug numbers to stay open, which is London getting special treatment??All schools in Greenwich closing due to covid numbers in the borough
Thats a disgrace. They've forced every other area with hug numbers to stay open, which is London getting special treatment??
BTW, i think it's a sensible thing to do.
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London has definitely been playing by a different set of rules to the rest of the country.
My brain is doing that thing now where I can't really process the sense in relaxing measures for Christmas if we need to close schools 2 or 3 days before they break up. Yet I can't imagine anything worse than not seeing family at Christmas. It's fucking tough going.To be fair it is the local council that have ordered it so I guess other areas could close their schools as well if they wanted.
True. They’ll be family members lost earlier than their time won’t there? :-(My brain is doing that thing now where I can't really process the sense in relaxing measures for Christmas if we need to close schools 2 or 3 days before they break up. Yet I can't imagine anything worse than not seeing family at Christmas. It's fucking tough going.
Yes, it's a big mental burden placed on all of our shoulders trying to figure out what to do for the best. I guess strong leadership would help...True. They’ll be family members lost earlier than their time won’t there? :-(
To be fair it is the local council that have ordered it so I guess other areas could close their schools as well if they wanted.
What on earth is going on in the Labour Party? We might as well not have an opposition.All schools in Greenwich closing due to covid numbers in the borough
I guess it's because Starmer knows that Johnson will steam in with the 'He doesn't care about education! He wants to close schools! The unions blah blah'. Ultimately though, if the situation calls for it, Starmer should change his stance and support school closures.What on earth is going on in the Labour Party? We might as well not have an opposition.
Labour run Greenwich Council closing schools saying Public Health England advised them immediate action was needed. Labour mayor, Sadiq Khan, requesting the government close all schools as numbers are rising in London. Closures supported by the unions, National Education Union, NAHT and Association of School and College Leaders all seemingly supporting the closures.
So of course we have Starmer and Reeves doing media rounds saying schools should stay open.
Yes, it's a big mental burden placed on all of our shoulders trying to figure out what to do for the best. I guess strong leadership would help...
Yes, last week I was sure I was going to go and visit my 74 year old dad on the 23rd. Today I realise if I passed it on to him I couldn't forgive myself so I'm not going to risk it. No matter how much I miss him, it ain't worth it.Some people are going to spread COVID around the dinner table at Xmas and then come January some people are going to die. The risk is small but the risk is there and nobody can say they didn't know or didn't understand. As hard as it is the best thing to do is shield the elderly and vulnerable and look forward to spending Xmas 2021 with them. Some people won't get that chance due to their 2020 decisions.
Yes, last week I was sure I was going to go and visit my 74 year old dad on the 23rd. Today I realise if I passed it on to him I couldn't forgive myself so I'm not going to risk it. No matter how much I miss him, it ain't worth it.
It is horrible, I feel for you mate that you have to deal with that situation. I suppose comfort yourself with the fact you are doing your best for her.Causes quite the moral dilemma. One of my grandparents is 84 and is really losing it, guidance is that she should be isolating but she’s on her own and for all we know this could be her last Christmas (horrible way to think about it, but having lost one grandparent back in October it makes you realise). Kind of want to spend it with her rather than leave her shacked up alone but equally we will have more than one household at our house anyway so probably for the best we don’t.
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